test-drb January 2003

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OT and Stupid, was RE: Top Posting, was Re: A plea to classiccmpers

by Charles＠socketcom.com

> if someone needs t [ --------------------- ] hey can scroll down. Having [ What about those that ] You know, I prefer t [ prefer to center post ] the comments. It keeps the arguemnt in a logica [ comments that are off ] [ topic and just plain ] > to unnecessarily s [ stupid! :) ] n in the backside!!!!!! [ --------------------- ]

21 years, 11 months

Fwd: Small VME Backplanes?

by jss＠subatomix.com

Please reply to the original author, not me. ---------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: Ken Seefried <ken(a)seefried.com> Date: Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 12:08:18 PM Subject: Small VME Backplanes? Does anyone know of a source for inexpesive, small VMEBus backplanes? I'm looking for something 1, 2, 3 or 4 slots, preferably 6U, so that I can put VMEBus cards in a case smaller than a 19" rackmount. Cardcage would be optional. Ken ---------- End forwarded message ---------- -- Jeffrey Sharp

21 years, 11 months

Any Cromemco USERS?

by labomb＠rochester.rr.com

Bill, >Something about the 16FDC doesn't play nice with the IMSAI front panel. >You can't deposit or examine memory with it on the bus. Even with the >schematics, I don't see what the problem is. Do you know a solution by >any chance? Assuming that you have verified that the front panel works correctly by removing the 16FDC (and only the 16FDC), then the first thing that I would check is to see if the 16FDC is grounding pin 20 (UNPROT) of the s-100 bus. If it is, a quick glance at the Imsai panel schematic will show that all of the flip-flops and monostable multivibrators associated with the Examine and Deposit functions will be disabled. The 'J' input of the flip-flops need to be high, and the 'CLR' pin on the mono-multis need to be high in order for the these specific panel functions to work. Best regards, Scott

21 years, 11 months

VAX VMS Question

by crl＠rti.org

Thanks for the info! that is basically what I was thinking, but I hadn't forced the port speed and duplex yet. I turned some debugging features on and see exactly what you were talking about ! Thanks Carl -----Original Message----- From: Fred N. van Kempen [mailto:Fred.van.Kempen@microwalt.nl] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 1:47 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Cc: Lindahl, Carl Subject: RE: VAX VMS Question Yes. On the 2950, set the port to 10Mbps, half-duplex, no flow control, no spanning tree: int fastethernet 0/xxx speed 10 duplex half flow none spanning-tree portfast no shutdown or somesuch. The Cisco ASIC's hate the VAX ethernet port, same here on my 4000. Basically, the ether connection is bouncing between between various modes, making it slow and such. --fred

21 years, 11 months

Dear Santa, I would like a VAX

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Ade et al, Gotta cast another vote for the 4000 VLC. If you have room for a laptop and an external CD, you probably have room for this VAX. And if you use it to learn VMS, you can (when you can get an 8800, or whatever) charge on ahead to a very asymmetric VAXCluster. Or use it to NetBoot the 8800, etc. I know a guy in Houston, TX who at last count had a "stack" of those with 24M (max) RAM and hard drives with OVMS installed, and for which he's trying to find good homes. I have not mentioned to him the possibility of transatlantic shipping, but let me know if you are interested. And, if you have a lot more money available: (just came up on comp.sys.dec.micro) http://www.aub.nl/vaxsales/ a 3100-85 for 600 (money units not specified) a 3100-80 for 500 both for 1000. Each includes 3 VT510+keyboard. One includes a CD. - Mark

21 years, 11 months

Ressurecting Mac Plus

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Go to Apple's website and dig down in the downloads section - they've got >(or did have last year) all versions of MacOS from v1 up to 7.5. The >software license normally says that if you own a Mac you can download the >OS. If they haven't got older versions any more I've got 'em all here :) Last I checked, they removed all except for System 6.0.8 and System 7.5.3. The do have updaters for most of the systems, but they are just updates that need the original system to run. Once upon a time their FTP site did have a number of the pre System 7 versions (not all, but a handful of assorted versions). But I don't think they have ever had full installs of anything but System 7.5.3 in the 7.x and up range (and 7.5.3 should REALLY be updated to 7.5.5 as soon as it is installed... .3 has a ton of bugs in it that are fixed in .5). System 7 is when they went to a paid OS model, so they didn't give the stuff away. 6 and under their policy was you should go to your local Apple dealer with blank disks and they will give you the latest OS version (at least that is what they told me when I asked once how to get an update to 6.x) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 11 months

Bernoulli Dual 20Z

by kth＠srv.net

I found a Bernoulli Dual 20Z drive in a thrift shop. Does anyone know anything about it? It has a SCSI interface on it, but I don't even know what capacity of disks it can handle, and where can I find software to drive it. They has some "90" disks there too, which do fit into the drive, but I'd like more info on it than that.

21 years, 11 months

A plea to classiccmpers

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Oh, and why did you include the entire message you're comemnting on here, > rather than the one or 2 lines that were relevant? And why do you top-post? > > -tony I've come to the realization that top-posting is yet another sin that Microsoft needs to answer for! In MS LookOut, it expects you to top-post to replies (I suspect this is yet another MS ploy to waste disk space[1] as I've also observed that people using MS LookOut tend to not know how to trim messages[2]). Zane [1] Just how much Stock does Microsoft and it's employee's have in companies that make Hard Drives? This is the only logical explaination for MS being such a waste of disk space. [2] Please note these observations are not targeted at anyone on this list, as I've made the observations elsewhere.

21 years, 11 months

TF86/TK86

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

John, > I have a lead here on a TF86-BX that I'd like to take up > but while the seller says it is indeed a TF86 (DSSI), the > drive has labels on it that say TK86. > My question is: are these in fact the same thing? > I can't recall hearing of a TQK8x controller, in support > of his claim. Yes, this is a DSSI drive. There is a SCSI version of it, the TZ86, which basically includes the SCSI-to-DSSI board. I have several TF85's of both types... very nice drives. The 86's and 87's are higher capacity- I believe *but am unsure* that the 87 is SCSI-only. --f

21 years, 11 months

BBC Micro - assemblers - info needed

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 23, 8:42, Philip Pemberton wrote: > > Silly question; why don't you use the assembler built into BBC Micro > BASIC? I > > used this for years for many serious programs and never had a problem... > (I > > should be able to remember how to use it still!) > Because I hate having to write a BASIC backend to get the assembler to run, > then there's code relocation issues if I want to make Paged ROM images... > For those things, an assembler is much easier. The "backend" part is hardly onerous, and the ability to do all sorts of tricks makes it a pretty good macroassembler. As for relocation, that's why you use both P% (program counter) and O% (where the code will be assembled). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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