The CG4 in my 3/60 seems to have stopped displaying an image. It's still
detected by the kernel, and outputs a valid sync signal, but I never get
an image on the monitor.
I'd like to replace it. If anybody has a spare they can part with, drop me
a line. I guess I could also be strongarmed into taking a CG6, but I'd
much prefer the CG4 (the CG6 is not supported on SunOS 3.5)...
Or? If somebody knows off the top of their head what's wrong with my
CG4, I could use advice, instead. (;
I think my last message regarding this was in HTML format, so maybe some
people didn't read it. Anyway, I apologize for sending the HTML message.
I am making my "vintage" chat software available for anyone to use. If
you'd like an account, send me an E-mail and I'll create one for you and
send you instructions on how to access the system via Telnet.
Below is the help from it, so you can decide if this interests you or
not. This is "vintage" software because it predates the internet (as we
know it), IRC, etc. and is from the era of the CompuServe "CB"
Send an E-mail to bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com if you'd like access!
For more information, enter one of the following:
/COMMANDS for a list of TALK commands.
/HELP,introduction for an introduction to TALK.
/HELP,commands for an explanation of the TALK commands.
/HELP,flags for an explanation of the TALK flags.
/HELP,messages for an explanation of the TALK status messages.
/HELP,summary for a TALK command summary.
/HELP,author if you are curious.
/HELP,command name for help on a command. Do not include the '/'.
1: /help intro
TALK is a program that allows you to interactively exchange messages
with other users. Each user enters his message, and all users in his
'conference' can read what he was written. Also, a user may direct a
message to a specific user. In this case, the message is referred to as
a 'private' message, as it is private between the two users.
When you enter TALK, you are asked to enter your nickname. This is
the name that other users will refer to you as. You may use your real
name, or you may use a nickname of some sort.
TALK has two modes of operation: Single-line mode and Essay mode. In
single line mode, you can send a one line message at a time. Simply type
the line and press the <Return> key, and everyone in your conference
will see your message. You will receive messages from other users at any
time when you have not typed anything on a line.
In Essay mode, you may enter multiple-line messages. You may also
direct your message to a specific user, whether he/she is in your
conference or a different one. When you want to send your message, you
can either press <Return> on a blank line, or use the /SEND command.
TALK has special commands which allow you to perform functions other
than sending messages. A TALK command starts with a '/' (slash)
character, followed by the command name. Some commands need parameters
to tell the command what to do. If the command needs parameters, use a
',' (comma) to separate the command and its parameters.
TALK supports multiple 'conferences'. A conference is a place where a
group of users get together and talk about a specific subject. When you
first enter TALK, you are put into the conference 'Limbo'. Limbo is a
conference that always exists and is a conference for general use. You
can create your own conference with the /CREATE command.
The person who creates a conference becomes the conference controller
for that conference. If they leave the conference, then there is no
conference controller and anyone else in the conference may become the
controller. The conference controller has the ability to perform
specific tasks relating to their conference, such as putting a password
on it so that only users who know the password may join.
Use the command /HELP to get information about the various TALK
features. Use /HELP,COMMANDS to get help on all the commands.
1: /help commands
The following commands are valid while using talk. The command names
are shown in uppercase only to stress that they are TALK commands; You
may use upper, lower, or mixed case for the commands.
Parameters shown in square brackets ([ ]) are optional and are not
These commands create a conference and make you the controller.
you supply a password, then the conference is locked and only
who use the password may join it. Note that upper and lowercase
in passwords is significant. If you write an essay before
the conference, the essay will be used as the conference
which may be viewed by using the /DESCRIBE command.
This command moves you to a new conference. If the conference is
locked, you must supply the correct password. Note that upper
lower case in passwords is significant.
This command moves you to the conference where the user you
is. If the conference is locked, you must specify the conference
This command will cause the conference to become a moderated
conference. In a moderated conference, only the controller and
those designated by the controller are allowed to speak
There is also a speak request queue to allow users to enter a
request to speak. Related commands are /ALLOW, /DISALLOW, /SPEAK
This command returns the conference to the normal, unmoderated
This command will allow the conference controller of a moderated
conference to give a user the privelege to speak publically.
can be used to allow guest speakers to speak freely.
These commands will take away the privelge to speak freely from
user within a moderated conference. Only the conference
may issue this command.
The conference controller can use this command to open the
request queue for entries. If the queue is not enables, users
use the /SPEAK command to request a turn to speak.
This command allows the controller to close the speaker request
queue to any further /SPEAK commands.
Enteres a request into the speaker queue in a moderated
If you have been designated as a speaker by the conference
you do not need to (and cannot) use the command.
This command will display the speaker request queue in a
This command allows the controller of a moderated conference to
give the next person in the speaker request queue their turn to
speak. The current speaker in the queue (if there is one) will
automatically be silenced.
This command will display the description of a conference that
specify. If you do not specify a conference name, the conference
are in will be described.
This command allows you to create a new description for your
ence. Create an essay, and instead of sending it, use the
command. You must be the conference controller to use this
if there is no conference controller, you will be come the
This command will change the current conference name to the new
name specified. You must be the conference controller to use
command. If there is no controller, you will become the
This command allows you to monitor another conference. The
of the other conference will be aware that you are monitoring
conference. If you want to monitor a locked conference, you must
specify the conference password. If you do not specify any
name, monitoring will be shut off. You can only monitor one
at a time.
