test-drb February 2003

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by rhahm＠nycap.rr.com

Hi, I am the proud new owner of an HP 85. Printer belts a little ratty but works fine. However when I attempted to Rew/Load/Cat any of the tapes I received with it I got a stall error. I cleaned the capstan which is intact, and did not fall apart, as I understand they tend to do. The tape motor spins fine when I pressed the tape sensor button inside and hit Rew. Finally after a bunch of attempts the tapes began to spin and I could perform the Load, Cat and Ctape operations. I still seem to get fairly frequent stall errors however. Do you think I need to replace the capstan? Can you get them (or the printer belts)anywhere, or should I use the silicon aquarium tube method mentioned in the archives? Any other thoughts appreciated. Eventually hope to hook it up to a floopy drive but need to find a mass storage rom. Also do you know of any good resources on the web for the 80 series as I haven't found a whole lot. Thanks, RH

21 years, 9 months

6502 fans - the SBC-2 is about to have another run - order boards now!

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

(Whoops... let's try that again with the editing *finished* this time... For those who haven't been to http://65c02.tripod.com/ , the SBC-2 is a single-board 6502 with the following onboard: o 1 MHz 65c02 o 32K of static RAM o 32k of EEPROM o 2 x 65C22 Versatile Interface Adapters (VIA) o 1 x 65C51 Asynchronous Interface Adapter. o Eight 16-byte address blocks decoded for I/O (3 used onboard) This will be the second run of boards. At the moment, Daryl has ten orders. The deadline is 15-Feb. Picture at http://65c02.tripod.com/sbc2.jpg Current cost breakdown is: (from Daryl's announcement) $26.20 per board $4-6 shipping US $4-14 shipping outside US $2 for the serial cable (The serial cable is a 10-pin IDC<->DE9M, like the kind you find on Socket3 and Socket7 PeeCee motherboards). No guarantees that more orders will hit a new price point, so if you have an interest in a compact CMOS 6502 SBC, write Daryl: 65c02(a)softcom.net Do it soon. Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with the SBC-2 except as a potential customer. -ethan

21 years, 9 months

OT/Admin: tags

by zmerch＠30below.com

Rumor has it that Fred N. van Kempen may have mentioned these words: >Although this has come up a few times already, I am going to bring it >up again. Come kick my butt if you don't like it :) Awrighty -- I got my Size 9.5(US) Lacrosse Icemans on right now... ;-) <thud> Wham. Wham. Wham. Wham. Wham. -- Ascii representation of the sound of a dead horse getting beaten once again... :-( >Given the volume of the list, and the many off-topic (lets not discuss >what is and is not on-topic here) talk, I would like to propose [again] >that we do like other lists do: insert a tag [cctalk] in the Subject: >line of the postings, so it's easy to distinguis the postings from >other, perhaps more pressing e-mail. Not just no... *Hell no*... >Selecting/filtering based on sender address doesn't work well for all >clients, and depends on the ability to use processing rules in the >first place. Then filter on the headers! It's not that hard... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Received: from ted.kwcorp.com (imail.kwcorp.com [209.83.143.147] (may be forged)) by huey.classiccmp.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h14Iq2m50008 for <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:52:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jwest(a)classiccmp.org) Received: from jwest [172.16.51.3] by imail.kwcorp.com (SMTPD32-7.12) id AB5BD990224; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 12:50:03 -0600 Message-ID: <005301c2cc7e$32386ee0$033310ac(a)kwcorp.com> X-BeenThere: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Id: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk.classiccmp.org> List-Post: <mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> List-Help: <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=subscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= These are all unique headers to this list. Any MUA worth its salt can filter on any one of these... even some not worth it, like LookOut Hexpress... >As said, most lists out there already use this technique, it's been >accepted more or less as a standard, so can we *please* use something >like this ? Accepted by whom? All but one of the lists I'm on *don't do this* (not to mention the ones I admin) and the one that did I disliked, and unsubbed as soon as a better list was available... And this is a "standard" just like HTML email is currently a "standard" - it's not even compatible with itself, and in all, it's just a plain bad idea... IMH-But-SysAdmin-Based-O... >I don't want to start Yet Another Discussion, a mere vote would do, as >we're all techies who know what this is about. That sounds like the beginning of a 2-hour-pissing-match I had with my father-in-law a *long* time ago... "I'm not saying this because you don't want to become an auctioneer..." In all fairness, if it were a *user configurable* option, I wouldn't give a whit, so long as I could turn it off... otherwise, you know my vote... but how many times do we have to vote on this, anyway??? Prost, "Merch" -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers zmerch(a)30below.com What do you do when Life gives you lemons, and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????

