test-drb November 2003

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by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 7, 19:09, vance(a)neurotica.com wrote: > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 owen(a)bardstown.com wrote: > > > I just bought a rad Indy from EBay. It seems to start up fine, as shown > > by the rockin' startup music! However... I can't get video... I have a > > 13w3 --> VGA adapter that was supposed to work with it. The light on > > the Indy goes green but my NEC Multisync monitor stays red. I tried the > > adapter on my IBM POWERstation and saw the NEC monitor turn amber. Any > > thoughts? > > Sun Adapter != IBM Adapter != SGI Adapter > > If you have a Sun Adapter, it will not work on your SGI, and it will not > work on your RS/6000. Indeed, though it may be worth mentioning that the Indy also provides sync-on-green, and if you have a monitor which also supports sync-on-green, you might get it to work that way. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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SGI Indy 13w3 question

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 7, 16:42, Eric J. Korpela wrote: > > > Sun Adapter != IBM Adapter != SGI Adapter > > That's weird because my Sun adapter definitely works on my Indy. Maybe it a > question of what > sync types your monitor supports. Suns use different pins for sync than SGIs (and Suns usually use composite sync, while SGI use separate H and V), and SGIs also use some pins for monitor type sensing. However, quite a lot of Suns and most SGIs also provide sync-on-green, so if the monitor supports that, and the other signals don't cause confusion, it should work. Contrary to popular belief, most SGIs from the Indigo onwards do not require a SOG monitor. Sorry, I don't know what the pinouts are for HPs or IBMs (apart from R,G, and B). If anyone cares to tell me, I'll add the info to my crib sheet: 13W3-SGI ================ pin A1 - Red/R-Gnd pin A2 - Green/G-Gnd pin A3 - Blue/B-Gnd pin 1 - monitor type 3 (ground this on old machines, leave open on Indy etc) pin 2 - monitor type 0 (LSB) pin 3 - Composite Sync pin 4 - H Drive pin 5 - V Drive pin 6 - monitor type 1 pin 7 - monitor type 2 (MSB) pin 8 - digital gnd pin 9 - digital gnd pin 10 - digital gnd or Sync 2 13W3-SUN ================ pin A1 - Red/R-Gnd pin A2 - Green/G-Gnd pin A3 - Blue/B-Gnd pin 1 - n/c pin 2 - n/c pin 3 - sense 2 pin 4 - sense ret pin 5 - Composite Sync pin 6 - n/c pin 7 - n/c pin 8 - sense 1 pin 9 - sense 0 pin 10 - C-Sync ret For Indy, Indigo2: MonID monitor guessed 111 no monitor (defaults to lowest res, lowest refresh) 110 Single Scan 1024x768 60Hz 15" 101 Dual Scan 1280x1024 & 1024x768 60Hz 16" 100 Idem 19" 011 MultiScan 1280x1024 & 1024x768 21" 010 1280x1024, 76Hz, 16" (82 kHz line freq.) 001 DM-20 MultiScan 1280x1024 76Hz 19" or Single Scan Sony 1280x1024 72Hz 000 1280x1024 60Hz only for older hi-End: MonID 111 No monitor 110 Single Scan 1024x768 60Hz 15" 010 MultiScan 16" -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 1 month

SGI Indy 13w3 question

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 7, 20:47, David Holland wrote: > And has the console device NVRAM setting set to the graphics adapter? > (If I remember correctly, you get black screen if its set to serial even > w/ graphics boards in one.) No, you still get something initially. > You might try pulling the graphics adapters out, unplugging the > keyboard, and hooking up a serial console. You don't need to remove the graphics adaptor on an Indy or later machines, and I wouldn't recommend doing so. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 1 month

SGI Indy 13w3 question

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 7, 19:04, Lyle Bickley wrote: > You've got to use a "sync on green" monitor with all 13W3 sgi products. No you don't. You can use separate sync if you connect to the right pins. This is true for Indigo, Indy, and Indigo^2, and probably older ones too. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 1 month

