test-drb February 2003

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by melamy＠earthlink.net

Hi, I just found this list and wanted to see who else might be interested in ISIS-II. I am in the process of restoring a MDS-220 machine and I have all the old software from my MDS days back in the 70s and 80s (OS, ICE, assmeblers, etc, etc, etc. I also have iPDS software and machines if anyone is interested. I also had disassembled and modified ISIS-II to run on a Northstar Horizon system I had back then. If anyone is interested in running ISIS on a different machine, I will have source code available once I get my MDS up and running. Best regards, Steve Thatcher

21 years, 8 months

Apple IIe / Ddial update

by rick＠netadel.com

Some kind soul left a disk II controller card and a 80 col/64k card on the shelf where all the IIe's are at Weirdstuff. I picked up a platinum IIe, plain old second gen ][e, a pair of disk drives, the cards, and a mono monitor for 25.00. I believe that to be more than reasonable. Now.. I popped in the SS cards I got from Sellam (thanks!), and the disk with Ddial, and loaded it up. Bummer for me is the ddial was the first version that does not support the serial card linking .. Has anyone got a later version of Diversi-Dial? I'd even pay cash for it :) Not too much though, my wife is already irked at the Apple "monstrosity" that "seems to have grown by itself"

21 years, 8 months

Emulated Peripherals

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

I was sort of shocked to see snide remarks directed at the guy who posted a (well, blatantly commercial -- but let's pass that by for now) message about his company's legacy emulation products. First, most people who are still using classic/legacy hardware in their business aren't doing it because they think it's fun, or cool -- they're trapped, and a bit foolish. Given the expense, limited support, and general unreliability of the stuff, it's hard enough to justify using even the CPUs for mission critical operations, but absolutely senseless to keep using classic storage devices when they can be using modern, available, interchangeable, reliable replacements. Their goals are different than ours. Our is to play with the stuff for the enjoymment of it, to preserve it, to teach people about it. Most businesses have no -- um, business -- letting these motives dominate their need for security and stability. Second, it's pretty damned presumptuous to assume that these folks have any less appreciation for the old technology than we do. They're keeping this stuff going, keeping it at work, and getting paid a fair price for it. Bully for them. Third, does it make sense to offend the people who are first in line to help find new homes for classic gear when it eventually gets completely decommissioned? Brian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _| _| _| Brian Knittel _| _| _| Quarterbyte Systems, Inc. _| _| _| Tel: 1-510-559-7930 _| _| _| Fax: 1-510-525-6889 _| _| _| Email: brian(a)quarterbyte.com _| _| _| http://www.quarterbyte.com

21 years, 8 months

dg computer

by tclough＠indy.net

my first computer was a digital group.had a selectable bios so you could use a 6502 or 6800 processor.still have it in the basement somewhere along with a heathkit h89,a swtp 6800, a pdp11-23 running a pair of RL-02's, a vax 11-73, 9 track 1/2 inch tape drives and a winchester.oh yeah i foregot about the apple lisa.Ah the memories, usually defined in k bytes.still have the old teletype, and motorola exercisors and the 12 inch b/w monitor i converted from an old tv.industrial monitors cost as much as a new car then.i remember adding a carrige return lever to my teletype back in the 70's. took all weekend to get all the levers remounted.anyway nice to see there are still enthusiasts around who still remember the roots of the technology.bye --- TONY CLOUGH--- tclough(a)indy.net--- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.

21 years, 8 months

[possibly OT]: 80386 I/O card jumper settings

by philpem＠dsl.pipex.com

Hi all, Well, this is just about covered by the "10-year rule", so here goes: I've been given an old 40MHz 386DX motherboard with a separate I/O card. Ordinarily, this would not be a problem, except the previous owner has disabled the COM (RS232) ports on the card and has lost the jumper settings. Looking at the component side of the board with the mounting bracket to the right, the card has an IDE connector marked "JP1" on the left hand side, a floppy disk connector (JP9) on the top, a Game Port connector (JP10) and an RS232 connector near the bracket. There are four banks of jumpers - one consisting of JP2, JP3 and JP4; another labelled "JP6" (bank of 6 jumpers, three pins); another labelled "JP7" (bank of 6 jumpers, three pins) and finally one labelled JP8, a bank of 8 jumpers with only three jumper caps. The board has a holographic sticker (holographic text is "Polaproof", "Wugo" is printed on the label in blue ink) on the solder side. The controller chip is a Winbond W83757F, complete with a few MC1488/1489 linedrivers, some LS244s and LS245s and an NE556 Dual Timer. Has anyone come across one of these boards before or, better yet, has jumper settings for it? Thanks. -- Phil. philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/

21 years, 8 months

dg computers

by tclough＠indy.net

P.S. my DG comp didn't have a power meter. --- TONY CLOUGH--- tclough(a)indy.net--- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.

