test-drb September 2002

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Obsolecence (Was RE: OT: PC Motherboard with a vacuum tube)

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> In fact, the *only* disadvantage that DVD has as a medium is that unlike >VHS, it's not readily recordable. If I were a rental shop I'd see this as a bonus too :-) > If I were a video rental store, I'd be dumping miserable VHS cassettes as >fast as I could. Let the antique shops rent them. The DVD market now >represents a rather large percentage of the rental market, since a >reasonable DVD player is as cheap as a mid-range VHS deck. True. The lack of VHS cassettes for rental does not mean that you cannot keep playing the ones you have at home however. So I don't see this as making the VCR + tapes obsolete. (In the UK, the VHS=>DVD move has not yet happened - there are plenty of people with VCR and no DVD player). If I were so inclined, I suspect that I could stock up on enough spare VCRs and tapes to last me as long as I am likely to watch them. Antonio

21 years, 9 months

Free Stuff for PICKUP ONLY in Collegeville, PA (near philly)

by Gary.Messick＠itt.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Hechinger [mailto:wonko@4amlunch.net] > Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 3:48 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Free Stuff for PICKUP ONLY in Collegeville, PA (near philly) > > > i have had the pleasure of making a trip with Dave McGuire to > rescue some very > nice PDP-11/70 boxes. what were not expecting was the volume > of stuff that we > were presented with. being the people we are, we could not > just flat out say > no, we had to take it all. it filled a 24' truck. that's a > lot of PDP-11/70. > > in the pile of stuff was a bunch of LA36 and LA120 terminals. > only one of the > LA36 terminals powers up and DTRT, the rest are assumed to be > dead. this is > WAY more stuff that i can deal with, so i need these dead > terminals (including > a dead LA120) as well as the working LA36 and four CRT > terminals gone from my > house as soon as possible. i am not one to lightly toss > things into the skip, > but if these are not recovered from my house in a timely > manner, i fear i have > no choice but to do so. > > ok, quick run out to the driveway, and here is a list of what > is there for the > taking: > > 1 LA120 (assumed broken) > 4 LA36 (assumed broken) > 1 LA36 (seems to work) > 1 Qume QVT-101 CRT terminal (powers up, seems to work) > 1 Qume QVT-201 CRT terminal (powers up, seems to work) > 1 Qume QVT-202 CRT terminal (powers up, seems to work) > MicroTeam FE 4520 CRT terminal (powers up, seems to work) > Diablo 620 (untested, has the extra tractor assembly) > > i think i have the keyboards for all the CRT terminals, but > i'd have to check. > > -brian > > ps: some pics of the PDP-11 haul, as well as moving my large > collection of VAX > kit from dave's locker to my garage (stone/dirt floors SUCK) > -- > she manipulates my language | > the scion of a cunning goddess | Fridge > and i *am* but a MAN | Magnet > watching my gratuitous torment | Poetry > not looking herculean | Brian, I'm looking for some keycaps for a LA-36. Would it be possible for you to grab me a couple of the LA-36's? I could re-reimburse you for expenses incurred (like maybe shipping and a 6-pack?) I've got an original LA-36 (bought new), and the Wife thoughtfully vacuumed the "really dusty" keyboard, and ate a couple of keycaps! Thanks for your consideration! Gary ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************

21 years, 9 months

OT: PC Motherboard with a vacuum tube

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Sufficiently retro to be interesting. Take a look at http://www.aopen.com/products/mb/Pax4b-533tube1.htm. The tube is used in an onboard audio preamp.

21 years, 9 months

Proper Observance of ESD Handling Proceedures

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Generally I agree with the comments about the necessity of anti-static packing but otherwise I'm very suspicious of messages like this that are posted without a name and not even a recognizable From address. If the situation is as bad as you describe then why didn't you post negative feedback instead of neutral? Just for those of you that are interested, the buyer's feedback rating is 51 and the seller's feedback rating is 1332! The auction in question appears to be <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1750732393>. I think there's more going on here than what this message describes. Joe At 04:44 PM 9/8/02 -0400, you wrote: > > > >If any of you list members ( that are also eBay buyers, as many of you are >) feel >as we do, that computer components should be shipped in some type of antistatic >packaging, you might wish to avoid purchases from ... > > eBay seller ... davidth > > dba ... Tec Instruments Inc > >We purchased a computer card from them that they did not place in an antistatic >bag. They just wrapped it in clear bubble wrap, which is not an antistatic >material. >As most, if not all, of you well know, the pink bubble wrap is the >antistatic variety. >We just purchased a roll ourselves that cost us less than eight cents per >square >foot. One square foot ( eight pennies worth ) would have been sufficient to >have >done a decent job, but that was not done. > >They also did not realize we had paid them for the part virtually >immediately after >the auction was over ( IIRC we purchased with the Buy It Now feature ) and >SIX WEEKS+ LATER when we still hadn't received it, we had to call and inquire >as to it's whereabouts. > >We felt that a job done that poorly did not deserve a positive comment, so we >gave them a neutral comment calling it like it was. This seller sees fit to >retaliate >against neutral comments and lie in their response. > >Just a heads up for anyone that would wish their purchases not to be >senselessly >placed at risk of damage before you have ever even received it. > > > > > >

