> elm isn't a real mail client?
It is.
> But another problem with prepending something to the subject
> line could be the recursing going on...
Most mailing list software knows how to do that.
--f
Yesterday was pretty good and I got the following items:
Amiga 200HD cpu only no KB, mouse, or monitor with it.
KAYPRO 4 in great physical shape not powered up yet.
Tandy 1000 RL Hard Drive cpu only.
Data Book Computer model 486-DBA looks like a it was used as a LINUX box.
4- 486 notebooks; 2-Austin's, a Sharp, and a Compaq. No ac adapters with
them.
Sony Lasermax LDP-1450.
AXIS StorPoint CD-rom server.
Apple 800k external floppy drive.
Bag of TI99/4A game cartridges. Have not looked through them yet.
Some IBM PCjr stuff.
A Convergent Technologies Motorola Information System 6300 tower (miniframe)
with terminal but no KB or special power brick for it.
A TAXAN 12" RGB monitor that works with Apple, IBM, or NEC PC8001 computers.
Several mice and mousepads for that part of the collection.
Found a recycler that is going out of business and he has about 8 HP racks
on wheels (all empty) for only $5 each and tons of more stuff. I will be
making a second trip today I hope before it's all trashed.
Since there appears to be interest on the list....
Perhaps Eric and I (and any other interested parties) should get together
and create a document like "So, you want to run HP TSB?". We could get
definitive answers to exactly what pieces/parts are required, put in some
comparisons between the different versions, etc. Kind of a road map to help
people get these systems running. Help them decide which version to try for,
etc. I know I would have done just about anything for such a document when I
got started... and had to learn along the way little things like F series
can't run access, IOP firmware is only needed for access, E will only use
7900 or 2883 drives, etc. Stuff like that.
WHICH brings me to the next point. HP/TSB had a rather cute RJE facility,
where you could create programs for ... ummm what was it... I think a CDC or
an IBM RJE device were the two supported.. and submit jobs to them and get
the results back, either cards or printouts, etc. There was also some
capability in this add-on for HP2000 to HP2000 communication. So if someone
else gets an HP2000 system up, it would be rather cool to send jobs back and
forth, tunneled across the net someway perhaps. Or, is there an IBM RJE I
can dial and submit jobs to from my HP2000? Most kewl :)
Jay West
Please god take me now I am a happy camper :)
I'm posting this only because a few of the highly sought-after (by me)
HP2100 systems have become available. Geoff has posted that he has one, and
there is the nice one on ebay. I want to let folks know that I have made a
deal to get the 2100 cpu I have been looking for along with some choice
peripherals from Bill McDermith, so count me out of the running for Geoff's
system and the one on ebay (and thanks for that sentiment Sellam!).
My undying thanks to Bill! With what he is bringing, I would expect to
finally have HP2000/Access TSB up and running again in fairly short order!
So, since Bill will be bringing the system from his place, I would like to
solicit volunteers from the list to ride motorcycles alongside his vehicle
and carry a weapon, something of at least 7.62x54 caliber. Your job will be
to shoot on sight anyone who approaches the vehicle with that crazed "I like
old HP hardware" look in their eyes. When volunteering for escort duty, you
must state the caliber of weapon you will be carrying, the range of states
you're willing to escort through, and sign an affidavit that you have no
interest in old HP hardware. I will personally escort him the last 100
miles, mosin-nagant in hand *GRIN*.
On a more serious note - I personally think the system on Ebay would be a
perfect catch for any HP enthusiasts. With the right mux card, it would be a
great setup to run HP2000/E, nothing else required. Next to 2000/Access
which requires the most elaborate hardware, 2000E is the best of the TSB
systems I believe, and only requires one CPU, no IOP firmware, and no 1/2
tape drive. Of course, I think he's asking way too much for it, unless it
can be verified to be in perfect working order - then, maybe $600 isn't SO
bad. Just keep in mind that the drive on it is a 7900A, which has no
automatic head locking mechanism. The heads extend quite easily, so just a
few bumps and you'll be looking for new heads and a new fixed lower platter.
More if it was actually powered up in that condition.
Think I'm going to go tip a brew in honor of Bill McDermith!
Thanks all!
Jay West
>From: "Alex Welti" <lxwelti(a)comcast.net>
>
>I have been handed down a room full of electronics - my
>brother-in-law's father passed away - and I am the nearest relative who
>has a career in electronics, so... I am spending my evenings going
>through and identifing parts, most of which I am familiar with and have
>datasheets on. However, I can't find anything on these i C8702A. A
>web search brought me to your posting. I am hoping you have a datasheet
>or know where I should go to find one.
>
>Thanks,
>Alex
>
Hi Alex
8702A is mostly the same as a 1702A and can be programmed
with any programmer that supports 1702A. The only difference
is that I know of was that the threshold for data was
a slightly different voltage. The 8702A was designed to
tie directly to a 8080 or 8085 without additional buffering.
Otherwise, the 1702A spec will work. If y9ou want the
exact levels, I can look it up.
Most current programmers do not support the 1702A's. You'll
need to find an old programmer someplace.
Dwight
UPS has already come by and they agreed
to process a claim. My options are to get
my money back and give them the machine
or to get it fixed and they pay for the
repairs or replacement -- up to my costs.
I don't think replacement is very possible.
The UPS guy suggested that I go to circuit city or
Best Buy and buy the replacement parts....
Uhhhhh.....
Dave Chu
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:03:22 -0600
From: Jeffrey Sharp <jss(a)subatomix.com>
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Request for help with a PDP 11/73
Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, chu(a)verizon.net wrote:
> I just bought a PDP 11/73, but unfortunately UPS dropped it on the way.
My suggestion would be to attempt an insurance claim. All UPS shipments are
insured for at least $100 automatically. Hopefully you had more on this...
--
Jeffrey Sharp
--__--__--
You may have run out of interrupts for the CF card -- it requires two, one
for the drive interface and one for the card, IIRC. On a laptop I had at
work, I had to disable the modem (which I seldom used) in order to free up a
second interrupt so I could read PCMCIA flash RAM cards that I used in my HP
95LX palmtop.
-----Original Message-----
From: gil smith [mailto:gil@vauxelectronics.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:28 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: OT: Compact Flash (CF) cards
<snip>
I got a couple of Compact Flash (CF) cards to play with, and I also got a
CF-PCMCIA adapter to try the cards in my laptop. Unfortunately, I cannot
get Win-frickin-98 to see the card.
<snip>
Does anyone remember what was required to convert an IBM Selectric
Typewriter to a computer printer? I seem to recall a kit of some sort
was available, but my memory is
*really* hazy about that.
>>But DEC as a company is long gone. I am *well* aware of what happened
>>with the DEC -> Compaq -> HP thing.
>
>I don't know. A friend of mine still has his DEC e-mail address.
>
>That doesn't mean anything... up until I was layed off from HP, my
>DEC email address (@zk3.dec.com) still worked, though that domain
>is scheduled to go away at some point. They've been working site
>by site to remove the old dec stuff and replace it with @hp.com.
That's true. However, as long as a computer company's domain exists, as
long as it has a presence on the net, the company still exists in some
little way.
alan
On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, chu(a)verizon.net wrote:
> UPS has already come by and they agreed to process a claim. My options are
> to get my money back and give them the machine or to get it fixed and they
> pay for the repairs or replacement -- up to my costs.
Personally? If it's borken enough, I'd give 'em the machine and take the
dough. /73s are common enough that another will come along within a year,
probably sooner.
--
Jeffrey Sharp
