test-drb February 2003

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by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> >I've been wondering, ever since I got it a few years ago, what my > >PDT-11/150 would go for on eBay. > > Same here... I've got a few with the EIS/FIS chip in them, maybe > that qualifies them for 'L@@K, R@RE' :-) > > Megan Just being a PDT-11/150 qualifies them as 'L@@K, R@RE' :^) Having the EIS/FIS chip should qualify them as 'L@@K, ULTR@ R@RE'. I'm assuming that unlike me, you've also got software that will run on them. The trick would be to come up with software and doc's, and include 'screenshots' of it booting up. Including a terminal would be icing on the cake. I'm guessing such a setup would either go for a frightening amount, or nothing. Zane

21 years, 10 months

Space Shuttle Disaster

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

I believe that the Colombia had recently been totally refurbished stem to stern... New Avionics, new wiring, crew compartment, the works... NASA is trying to upgrade and extend the life of the Shuttle fleet rather than pushing for a replacement. I think it's time an X Program or two were undertaken to create an SSTO replacement for the shuttle. Check out Jerry Pournelle's Site http://www.jerrypournelle.com (and if you like it, please become a member... Let's encourage good work like his..), for some cogent discussions of this issue... All sorts of wacky stuff is flying around about the cause. Someone sent me an e-mail about a terrorist with a laser weapon... Geez! What bugs me about it, beyond the obvious... Is that Islamic Extremests will take this disaster and interpret it to mean that God has spoken against the U.S. and Israel, and that this disaster is an omen. Let's wait and see, but I'm sure many in that crowd were jumping with glee over this, and taking this as a sign that "Allah" was on their side. A sad interpretation of a Sadder event. I'd like to see Burt Rutan on an X Project to develop a replacement for the shuttle. I'd bet if anyone could do it, he could get something cheaper and better developed in a few years easily... And the temporary solution is to build a few more new shuttles and ground the older ones. It's obvious to me, that age and metal stress played some part in this disaster, and it's probably better to ground the current fleet and fly all new machines until replacements can be designed, tested and built... Al

21 years, 10 months

DEC cable sought

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Hi all, Does anyone have one or two DEC BC09J cables they'd be willing to part with? If so, pse contact me off-list.. thanks! --fred

21 years, 10 months

looking for a COMPUTE! issue

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

I'm looking for a COMPUTE! (not Gazette) issue, dating around '84-'85 (I think). I recall the cover clearly; it had Miami Ice on it, and inside was Looking Glass, a useful little Commodore windowing utility. If someone has this magazine and would be willing to part with it, please contact me off list. Thank you! -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- Stand by to launch beef by-product into oscillating ventilation unit ... ---

21 years, 10 months

Looking for a SOL

by awt＠io.com

The first computer that want crazy over was a SOL. It was an S-100 based console that used a DUAL cassette interface. Super. Never could afford one but I did get the original MSA (Microsoft) basic on cassette just in case. I would love to get one now just for nostalgia. If anyone should come across one let me know. awt(a)io.com

21 years, 10 months

Columbia, RoadRunner : please stop !

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

All, Although I, like everyone else, am sad about what has happened, I would like to ask that we go back to ClassiComp related issues here. I've been hitting the >D< key a little too often the past few days. Thanks, Fred

21 years, 10 months

Old Computer Companies

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

Someone mentioned C3 the other day. That translates to Convergent Technologies. I thing Burroughs bought them in the late 80's. I cut my teeth on C3 gear. At age 8 I was an expert at crashing the Coast Guard mini in Saulte Ste. Marie, Michigan. Regards, Jeff -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brian Chase Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:56 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Old Computer Companies On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 vance(a)neurotica.com wrote: > I'm trying to think of all the really old computer companies that are > still in business. GE and Honeywell no longer make computers. DEC and DG > are gone. So there's HP, IBM, Bull... are there any others left from > way-back-when? Oh yeah, there's Siemens. And Amdahl's part of Fujitsu > now. Do they still count? I guess Fujitsu probably counts on its own > merits. Hitachi and Toshiba left the industry recently, after many years. > And then there's Unisys, with their recent turn to weird hybrid systems. > Did I miss anyone? Sure... SGI and Sun. -brian. My linux box is a DataGeneral 486 [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]

21 years, 10 months

Expect to see fewer hard drives.

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Jeffrey S. Worley <Technoid(a)30below.com> wrote: > I bought a Sun Sparcstation 4/330 a few years ago. It's hdd was intact > and after breaking the password file [...] Why did you need to do that? Why couldn't you just boot single-user from the ROM and get a root shell? MS

21 years, 10 months

OT: RoadRunner Blacklisted, Blocking Bounce Messages! (Michael Sokolov)

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

loedman1(a)juno.com wrote: > Please provide a valid address so we may do so. Since I use Classic Computers for my mail and honestly follow the original standards of the Founding Fathers of ARPANET without any obfuscation or other desecration, the only address I have is the valid one, and it appears in the From: header of every message I send. MS

21 years, 10 months

OT: RoadRunner Blacklisted, Blocking Bounce Messages! (Michael Sokolov)

by loedman1＠juno.com

>The class action suit should of course be against the blockers. We really need >a law that guarantees penalties for spamblockers 10 times greater than those >for spammers. If you send spam, you get 1 year in prison. If you assault an >open relay operator, mangle E-mail addresses, or do anything else to desecrate >the Classic Computing tradition, you should get 10 years in prison. If a >spammer gets 5 years in prison, spamblockers must get 50 years. Excuse me ? Perhaps we should all forward all of our spam, porn and otherwise, to you. Please provide a valid address so we may do so. Rich Stephenson California

21 years, 10 months

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test-drb February 2003