21 years, 9 months

New aquisition: Xenophobe

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Ethan Dicks" <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> > > >--- "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote: >> >I wouldn't say it's dangerous, but it certainly gets interesting trying >> to get VAXen and arcade games to co-exist inside the house. >> > >> >: ) >> > >> > >> >Power issues and space.... > >A standard arcade machine is rated at 8.0A max @ 110VAC - that runs >the board set, the lights and the 19" monitor. > >> ...most people here are probably using MAME, rather than having their own >> Arcade cabinets. > >I do both. MAME is portable, but MAME on a PeeCee keyboard can't match >the feel of real buttons, etc. Yes, people are making their own MAME >cabinets (like a buddy of mine down the hall) but you might as well get >a real cabinet to start with. > >The other issue of emulators vs the real thing is odd controllers - >spinners come to mind immediately: Tempest, Star Trek and Arkanoid. >Xenophobe is another, because of the thumb buttons. I've played it >with MAME (and on my Lynx) and it's not the same feel. It's much >smoother with the original hardware. > > >> (she's actually the one that found the cabinet for sale locally...) > >That's the key - not shipping these things across the country. If >I didn't have an arcade auction nearby, I probably would consider >crafting my own cabinet from scratch as a viable option. After >seeing a stripped Galaga Cocktail go for nearly $100, maybe I still Hi Most empty upright cabinets go for giveaway prices. Cocktail machines are alway a premium, even stripped ones because one can move an upright's inners into one and increase the value. Rather than using MAME, why not just get a complete working vid. Better yet, a real pinball machine :) Dwight >will (I have a spare boardset for Gorf - I can use a DEC VR241 as >the monitor and have it take up less space). > >-ethan > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes >http://finance.yahoo.com >

21 years, 9 months

New aquisition: Xenophobe

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

You can always build your own panel. I have friends who run MAME on a PC using real arcade controllers. Happ Controls (http://www.happcontrols.com/) sells buttons, joysticks, trackballs, even coin input boxes. Not necessarily cheap to buy all the parts from them, but they are the real things. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:40 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: New aquisition: Xenophobe <snip> >>I do both. MAME is portable, but MAME on a PeeCee keyboard can't match >>the feel of real buttons, etc. >Yea - no kidding. Try playing Robotron on a PC.... Or Star Wars (using keyboard) >>The other issue of emulators vs the real thing is odd controllers - >>spinners come to mind immediately: Tempest, Star Trek and Arkanoid. >>Xenophobe is another, because of the thumb buttons. I've played it >>with MAME (and on my Lynx) and it's not the same feel. It's much >>smoother with the original hardware. >I also like putting quarters in my machines. It's sort of a savings account for my addiction. <snip>

21 years, 9 months

HP BASIC

by atredo＠nitram.com

Anyone have an HP Basic Manual ?

21 years, 9 months

Free Stuff for PICKUP ONLY in Collegeville, PA (near philly)

by mythtech＠mac.com

>1 Qume QVT-101 CRT terminal (powers up, seems to work) >1 Qume QVT-201 CRT terminal (powers up, seems to work) >1 Qume QVT-202 CRT terminal (powers up, seems to work) I'm in need of a Qume QVT-108, are any of those 3 compatible? (although, even if so terminal wise, I'm not 100% sure I could use them, as I have to swap in a special RS-422 card from my dead 108). My brother in law lives in the Philly area, so I'm sure I could talk him into picking one up if it would be useable in place of a 108. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 9 months

Latest find: Victor Comptometer, model 12E.523.157.C need power cord

by detyreed＠frontiernet.net

Do you have a picture of this machine? I may have found a machine with the same problem, or any info? Thank you Bob Jasinski

21 years, 9 months

The Financephalograph

by mranalog＠attbi.com

A new link that I placed in my little museum has been generating quite a few enjoyable comments. Financephalograph Bill Phillips is most known for his "Phillips Curve" in Economics. But before the Phillips Curve was invented and while attending London School of Economic, Phillips was having problems understanding the economics lectures. So he sketched out a hydraulic model of the economy, then built the computer that uses water to represent money as it flows through the economy and a pen plotter to display the results. http://www.nzpca.org.nz/megabyte/2001/02/art02.htm One of the (maybe the only) remaining copy of this computer is in the Science Museum in London. If someone gets a chance to stop by and see this computer, I would appreciate a first hand report and maybe,maybe,maybe a picture. Regards, --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog =========================================

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test-drb September 2002