The only clue I have is that the AT&T StarLAN system used a star topology. I
suspect this board is part of a local hub and had a single AT&T PC hooked up
to each port.
I don't think the AT&T StarLAN system is true Ethernet but someone else will
have to speak to that.
I do believe the AT&T StarLAN system used RJ45 connectors and was around with
386 systems.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
Hmm... Doesn't think this is a computer, eh? Wonder what it *is* then? It
calculates, and provides a results of those calculations into some kind of
output -- usually on paper. Actually, there's an even older, wooden
computer that provided a visual output. What was it? (Is this OT? Both
units compute, and are over 10 years old...)
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048
Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@cfl.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:37 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: possibly OT: Enigma Cypher machine on e-bay.
Damm! Now there's something that you don't see everyday!
Joe
At 04:45 PM 3/7/03 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't think this is a computer but maybe someone would be interested.
>
>ENIGMA Cypher machine army model:
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2162414185
No, it doesn't qualify as "heavy iron".
Dwight
>From: "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com>
>
>But does it have casters or wheels (outside, not inside)? <GD&R>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dwight K. Elvey [mailto:dwightk.elvey@amd.com]
>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 1:18 PM
>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>Subject: RE: possibly OT: Enigma Cypher machine on e-bay.
>
><snip>
>
>It isn't a general purpose computing machine but it is
>clearly a computing machine.
>Dwight
But does it have casters or wheels (outside, not inside)? <GD&R>
-----Original Message-----
From: Dwight K. Elvey [mailto:dwightk.elvey@amd.com]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 1:18 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: possibly OT: Enigma Cypher machine on e-bay.
<snip>
It isn't a general purpose computing machine but it is
clearly a computing machine.
Dwight
>From: "William Donzelli" <aw288(a)osfn.org>
>
>> I think this one does have the ability to do a loop.
>> The rotating wheels constitutes a three level loop.
>> In fact, it is hard wired to loop.
>> Lets see:
>>
>> a. Changing wheels and order changes stored program
>> b. Hitting different keys causes conditional change of output
>> c. Wheels generate nested loops
>> d. Keyboard and display form I/O
>>
>> It looks like it meets your list.
>
>SSSSTTTTRRREEETTTCCCHHH.......
>
>I should point out the the four way switch I use to turn on the lights in
>my kitchen folllow the basic ideas of the Enigma. Do I live in a a computer?
>
>William Donzelli
>aw288(a)osfn.org
>
No, it doesn't meet either a or c. It is arguable as
to b. I'll give you d.
I don't think I stretched on any of the ones I listed.
Well, maybe a little on b but the rest are quite clear.
It isn't a general purpose computing machine but it is
clearly a computing machine.
Dwight
>There's a fellow here on the east coast that actually let me touch his
>enigma.
Humm... maybe its best to let this one go :-)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>but then the conditional execution is still missing.
Couldn't you consider the result from pressing a button the conditional
excution? It is at the simplest form "if button x is pressed then display
result y".
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Hi
There is a web site that you can locate through
the Bletchie (sp?) Park site that has an on line
enigma machine. The entire thing can be emulated
quickly on most any uP.
Dwight
>From: "Ron Hudson" <rhudson(a)cnonline.net>
>
>On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 10:06 PM, Ron Hudson wrote:
>
>> Well it seems I am from france or somthing...
>>
>> EBAY wont let me see the auction.
>
>Even stranger--- I could see this item from a PC laptop
>at home, but not from my Safari running Mac iBook.
>
><pout> Waaaa! </pout>
>
>Anyway there are emulations of this beast for windows.
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 09:38 PM, Joe wrote:
>>
>>> At 04:48 PM 3/7/03 -0700, ben franchuk wrote:
>>>> Andrew Strouse wrote:
>>>>> I don't think this is a computer but maybe someone would be
>>>>> interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> ENIGMA Cypher machine army model:
>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2162414185
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But you need a PAIR of them :)
>>>
>>> Not if you send messages to yourself!
>>>
>>> Joe :-)
> From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com>
>
> There was a program I used for serial port sharing
> back around 1986 or so. It was a DOS TSR. You'd run
> the "host" TSR on the machine with the port(s) to
> share, and the other machines would run client
> TSR's. I just looked, and I don't seem to have it,
> or anything that seems to jog my memory.
> Unfortunately, I don't recall it's name.
It's part of DOS 4.0 and up...
Interlnk.exe
and
Intersvr.exe
I don't remember exactly how to do it.
One of the two programs goes into the config.sys of
it's computer, and the other is run from a DOS prompt.
I always found Laplink easier for file transfer,
though I used this method to share my desktop floppy
with my laptop that didn't have one.
Regards,
Al
