test-drb January 2003

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by avickers＠solutionengineers.com

Having fond memories of using VAXen (specifically, an 8800) back in my 'stoodent' days, and in more recent times too (unknown type @ JP Morgan), and further having seen numerous references to OpenVMS & VAXen on this list, I got to thinking... I'd actually quite like a VAX. Unfortunately, this is probably impossible in the short term - unless I want to buy the MicroVAX 3100 currently on eBay @ a fiver. But that's not a *real* VAX, it's just not big enough... And besides, it hasn't got a CD-ROM, which I will need to load OpenVMS. Anyway, following yet another link posted on this list revealed the PDP-11 (and, coincidentally, VAX) simulator. Nice. So I downloads it, along with MinGW (anyone else think of "minging[1] Windows" immediately, or is it just me?), compile it, and eventually figure out roughly how to get to the basic VAX ">>>" prompt. And here, I'm rather stuck. So, does anyone have any nice'n'easy instructions on how to get the SIMH VAX simulator ready for OpenVMS? I've read both the simulator document & the VAX document, and I'm still well in the dark WRT how to get it up & running... Basically, I've no idea what devices to ATTACH, what or how to configure it, and so forth. Obviously, I'll have to sort out an OpenVMS kit before I can do anything remotely useful, and I'll probably need an extra HDD in the PC (<1gig free now), blah blah. (oh yes, and Hans has found several faults in my websites which I /really/ ought to fix first... - but, well, you know how it goes :) So, can anyone help? TIA! [1] "minging" {v}: "really ugly" (he/she's minging) or quite smelly and rotten (that bin's minging). UK expression (poss. Northern UK only). -- Cheers, Ade. Be where it's at, B-Racing! http://b-racing.com

21 years, 8 months

first photo's

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

The first photo's of my basement have made it to the web. http://vic.dyndns.org/pics/2003-01-25/LG-2003-01-25-032.jpg http://vic.dyndns.org/pics/2003-01-25/LG-2003-01-25-033.jpg These are taken just before the Open Source Weekend Demo. I'm still learning how to use my camera. So my shots will be a bit longer before they see the light of day.

21 years, 9 months

Moving a VAX 6000

by jss＠subatomix.com

I just got a VAX 6000. More details on the system itself will come later. Right now, I need to move it the short distance from its warehouse it my garage. I will probably do this tomorrow. I want to run my logistics plan by the list and see if there are any problems. Basically, my idea is to borrow my parents' utility trailer, throw an old mattress (which I have) in it, lay the VAX on its side on top of the mattress, and tie down. 3.5 miles later, we'll slide the VAX off and push it upright. Repeat the process to get the other cabinet. My only concern ATM is laying the VAX on its side. That won't damage the enclosure, will it? -- Jeffrey Sharp

21 years, 9 months

Data General stuff, Nova 2/10 on ebay

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

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21 years, 9 months

History Channel - The Internet: Behind the Web

by daw＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Just curious... did anybody else watch the History Channel last night, 7:00PM Eastern Time. The Modern Marvels episode was about the creation of the internet. Rather fascinating to me (who learned some things), and kinda neat to put faces to names... Not to mention the pictures of the old, err, classic computers and terminals... -- --- David A. Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

21 years, 9 months

Need Read-It! v1.02 and/or v1.1 OCR software/manual by Olduvai (for Mac)

by vcf＠siconic.com

I'm looking for a copy of Read-It! v1.02 and/or v1.1 by Olduvai (for the Macintosh). This is OCR software circa 1987-1988. The important thing is the manual. I don't really need the software at this point. There i$ a bounty for thi$. If you have this then please contact me directly at <sellam(a)vintage.org>. Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

21 years, 10 months

VXT X terminal question

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Fred N. van Kempen <Fred.van.Kempen(a)microwalt.nl> wrote: > > Someone on the PUPS / TUHS list has ported 4.3BSD-Tahoe and / or > > 4.3BSD-Reno to the VAX4000-7xx. AFAIK he had some porblems with > > interrupts at autoconfig time, but got it running. > Heh. This is not too hard, but *only* if he used the machine with > a KFQSA (DSSI-to-MSCP) controller, rather than the onboard SHAC. > > It'd be a start, though. Michael, was this you? Not me. My 4.3BSD suffix is Quasijarus, not Tahoe or Reno. But my opinion on SHAC is radically different from yours. SHAC is a darling beauty. It is a problem only for cheap OSes like NutBSD and Linsux. Since SHAC is a true CI host adapter with the true Generic VAX Port (GVP) it is perfectly supported by the SCA CI port driver present in every proper VAX OS with SCA such as Ultrix. Although DEC killed VAX Ultrix before MicroVAXen with SHAC came about, source examination shows that the Ultrix V4.20 CI port driver supports SHAC (on XMI). Some day I will lift the SCA code wholesale from Ultrix and plop it into 4.3BSD-Quasijarus. MS

