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HP 2000 BASIC help / TREK73

by micheladam＠theedge.ca

Hi. Nice to know these listings have been found. The game brings back fond memories. The 2000 was the first mini I programmed on, in college. I have read all the replies, and no one has suggested what I am about to suggest, so here it is: In order to do a really good job of sanity checking, it would help if we could see the listings to compare with what has-been/wil l-be typed. People will want to port it to other close version of basic (hp-eloquen ce) or BASICV on the 3000, and a typo is always a problem with languages that dont necessarily declare variables before assigning things to it. So, if you had a way of scanning the listings and making them available on your web site, that would be a boon to everyone. Assuming the listings are in good enough shape to scan. As well, you could then spread to work around! Just my 2 cents worth... Thanks Michel Adam micheladam @theedge.c a ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete Turnbull <pete@dunn ington.u-net. com> Date: Monday, November 10, 2003 4:17 pm Subject: HP 2000 BASIC help / TREK73 > I need some help with some HP 2000 BASIC. I probably last used it > around 1980, and not often even then for somehow the PDP-8s looked > moreattracti ve than the grey HP box in the same room. Yeah, I know > betternow. Luckily, I'm sure some of you can help me out... > > I've been retyping TREK73 >from a fairly poor-quality listing, and it > needs a sanity check. Also I'd like to learn a bit more about what > I'mtyping. This is the original source for the Star Trek program by > William Char and friends, and what I've typed so far is on my Star > Trekweb page at http://www. dunnington.u -net.com/pu blic/startrek / > > I've added some other stuff to that page, too. > > Questions: > > All the lines have two spaces between the line number and the code. > All, that is, except for a few that have an '@' in place of the > secondspac e. Is that significant (does it mean "ignore this" or > something?) or is it just an artifact of a noisy Teletype line? > (The listing > appears to have been made on a Teletype, which needed a new ribbon and > a better platen roller.) > > What does '14 in a PRINT statement, in front of a quoted string, > mean(eg in PRINT '14"SULU")? I wondered if it were something like > PRINTTAB(1 4)"... but there are TAB()s elsewhere. A control character, > perhaps? If cursor or screen control, are they octal or decimal (I'd > guess decimal) and is there a table anywhere? > > What exactly do the first two parameters to the ENTER command do? > Theyalways seem to have three variables (eg ENTER T2,T,X$). > > That'll do for now :-) > > If anyone would like to proofread what I've retyped so far (about half > the total) and check for obvious sillies, please do - especially in > TREK0 around line 740 (cf line 840). Better still, if anyone is > willing to actually try this out, please do! though it won't work very > well with half of it missing. > > -- > Pete Peter Turnbull > Network Manager > University of York >

21 years, 1 month

OMT MFM 5200 disk controller board

by aek＠spies.com

> I have some repair info for the OMTI 5000 series, such as pinouts of the > ASICs, and the like. > > -tony > Useless data for those who care. What Tony actually has are the ASIC specs for the 5000 series, which originally came from me, not just the pinouts. -- > Some time after we had talked to them (and found out about the name), the > sold it all to SMC OMTI was sold to SMS, not SMC. See www.bitsavers.com/pdf/sms Somewhere, I think DTC was connected to all of this as well. I'll have to ask the people I knew who worked at Shugart.

21 years, 1 month

help identifying S100 board

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi This may not even be a s100 board. The height is wrong. Check the power leads carefully before plugging into a s100. It does seem to be a complete single board computer. Dwight >From: "Ian Primus" <ian_primus(a)yahoo.com> > >I recently acquired this board, it appears to be an S100 board, since >it has the 100 pin connector and voltage regulators onboard. Does >anyone know what this is, or what it came from? In the upper right >corner, it says "Dynatech NEWSTAR 1MP481 REV. A (C) 1990" The board has >a Z80, a 27128 EPROM, an 8k static RAM, some 41c256 DRAMS, a Z80 SIO, >some RS-232 line driver pairs (1488/1489), and two 26 pin headers, >which appear to be serial ports. > >Here is a picture I took: >http://24.194.65.231/images/unknownboard.jpg > >It appears to be a complete Z80 computer on a board, so I would imagine >that it would be possible to power it up, and connect a terminal to it, >but I don't know if it would do anything. Any information on what this >could be, or what it might do would be appreciated. > >Thanks! > >Ian Primus >ian_primus(a)yahoo.com > >

