test-drb January 2003

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by cb＠mythtech.net

> One of my main beefs are the number of sellers in the US >who restrict the volume of bids by refusing to ship to >anywhere outside own their limited vision of the world. >Either thru fear of unknown extra efforts, (which for the >most part are minimal) or even ignoring the "will ship to" >section. I routinely respond to something I'm interested >in with "will you not ship to Canada" and the answer is >almost invariably yes. They simply did the default form. You'll be happy to know, that I check that I will ship to Canada. I've only done a few auctions, but those that I have done, I always say yes to Canada. Not to other places, but that is going to change... I have been limiting my ship to range only because I am new at auctions and want to get a feel for it before I have to start deailing with international shipping. But I've sent enough items to Canada in the past, that I'm comfortable with what's involved with it. > The problems with the commercial shippers like UPS is a >different number, and while it may work well in-country is >a disaster outside. This is my major problem with shipping outside the US (minus canada). I have heard horror stories about UPS and FedEx going to other countries. So when I am counting on using FedEx for delivery, I worry about what is going to be involved with getting the package to the person if they aren't in North America. So my line of thought has been... let me get the auction concept under my belt... then I'll work on the international shipping issues. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 11 months

Y2K/Y10K for V5.03 of RT-11

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

I'm interested in what you propose, but suspect that Y10K would be overkill at this point. I'd like to see design discussion opened up for that... but it may all be moot since it wouldn't be compatible with V5.4, V5.5, V5.6, V5.7... ... and it is the sort of change which would truly affect everything in the system, requiring sources to rebuild the fixes... since no-one but Mentec has rights to the sources, the product of any such change would be strictly illegal, so I am wondering how you are proposing to get around that. Megan

21 years, 11 months

[for sale] IBM 5100 + IBM 5120

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> Is it possible to just put the unzipped files on your web server? I don't > like to download zips. Oh, I do. It goes really well with all the HTML markup that turns up here :-) cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

21 years, 11 months

Dec 3000/300 keyboard/mouse box

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

On Mon, 13 Jan 2003; Steven Nikkel <steven_nikkel(a)ertyu.org> scribbled: > I recovered a couple Dec 3000/300 machines at work, with keyboards > and mice and can't find any of the keyboard/mice break out boxes. > What do they look like? Or where can I find them inexpensively? First of all, a RANT: Why is it that when a company takes a machine out of service, the first thing they do is toss the cables. Over the years I have scrounged a few DECstations only to find that the video cables were nowhere to be found. I also managed to haul home several VXT2000 workstations but only one video cable amongst all of them. $&^%**&%% Anyway. It is not so much a breakout box as it is a (rather long) cable with a molded box on the end of it. The box contains the sockets for the keyboard and mouse. I put together some info a while back and I will just paste it to the end of this. Hope it helps, Mike Thompson P.S. I have to wonder, now that you know what you are looking for, if it might not be worth another search around work. DECstation 5000 keyboard/mouse cable and related info --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- The DECstation 5000 has a 15 pin (male) D connector on the back for keyboard and mouse connections. There is a cable that plugs into the 5000 connector and has a keyboard socket (RJ-11) and a mouse socket (7 pin mini-din) on the other end. The part number for the cable is 17-02640-01. A reader of a previous version of this has confirmed from the manual EK-PELCN-OG for the Dec 3000/300L AXP that the same cable is used on that series of machines. He also confirmed the following pinout information. For a keyboard, use a LK201, LK401, or LK402. For a mouse, use a VSXXX-AA (round hockey puck) or VSXXX-GA (rectangular). CABLE INFO The cable pinout (from the DECstation 5000/240 manual) is: Pin Signal Desc. 1 GND Ground (to keyboard socket) 2 KEY.TX Keyboard transmitted data 3 KEY.RX Keyboard received data 4 +12v Keyboard power 5 GND Ground 6 MSE.RX Mouse received data 7 MSE.TX Mouse transmitted data 8 GND Ground (to mouse socket) 9 GND Ground (to mouse socket) 10 NC 11 NC 12 NC 13 +5v Mouse power 14 -12v Mouse power 15 GND Ground (to mouse socket) I have also verified the above info with a VOM. KEYBOARD INFO As for the keyboard, I had a couple of them open a while back (to clean out the cookie crumbs) and traced them out somewhat. Looking into the end of the plug on the cable coming from the keyboard. |------------| | o o o o | | B R G Y | |___| |___| |____| B - Black - Data from keyboard R - Red - +12v to keyboard G - Green - Ground Y - Yellow - Data to keyboard And looking into the socket on the end of the 17-02640-01 cable: (also applies to the keyboard socket on a terminal such as a VT420) |------------| | o o o o | | Y G R B | |___| |___| |____| Pin Y to pin 3 of the 15 pin D connector on cable 17-02640-01 G to pin 1 ... R to pin 4 ... B to pin 2 ... I do not include pin numbers for the keyboard connector because I have found on-line references to some of this info and in some cases the pin numbers differ. Your mileage may vary. MOUSE INFO As for the mouse, you will find the pinouts below and the signals. Please note that the pin numbers may not be the official DEC numbers. Here again, I have seen on-line references to some of this info and the pin numbers differ. Looking into the plug coming from the mouse: 5 6 7 o o o 4 o === o 1 o o 3 2 1 - -12v 2 - Data to mouse 3 - Ground 4 - Data from mouse 5 - +5v 6 - nc 7 - nc And looking at the socket on a machine or end of the 17-02640-01 cable: 7 6 5 o o o 1 o === o 4 o o 2 3 Pin 1 to pin 14 of the 15 pin D connector on cable 17-02640-01 2 to pin 6 ... 3 to pins 8, 9, & 15 ... 4 to pin 7 ... 5 to pin 13 ... 6 nc 7 nc

