test-drb May 2003

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by david_comley＠yahoo.com

I brought home an HP64000 development system today. It has the emulation pods for the 68000 and 8080A processors, an HP-IB cable plus some other odds and ends in the backpack. A peak at the back indicated that it is crammed full of cards and 128K memory. Unfortunately what it doesn't have is either software or manuals, so this is a request to the group for help in that respect. I believe that there was a ton of software originally available for this unit to support various options and development tools, and I think what I am looking for is at least the operating system on floppy so that I can boot it up. Any background material on the 64000 would also be appreciated. I was impressed by the fact that it weighs almost as much as a model 33 Teletype yet it still has a handy reinforced carrying handle on the side for those portable sessions... Regards, Dave The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

21 years, 7 months

AS/400 Operations Navigator

by marvin＠rain.org

I have the CD titled "AS/400 Operations Navigator" using Client Access for Windows 95/NT and the Manual "Client Access for Windows 95/NT - Setup V3R2M0". Since I have absolutely no use for it, $5.00 including US shipping to whoever wants it. ------------------------------------------- ebaY's Security Breach and Coverup http://www.auctionguild.com/generic110.html

21 years, 7 months

HP Amigo command set and HFS disk format

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > You asked me about this a few days ago but I've been busy and > forgot to reply. I have a document called "HP Flexible Disk Drive > Command Set" that I'm pretty sure contains a description of the > Amigo command set. It's an appendix to the HP 9114 disk drive > service manual. It's 36 pages long. I can send you a copy or I'll > send it to Al K. or anyone else that wants to scan it and post it on > the web somewhere. I think Joe sent me a copy of this a while back. Anyway, I fished it out of the pile in the living room and fed it to the scanner, with the result being at <http://www.reanimators.org/tmp/hpfddcs.pdf> (1183KB) for the time being. Joe, are you sure this was in the 9114 service manual? Not the 9121 or 9133? I'm just thinking it wouldn't make much sense being in an HP-IL drive manual. -Frank McConnell

21 years, 7 months

Northstar File Transfer from PC

by marvin＠rain.org

What is the procedure for transfering files to and from a PC using N* DOS? For text from the N* to the PC, no problem, just print it out to the terminal (a DOS machine) and capture it. But what about going the other way, wanting to get information back to the N*? Any information appreciated! ------------------------------------------- ebaY's Security Breach and Coverup http://www.auctionguild.com/generic110.html

21 years, 7 months

AMIGO command set and HFS disk format

by peterbrown10＠hotmail.com

Hi Joe, > It's definitely an Amigo drive then. I've found some other docs that confirm this. >My initial thought was the Amigo wouldn't suppport HFS but after >some >thought >I don't see any reason that it wouldn't. When I catalog the drive with a device that only supports CS80 (my HP 3562A Spectrum analyser) I see only one file (called SYSTEM_SA). When I attach the drive to an HP 9000 332 CPU, it finds the SYSTEM_SA file and then displays something like 'Secondary loader v 56.6' - I assume that this is the part that provides support for HFS. Once the secondary loader has done its stuff the 9000 332 will catalog the drive as usual and displays HFS as the filesystem. <snip> >bytes is not the same as the pair that would be returned by a CS80 >drive. Ignore my comments on this - my mistake. The numbers come from the 'Identify' CS80 command that is used at power on by the system controller to identify devices attached to the HPIB bus. The values 1 and 15 are consistent with the 9134x <snip> >That's odd. Is the drive bad? Most systems identify a 9134 as a 9133 >with >no floppy drive. I should have been more specific - the drive that fails is the 9134x - it fails because it is an amigo drive not a CS80. <snip> Thanks for the info Joe. I need to explain this one more fully! The HP 7907 is a 20.5MB (fixed) + 20.5MB (removable) HPIB controlled disk drive. The removable cartridge is a 9 inch by 9 inch by 1 inch box containing a single 8 inch platter. The drive wieghs about 60 lbs - it comes in the same width box as an HP 9000 300. It looks as though the removable portion of the drive is primarily for backup as separate panel controls are provided for Fixed->Removable and Removable-> fixed. I have one of these - I've just been using it for testing the CS80 / LIF reader software that I've been writing. The HP 7906 is a 5 MB (fixed) + (5 MB) (removable) (I think) MAC controlled HDD. I have one attached to my 5451C Fourier Analyser. It uses a 13037 interface card in the HP 1000 computer plus an external controller marked 13037A. I think that the controller can control up to 8 drives at once. The removable cartridge is around 17 inches in diameter. The drive weighs a lot - it takes two people to lift. My problem is that I have software on 7906 removable cartridges that I need to back-up. If I can find an HPIB controlled version of the 7906 then I may be able to support it with the HPIB reader software. Do you have any more information about the 12745C/D MAC to HPIB converter? - this sounds as though it will do the job! I've down-loaded the command set documentation that Frank has scanned etc. It looks as though it may be what I'm looking for re. amigo command set. Interestingly the docs themselves do not seem to use the word amigo anywhere?? As usual Joe, many thanks for taking the time to look this stuff up! - hopefully we should all end up with an application that will let us back-up and share our age-ing software. Do you have any info on how HFS works? Cheers Peter Brown _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