21 years, 1 month

HP 2000 BASIC help / TREK73

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

I need some help with some HP 2000 BASIC. I probably last used it around 1980, and not often even then for somehow the PDP-8s looked more attractive than the grey HP box in the same room. Yeah, I know better now. Luckily, I'm sure some of you can help me out... I've been retyping TREK73 from a fairly poor-quality listing, and it needs a sanity check. Also I'd like to learn a bit more about what I'm typing. This is the original source for the Star Trek program by William Char and friends, and what I've typed so far is on my Star Trek web page at http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/startrek/ I've added some other stuff to that page, too. Questions: All the lines have two spaces between the line number and the code. All, that is, except for a few that have an '@' in place of the second space. Is that significant (does it mean "ignore this" or something?) or is it just an artifact of a noisy Teletype line? (The listing appears to have been made on a Teletype, which needed a new ribbon and a better platen roller.) What does '14 in a PRINT statement, in front of a quoted string, mean (eg in PRINT '14"SULU")? I wondered if it were something like PRINT TAB(14)"... but there are TAB()s elsewhere. A control character, perhaps? If cursor or screen control, are they octal or decimal (I'd guess decimal) and is there a table anywhere? What exactly do the first two parameters to the ENTER command do? They always seem to have three variables (eg ENTER T2,T,X$). That'll do for now :-) If anyone would like to proofread what I've retyped so far (about half the total) and check for obvious sillies, please do - especially in TREK0 around line 740 (cf line 840). Better still, if anyone is willing to actually try this out, please do! though it won't work very well with half of it missing. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 1 month

OT almost - Who's a linux/Emacs guru? please contact off list.

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

I hate that my backspace key generates some ugly help menu instead of backspacing can I do anything about it? (running emacs_nox in xterm under X) Linux Slackware 3.0 1995 - Emacs. Thanks..

21 years, 1 month

FA: HP 2116B Computer w/16K Word Core Memory

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2765699545&category=1247> Not mine. (If it was it wouldn't be on E-bay!) Joe

21 years, 1 month

Car boot sales, etc?

by transit＠lerctr.org

Any convenient to Greater London (preferably accessible by public transport)??? Also, what about the continent? I've heard about flea markets in Paris (Clignancourt and Montreuil come to mind): any computery stuff there? Thanks!

21 years, 1 month

HP 2000 BASIC help / TREK73

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 10, 23:53, Eric Smith wrote: > "John K." <john3000(a)cox.net> > > some day I'll get my set of HIB tapes back > [...] > > there were > > many games and programs from HP 2000 ACCESS vers. 1812 on that tape set > > (which dates from Jan. 1984). I'd love to see them run again. > > I've written a package "tsbutils" which contains two programs that are > useful with HP 2000 Access hibernate and dump tapes While they're not immediately useful to me, I've noted that for reference. What I really would like is an HP 2000 (2100?) emulator. I've found Jeff Moffat's but not tried it yet. Is there anything else I should look for? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 1 month

more Press stuff.

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Well, I hope that didn't turn out too bad. The article is actually about market values of Sinclair machines and things like the Black Watch and will be in the Financial Times in a couple of saturdays. I basically spent an hour deriding ebay and emphasising the historical side of collecting for exhibition and educational purposes, not financial. Apparently I'm not the only one he's spoken to that thinks that, though there's also been others who've said stupid things like 'turn up with a non-yellowed zx80 and I'll give you ?400 for it' We both agreed that it was highly unlikely you WOULD get ?400 if you did that. The journalist is speaking to a lot more people and at present he's on the fence between telling people to sell their MK14s now and telling people to hold onto them. Naturally I told him to tell people to give things like that to me :o) The current ebay situation with Zebra ZX81 kits is a good example of how greed can go wrong...... On a sort of unrelated note it's idiot week on ebay again - a battered looking yellowed ZX80 is currently at ?155 despite it only having the bottom sorry looking poly, PSU and manual.....many days left to go, too. Meh. -- adrian/witchy www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(

21 years, 1 month

AVAILABLE: HP 82161A Digital Cassette Drive found

by waltje＠pdp11.nl

Since the person who initially wanted this thing never replied to me, and I now have it here, I guess it's available to anyone who wants it. It looks OK, comes with 4 tapes, and the *US* power supply brick. Not the connecting cable, so it seems. Do me an entertaining offer, or I'll put it up on ePay. --f

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