21 years, 8 months

FA: Dec Dgital PDP8/a Vintage 1976 Era PDP8 / A on eBay

by stuart＠stuartsjohnsonfamily.net

I know that some of the folks on the list (including myself) enjoy old DEC equipment and when I saw this on eBay I thought that some of the members here might be interested in it. I'm not affiliated with the seller or this auction at all. Dec Dgital PDP8/a Vintage 1976 Era PDP8 / A , Item #3401953610, URL: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3401953610&category=1247 The opening price is $250 US. I had not seen a picture of a PDP-8 /A before. Good Luck! Stuart Johnson

21 years, 8 months

Digital RK06/07 field tester

by mongomay＠worldnet.att.net

I cannot find a manual for this unit and was wandering if anyone might have a use for it. WIthout a manual I cannot drive a current use for it myself. It is in great shape. THanks JIm may mongomay(a)att.net

21 years, 8 months

Recent Activities (11/34)

by jss＠subatomix.com

This weekend I decided to start the process of building and making work my PDP-11/34 (upgraded to 34a). Most of my CC activity will have to occur on the weekends, because my job is quickly ballooning to nearly fill up each day. Not that I mind; my job is fun. Now before you can get that "I told you so" off your lips, I will have you know that I *still* have more time than when in college for playing with my toys. Weekends are better than nothing. The first thing was to get access to the machine. Ouch, but success. Next, I made an inventory list of all the cards in the machine. I'll paste it at the bottom of this mail. Next, I downloaded and started reading some manuals, including 11/34 UG, BA11-K UG, BA11-K FMPS. There are a lot of pages there, and I want to read them before doing too much more, so I'll print them out and take them to work for some lunchtime entertainment. Another thing I decided was that I needed to mount this thing in a rack before I do too much more with it. Mainly, I need to get to the underside easily. I tried to harvest some rails from the rusty 11/70 carcass in the garage. After some work, I was able to get the BA11-K in the carcass to slide out, but it was too stuck to get off of its rails. I couldn't tilt it up, either, because one of the releases wouldn't budge. I decided to take the entire thing off, rails and all, and remove the rails later. I also decided to get a friend to help, just in case. Unfortunately, my friend is sick this weekend, so I couldn't do much more. I did fire up the compressor and blow air into the machine and into the LA120 I have nearby. I think I'll play with the LA120 a little and see what condition it is in. Next weekend, I hope to get the 11/34 mounted in the H960 rack, read the manuals, and document jumper settings on the various boards. PDP-11/34a CARD LIST ==================== AAAAAAAAAAA BBBBBBBBBBB CCCCCCCCCCC DDDDDDDDDDD EEEEEEEEEEE FFFFFFFFFFF 09 M9202------------------ G727A------ == ||||||||||||||||||||||| 11 ----------------------- G727A------ 12 M7850------------------ G727A------ 17 G727A------ == ||||||||||||||||||||||| M8265 KD11-EA data paths module (replaces M7265) (11/34A) M8266 KD11-EA control module (replaces M7266) (11/34A) M7254 RK11-D RK05 status control module M7255 RK11-D RK05 disk control module M7256 RK11-D RK05 registers module M7257 RK11-D RK05 bus control module M7819 DZ11-A 8-line async EIA mux, 50-96K, modem control M7847-CD MS11-FP 8-Kword 18-bit MOS RAM M7847-xJ (7) MS11-JP 16-Kword 18-bit MOS RAM M7850 (2) MM11-CP parity board for G651, MS11-EP/FP/HP/JP M7856 (2) DL11-W RS-232 SLU & realtime clock option M7859 KY11-LB console interface; programmer's console (11/34a) G727A (4) Grant continuity card M920 UNIBUS connector M9202 UNIBUS connector, longer with 2' cable M9302 UNIBUS terminator, far end (SU) M9312 UNIBUS terminator, near end w/ 5 bootstrap ROM sockets -- Jeffrey Sharp

21 years, 8 months

Sierra Adventure Games

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

I downloaded them fine, and they even work on my W2K system. However, they take control of the video, and swing it to CGA/VGA. I need to reboot to restore my video after playing KQ1. Note, however, that the add-on text and music packs also work great. Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of Chad > Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 12:11 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Sierra Adventure Games > > > Ed Chapel wrote: > > > >> Remember the early Kings Quest series of adventure games? > >> KQ1 has been remade for VGA graphics by a group called Tierra > >> Entertainment. > >> They are doing a terrific job of rebuilding the games. Same great > >> gameplay. > >> The remade version is a free download and works fine in Windows. > >> > >> KQ1 site: http://www.qknowledge.net/royalquest/KQ1index.htm > >> Tierra main site: http://www.qknowledge.net/royalquest/index.html > >> > >> Ed > >> Vancouver, WA > > I tried downloading it but got errors when clicking on cetain links on > the web site, including the download page. > > Chad Fernandez > Mcihigan, USA [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef]

21 years, 8 months

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test-drb February 2003