21 years, 9 months

Columbia

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I do feel for the astronaut's families, and in almost equal measure for the >future of humanity in space. We have *got* to find a better way of getting >in and out of the gravity well. As sick as it seems... these kind of accidents are exactly what brings about the safer ways of doing things. Nearly all safety measures we as society have for everything can be traced back to someone (or many someones) being injured or killed. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 9 months

I saw you post 12-17-02 about Intel 1602

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi One should note that the programming of the A parts is different than the non-A parts. The manual shown has the specs for the non-A parts ( these are really rare ). Most are either 1708A, 8708A or 4708A parts that are found now days. Signal wise, I believe that the non-A and A parts are similar. They made very few of the non-A parts. Dwight >From: "Vettore Massimo MARPD EDP" <massimo.vettore(a)zf.com> > >You could find information on Intel 8702A at the IMSAI web site >http://www.imsai.net/support/support.htm >look at Intel 8080 Microcomputer Systems User's Manual part 2 >or straight >http://www.imsai.net/support/device_specs/Intel8080Manual-2.pdf >go to page 56 > >Regards >Max > >----- Original Message ----- >Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 00:51:50 -0600 >From: Alex Welti <lxwelti(a)comcast.net> >Subject: I saw you post 12-17-02 about Intel 1602 >To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > >>I have been handed down a room full of electronics - my >>brother-in-law's father passed away - and I am the nearest relative who >>has a career in electronics, so... I am spending my evenings going >>through and identifing parts, most of which I am familiar with and have >>datasheets on. However, I can't find anything on these i C8702A. A >>web search brought me to your posting. I am hoping you have a datasheet >>or know where I should go to find one. >> >>Thanks, >>Alex

21 years, 9 months

Things FS (dec, ncd, sun, chips), and Info requested

by pat＠purdueriots.com

First, the question. Look for "SELLING" below for what I have 'for sale'. I've managed to pick up a TECMAR, Inc. "LAB TENDER COMP" card for the IBM PC (8bit ISA interface) but I don't have any docs on it. There's a total of 5 34pin headers on the card, a bunch of 7400 seris logic, an AM9513, AM8255A-5, 5xTL084CJ, 4xHEF4051BP chips, and 3x8switch dip-switches. Does anyone know what this is and/or have software/docs for it? SELLING + Digital SC008-AB, one with an "A" and one with a "B" on it, has many (maybe 20) TNC Jacks monted on it, some with 'terminators' on it. Does anyone know what this is? I'm intrigued by it. $5 each + shipping + Digital M8210 - 32kW (72bit words) MOS memory for a VAX-11/780. It's still sealed in an anti-static bag, so I assume it's in excellent condition. $5 + shipping + NCD 19c Xterminal, no cables. Uses a sync-on-green monitor, does color, has AUI/10Base2 network connectors, uses standard PS/2 style keyboard and a 9pin serial (pc-like) mouse. ** Based off of Motorola 88100 processor ** $10 + shipping + 4 x Sun SparcStation 5, 64MB RAM, CG6 framebuffer, 2GB Seagate ST32550WC hard drive. These are working, but don't have an OS installed for licensing reasons. I can install Debian Linux (base install) on them if interested (for free!). $15 each + shipping, also have some parts (lots of CG6's), email if interested. + 6 x Sun SparcStation 5 power supplies (PN 300-1215-02): ratings are +5V @ 25A, +12V @ 2.3A(Max 4A), -12V @ 0.25A max continuous 150.2W, max output <15sec 174.2W $5 each + shipping + Not really classic, but I've got a lot of RJ45->DE9-F cisco console cables, and 48VDC, 0.3A table-top 'wall wart' power supplies. I figured that they might be of some use to list readers, and wanted to do this before they go onto eBay. $5 for one + shipping, or make me an offer for >1. + VME Boards - have socketed chips that are re-usable: PE/IO: 1 x MC68881RC15A - math coprocessor 1 x MC68901P 2 x MC68230P10 - 68k 'parallel port' chip 1 x PAL16R4CN -\ 1 x PAL14L4NC --+- does anyone know if they're erasable? 1 x PAL16R6NC -/ 2 x D8293 --\ 1 x P8291A ---+-- Intel GPIB chips parallel ports: 2 x MC68230P10 n x 74LS00 series logic IC's net interface: 2 x MC68230P10 n x 74LS00 series logic IC's DMA interface: n x 74LS00 series logic IC's 68010 board: 1 x MC68010L10 4 x KM6264L-15 8k x 8 150ns SRAM 4 x M5L2764 8k x 8 EPROM 1 x 5.0688MHz oscillator 68000 board: mostly same as the 68010 board, except with MC68000P8 instead I also have a couple of prototyping (wire-wrap) VME boards. You can see everything I have at http://purdueriots.com/mvme/ including (fuzzy) pictures of the boards. I'd like to get $5 per board + shipping to recuperate my costs. I can do cheaper for large quantites. ** The CPU boards have custom-developed console 'debuggers' that use the RS-232 port on the CPU card as a console. They *require* that a PE/IO board be connected to the VME bus in order to 'initialize'. You could, of course get around this by replacing the ROMs. If (when) I get multiple offers, I'll try to choose fairly who gets the stuff, or divide it up if there's multiple people interested Thanks for listening! Pat Lafayette, IN, USA 47904 -- Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS Information Technology at Purdue Research Computing and Storage http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu

21 years, 9 months

MicroVAX 3800 Power Cable

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 6, 0:53, Tony Duell wrote: > I've had far too many problems with the normal moulded cables -- things > like marginally-rated cable (certainly not 6A), earth not properly > connected, live/neutral reversed, no strain relief, and so on that I now > refuse to use them (and am grdually replacing all the ones here). I've rarely had any problem, but then I'm generally reusing cables sthat have been tested, and tend not to exceed the ratings. > > The second version is a little larger, has the pins at right angles to > > the pins in the 10A version, and is rated 16A. > > If that's the one I think it is, it doesn't have 2 of the corners cut off > -- the connector is rectangular with rounded corners (all 4 the same). Yes, I should have mentined that. > What is the connector like the normal 'kettle plug' with round pins? I've > only ever seen it in the chassis socket/cable plug configuration. Dunno -- that might be one of the Bulgin range? Or do you mean one in which the housing also looks a bit like three cylinders welded together, instead of a rectangular block with corners cut off? That's also an IEC connector, rated 2.5A. I've seen a couple of laptop power suplies with those. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 9 months

Rainbow Enthusiasts

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

For those who have the Rainbow bug... Jeff Armstrong is putting his Rainbow site up again. The URL is http://www.classiccmp.org/rainbow Right now there is just an annoucement page, the real content should be there sometime saturday Enjoy! Jay West

21 years, 9 months

Reply to: OT: PowerBook G3 parts

by nerdware＠ctgonline.org

Yep. Go to www.powerbookguy.com and browse his site. I bought several things from him when I was refurbishing the Wallstreet I was given, and he was very friendly and helpful. Paul ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS: Hello, I just got a bronze keyboard (Lombard) G3 powerbook, sans cdrom drive, battery, and AC adapter. Does anyone have parts for this machine or know of a good source to get them from? - Dan Wright (dtwright(a)uiuc.edu) (http://www.uiuc.edu/~dtwright) -] ------------------------------ [-] -------------------------------- [- ``Weave a circle round him thrice, / And close your eyes with holy dread, For he on honeydew hath fed, / and drunk the milk of Paradise.'' Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Kubla Khan

21 years, 9 months

Strainge VAXserver 2000 card?

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

All, A strange find today, in the pile of stuff-to-figure-out. See attached pictures. Its one of those little option cards that fit in the VS2000's "pizzabox" expansion unit. I have two of these machines, both have the box. One of the machines is a VAXserver 2000 (!), and that one had this card. One single flatcable going to the machine's mainboard (connector on the side of the mainboard, above the power supply) and it has the usual DEC 3-row connector on the outside faceplate. What's this? Serial line expander of some sort? The X.25 thing I heard about? Larger pictures available at 1600x1280 and 1280x1024. Cheers, Fred [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of VS2000-OPT-1_SM.JPG] [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of VS2000-OPT-2_SM.JPG]

21 years, 9 months

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test-drb February 2003