SGI Indy 13w3 question

by owen＠bardstown.com

I just bought a rad Indy from EBay. It seems to start up fine, as shown by the rockin' startup music! However... I can't get video... I have a 13w3 --> VGA adapter that was supposed to work with it. The light on the Indy goes green but my NEC Multisync monitor stays red. I tried the adapter on my IBM POWERstation and saw the NEC monitor turn amber. Any thoughts? -o

21 years, 1 month

PFS:WinWorks

by brianm＠natcfl.com

Did you ever find a converter for PFS:Winworks or maybe a copy of the program itself? I am needing to convert 300+ documents and trying to find a solution. Brian Mahler National Computer Forensics Lab

21 years, 1 month

SGI Indy 13w3 question

by lbickley＠bickleywest.com

You'll have to look at your monitor's documentation. Most high-end monitors are capable of sync-on-green - most inexpensive monitors do not support it. There are adapters that "attempt" to create standard sync signals from the sync-on-green, but I've had mixed results (at best) with them. Your best bet is to pick up a nice sgi monitor (20"). Depending on where you live, you'll find them modest in price and if they are working properly, they have outstanding color, etc. Lyle On Friday 07 November 2003 19:06, you wrote: > Ohboy. How can I tell if my monitor is sync on green? Documentation? Is > there an adapter to change this? > > -o > > > You've got to use a "sync on green" monitor with all 13W3 sgi products. > > Secondly, make sure that the 13W3 adapter is for sgi and not sun > > (different pinouts for monitor "mode" settings). > > > > Lyle > > > > On Friday 07 November 2003 14:45, owen(a)bardstown.com wrote: > > > I just bought a rad Indy from EBay. It seems to start up fine, as shown > > > by the rockin' startup music! However... I can't get video... I have a > > > 13w3 --> VGA adapter that was supposed to work with it. The light on > > > the Indy goes green but my NEC Multisync monitor stays red. I tried the > > > adapter on my IBM POWERstation and saw the NEC monitor turn amber. Any > > > thoughts? > > > > > > -o > > > > -- > > Lyle Bickley > > Bickley Consulting West Inc. > > Mountain View, CA 94040 > > "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero" -- Lyle Bickley Bickley Consulting West Inc. Mountain View, CA 94040 "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

21 years, 1 month

IMSAI System Available - but don't shoot the messenger

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

I was contacted by someone interested in selling an IMSAI 8080 and related parts. The following are the items available and the prices they are hoping for: IMSAI 8080 Microcomputer $2200 Includes 8080 CPU and Tarbell I/O cards 4K memory cards (16 of them) $ 250 each 64K memory card (1 of them) $ 500 Cromemco Dazzler Graphics cards $ 800 Dual 5 ? inch floppy drive (1) $ 350 8080 micro monitor chip set $ 150 Heath keyboard/monitor (serial) $ 350 I am passing this along in case someone is interested. Please contact Sarah at parkrangersara(a)hotmail.com if you are. Rumor has it that she's already been offered $2,000 for the machine. . . The usual disclaimers apply. I have nothing to do with Sarah, the machine, etc. and I am just passing this along for your information or, at worst, your amusement. Best regards, Erik Klein www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum The Vintage Computer Forum

21 years, 1 month

8008 assembly code sample/Message-ID: <200310300453.h9U4rGrX014223@swift.cs.unc.edu>

by phillipmilks＠juno.com

I have a copy of the original Scelbi 8008 book, which has some short code samples, w/ octal equivalents. I might be able to locate the original 8008 manuals, if you're interested. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

21 years, 1 month

TIL308

by deerose11＠dslextreme.com

Frank, Do you still have any TIL308 BCD Display Driver LED? If you do I would be interested to buy them. Thank you, Dee Rose Orbit Sytsems 949-852-9999 ext 224 949-261-9999 fax

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test-drb November 2003