21 years, 7 months

HP 9000 300 data acquisition card - Infotek AD200

by peterbrown10＠hotmail.com

Hi All, I've just acquired an HP 9000 series R332. In the back of it amongst the usual HPIB / GPIB cards there is a card marked Infotek Systems AD200 Converter, \ Assy 900-13992 rev E - I assume that this is some sort of data acquisition card. Does anyone have details of the card specification / the software required to drive it? Cheers Peter Brown _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

21 years, 7 months

HP Amigo command set and HFS disk format

by peterbrown10＠hotmail.com

Hi Frank, Thanks for scanning and posting this document. I've had a brief read through and it may be what I need - I'll have a deeper look this evening. It looks as though the general form of the commands is very similar to CS80 format but the commands themselves are different - I wonder why HP did this? Cheers Peter Brown _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=186&DI=1059

21 years, 7 months

Fw: Viewfax 258

by bob.c＠dial.pipex.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Clark To: mel(a)pullen.com ; danny(a)spesh.com ; Glyn Philips ; Lindsay Reid Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 3:35 PM Subject: Viewfax 258 My god what a week this has been for finding old friends. First Bill Olivier, then Sue wakes me up this morning (or afternoon possibly) - there's a Lindsay Reid on the phone, would I like to talk to him? What, talk to Lindsay for the first time in 15 years, yawn oh ok then if I must. This three days after we had complained that Lindsay had gone completely unfindable on the web, and was obviously dead. What we didn't do of course was try www.viewfax.com. Lindsay was ringing to ask if anyone remembers or better still knows a man >from the olden pirate radio days called Richard Fox-Davies, aka Dick. This name rings strong bells with me, but I can't remember why. Anyone? (My extensive researches this afternoon reveal that his books for kids are still popular in Western Australia, assuming this is the same guy: http://henrietta.liswa.wa.gov.au:90/search/aFox-Davies/afox+davies/1,3,25,B… xact&FF=afox+davies+dick&1,2 ) This may be a justified cause for an NTK (http://www.ntk.net/) appeal Dan, because... ... the good news is that Lindsay still has Viewfax 258 backed up on 5.25" floppy disks. There's quite a few disks, and we'd have to sort through them somewhat to find the Gnomey bits. But Lindsay is happy to loan his disks to Glyn the man with the archaic hardware, all he needs is his address. Then he'd like his disks back. I figure we could probably blow the lot onto the first quarter inch of a CD for him. So our dream may come true and we'll have both the Gnome on Prestel and the Gnome at Home splurged all over our shiny new web site. Meanwhile, please admire my wonderfully wonky first-stab character set one more time... Bob PS Late-breaking news, Peter Turnbull rediscovered too: http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2003-January/014196.html [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of viewfax7.jpg]

21 years, 7 months

Heathkit EC-1

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > >>>From: "Ethan Dicks" <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> >>> >>>--- "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwightk.elvey(a)amd.com> wrote: >>>> Hi >>>> An interesting side note. The power steering of your >>>> auto is an example of an analog fluid amplifier. >>>> Dwight >>> >>>I don't think _my_ auto (1968 Beetle) is an example of that. :-) > > Do you mean that it doesn't have hydraulic brakes? :-) I expect that the vacuum advance on the distributor would also qualify. > > Joe > Hi Hydraulic brakes don't amplify unless they use a booster. It is true that most drum brakes amplify when stopping while moving forward. Many cars of this time frame may not have a vacuum advance. I know my Fiat Spider doesn't( I think the VW's did though ). Still, most any auto is just full of analog computing elements. Dwight

21 years, 7 months

ClassicCmp Auction Site?

by jss＠subatomix.com

Forgive me if this has already been discussed today; I don't have time at the moment to scan the entire thread. With this latest round of discussion about eBay, the thought crossed my mind that maybe we need our own WWW auction site. It would only contain classic computers and related items, and it could be designed in such a way that would please a large number of list members and colleagues, including those who avoid eBay. Could I hear some opinions on this, please? My WWW-related programming skills -- not my traditional forte -- have seriously improved since the last time we discussed ideas for the CC site. In fact, I've been doing it for money at my workplace for the last few weeks. For several months now, I've been increasingly interested in implementing some of the ideas I've had for ClassicCmp improvements, and if people think it is a good idea, an auction subsite would make for a very interesting project. Don't worry; there are no weblogs up my sleeve. :-) -- Jeffrey Sharp

21 years, 7 months

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test-drb May 2003