21 years, 10 months

cool find.

by cvisors＠carnagevisors.net

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Okay cool find for the day. I just got myself an Indigo2 R8000. and the cool thing is I actually got a copy of IRIX 6.5 with it, I now have IRIX media Yay! it also has another network card installed in the machine, plus some video capture board, but unfortunately with out the breakout box. at present just installing Irix on this machine, as the original install had /usr as a NFS share.. anyway a nice machine to add to my collection of way too much stuff. (already been told off from the significant other about it ;) ) - ----------------- I saw two shooting stars last night I wished on them but they were only satellites Is it wrong to wish on space hardware? I wish, I wish, I wish you'd care Billy Bragg 1983 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBPjIaTfy2mMMkIDolEQK/0QCgpgQL5RY0/DryJhn0ju+KIEKoBLYAnjwW ebh4IcpZkOC/Y7x/oVklGubG =sWny -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

21 years, 10 months

What's better than canned air?

by cb＠mythtech.net

>> At first I filled my tank at my fire house off our breathing air >> compressor, but that got to be a pain, so I bought a small air compressor >> (also at Sears, also about $40) > >You mean one of those small, tankless compressors? I went to Sears last >night, and the cheapest tank-equipped compressor they had was $180. >Considering the potential cheapness of used scuba gear, that's way too much >to pay for air. Anyway, I'd always thought that those little compressors >weren't all that great. Am I wrong? Correct, a tankless compressor. The type sold for filling car tires or whatever. The one I have is pretty good considering the price, but I can't use it directly to run my blowgun. I have to fill my storage tank, and run the blow gun off that. The reason is, the compressor will go to 250 PSI, but it starts at Zero and works its way up. So if I attach the blowgun directly to it, I never get more than about 1 or 2 PSI (whatever pressure it builds up from friction going thru the hose). But, the compressor works very well for filling my 12 gallon air tank to 200 PSI, which then works very well for running my blowgun at 10-60 PSI (depending on where I set the regulator). Although used SCUBA gear is a good cheap option, you have to consider how often you are going to fill it, and how much that is going to cost you. Remember, if you pay $180 for a tank/compressor at Sears, that's it. From then on out, compressed air is more or less free (electricity to power the compressor, and maintenance costs). With a SCUBA tank, you might buy the tank and regulator for under $100, but you will pay for each refill (unless you know someone that has a 3000 PSI compressor... if you are friends with a fireman, ask if their department can do it, we do for friends and the occasional resident if they ask nicely, but then not all FDs have their own breathing air compressor, and fewer have the attachments for filling SCUBA gear) If you figure $8 each, your last $80 is used up in 10 fillings. Not to mention the time/effort/annoyance to have to fill it when it runs out at the worst possible time. But if you don't fill the bottle offen (those bottles hold a LOT of air at 1 atmosphere), then SCUBA might be the cheaper, and certainly quieter option. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 10 months

cctalk digest, Vol 1 #391 - 45 msgs

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

The problem with this is that you are totally ignoring the owners rights in this. You are treating a program like physical property when it isn't. It is Intellectual Property. If you do not purchase a license from the author to use his work, you are not entitled to own it. Whether you have made a copy so that nobody else is deprived of their copy is immaterial. Something is lost by him/her. His/her rights to control the distribution of his/her work. If you don't want to buy it, then you shouldn't have it. If you say "F" you, I'm going to take one anyway... What's the point in having copyright/ownership laws? If the laws aren't used, respected and enforced.. eventually people will decide not to create cool stuff because most people will "copy" it (and in your concept, since they won't buy it anyway... No harm is being done...), and the author will recieve little to no compensation for his work. So, those people will decide to do something where they will get paid. If you consistently rob a store, eventually it will go out of business, and you won't have anything to rob anymore, not to mention... Actually buy something you need.... So there is HUGE harm in stealing software by copying it. Most pirates won't admit to it, because then they'd have to admit they are bad people, stealing >from someone/everyone... This is all elementary business/copyright law. Not an opinion. It's the basis of all copyright law. Regards, Al __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

21 years, 10 months

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test-drb January 2003