21 years, 11 months

Xenix OS for early generation IBM PC

by cpg＠aladdin.de

On 01/14/2003 08:41:05 AM EST Ron Collison wrote: > >Anyone interested? I'm interested. regards, chris

21 years, 11 months

Macro Assembler for early generation PC

by collison＠cnri.reston.va.us

I found the tech ref manual in my collectibles, but will have to look for the software if anyone is interested?

21 years, 11 months

Fwd: Apple mouse needed in Belgium

by ejchapel＠attbi.com

I have a M0100 mouse in good condition. Contact me for if you are still looking. Ed Chapel Vancouver WA USA >From: "Arthur Odekerken" <admin(a)cchasselt.be> >To: <dan(a)decodesystems.com> >Subject: Apple mouse >Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 23:51:07 +0100 > >Hi! > >I am a systems administrator at a cultural center in Belgium. We have 3 >light tables (12 years old) that are steered with a mouse but we only have >one mouse left. It was very hard for me to find a mouse that worked, >because it had to be a female DB9 Serial plug, with at least 7 cables >soldered. Finally I came across the Apple M0100 (Made in the U.S.A. type >590-0320). At your website I found some pictures of the same mouse. My >question now is, do you know where I can find such a mouse, because if I >don't find it, it could cost the centre a lot more money than just the >price of one mouse. > >Thanks! > >Arthur Odekerken

21 years, 11 months

8086/8088 Primer - an intro to the Architecture, System Design, & Programming

by collison＠cnri.reston.va.us

I found a manual in my collectibles, "The 8086/8088 Primer - An Introduction to Their Architecture, System Design, and Programming" Anyone interested?

21 years, 11 months

Clinton Macintosh Repair & Maintenance manual

by collison＠cnri.reston.va.us

Anybody have an interest in this?

21 years, 11 months

Dos V3.2, V3.10, & V2.0 - who was looking for this?

by collison＠cnri.reston.va.us

I found several versions of DOS in my collectibles, incl.: DOS V3.10 on 51/4 floppies with ref manual, user's guide, & applic setup guide DOS V2.0 on 51/4 floppies with ref manual DOS V3.2 users guide [may have the OS on floppies, but would need to determine interest prior to searching] Anyway, there was some traffic a few days ago from someone looking for an early version of DOS on floppies, 51/4 I think So, anyone out there interested?

21 years, 11 months

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test-drb January 2003