This command allows you to monitor anotehr user's messages. The
will not be aware that you are monitoring their messages. If you
want to eavesdrop on a user that is in a locked conference, you
supply the correct password for that conference. If you don't
any user name, eavesdropping will be shut off. Note that you can
eavesdrop on one user at a time, and you can only read that
public messages, NOT their private ones.
Squelching allows you to ignore public and private messages from
selected users. If you do not specify a user name, a list of the
current users you have squelched will be shown.
This command allows you to resume receiving messages from a user
that you have previously squelched.
This command will set up an alert to tell you when the specified
user enters TALK. If you do not specify a user name, the current
alert will be cancelled. You may only have one active alert at a
time. Once you have received your alert, the alert will auto-
matically be cancelled.
This command will set up a 'notify' to tell you when the
user logs onto the VAX. If you do not specify a user name, the
current notify will be cancelled. You may only have one active
notify at a time. Once you have received your notify, the notify
will automatically be cancelled.
This command will notify the user specified that they are being
requested to join TALK by you. You can also include an optional
message that will appear on the second line of the call. If you
an optional message of asterisk (*), a message telling the user
to enter the TALK system will be displayed.
With this command, you can lock a conference. You can only lock
conference if you are the conference controller, or if no one is
the conference controller. If no one is the conference
then you will be made the conference controller upon locking the
conference. If the conference is already locked, using the /LOCK
command will change the password users must supply to enter the
This command will unlock a locked conference. You can only
a locked conference if you are the conference controller, or if
one is the conference controller. If no one is the conference
controller, you will be made the controller upon using the
This command will cause all the public conversations in the
conference to be transcribed to the specified file. If you do
speicfy a file name, the current transcription will be stopped.
conference may only have one transcription active at a time, and
the creator of the transcription may stop it. If you start a
scription and then exit TALK, that transcription will remain
until the conference is dispersed.
This command allows the conference controller to evict a user
his conference. The user that is evicted is placed in the Limbo
conference. You may only evict someone if you are the conference
controller, or if there is no controller of your conference. You
cannot evict anyone from Limbo.
If any users are monitoring your conference, this command will
turn their monitoring off. You may only issue this command if
are the conference controller or if there is no conference
ler. If there is no conference controller, you will become the
controller. This command is useful if you wish to isolate your
conference from the public. First, use the /LOCK command to give
your conference a password, then use the /NOMONITOR command to
insure that no users are currently monitoring it. Any users who
subsequently wish to join or monitor your connference will need
supply the correct password.
This command allows you to give up control of your conference.
you relinquish control, anyone else may become the conference
This command will allow you to take control of a conference if
there is no controller.
This command puts you into 'essay' mode, where you may write a
multi-line message. Send the message with a blank line or with
the /SEND command.
This command lists your current essay on the screen. It is
if you have received some messages and lost track of what you
This command will erase your current essay.
This command will send your 'essay'. If you specify a user name
your message will be sent to only that person. If you do not
specify a user name, your message will be sent to everyone in
This command works exactly like /SEND except that it re-sends
last 'essay'. If you have entered at least one line of a new
'essay', this command will not work.
This command will send your 'essay' to a specific user. Only the
user you specify will receive the message.
This command will direct the current message to the specified
when it is sent with the /SEND command or a blank line.
a name on the /SEND or /WHISPER command will override the /TO
setting. Use /TO with no parameter to clear the setting. /TO is
only active for the current essay, and is reset when the essay
This command will initiate the sending of a private message to
sender of the last whisper message you received. After issuing
/REPLY command, you will receive a message telling who the
will be directed to. Enter your message, and press <return> on a
blank line, and the message will be sent. If the message is not
directed to the person that you wished, use the /SEND or
or /TO commands to direct your message to the proper place.
This command will take your current essay and place it on hold.
You may continue to talk, as usual. When you would like to
retreive the essay you have on hold, use the /UNHOLD command.
This command will take the essay you have placed on hold and
restore it as your current essay. The hold buffer is cleared.
This command will show you the users on TALK. If a conference
is specified, only the users in that conference will be shown. A
conference name of * will cause a list of users in your curent
conference to be displayed.
This command is similar to /USERS, but in a more abbreviated
This command prints a short list of all the current conferences
the number of users in each.
In a moderated conference, this command will display a list of
the users who are allowed to speak.
This command gives a brief listing of all the TALK commands.
This command displays TALK's userlog. This log shows the users
have used TALK in the past. Specify the number of entries you
like to be displayed. If you do not specify a number, the entire
will be displayed.
This command will display any news about Talk that has been
by the system manager.
This command will allow you to change your face style displayed
your messages. Use the /FACE,LIST command to get a list of the
allowable face styles, or /FACE to clear your face style.
This command allows you to change your nickname. Specify your
name as the parameter to the command.
Sets a comment to be displayed with every status message from
If you don't supply a comment, your current comment will be
This command will show you a detailed status and description
your current session on TALK.
This command will show you an activity summary of the TALK
since it was last started.
Displays Talk's current limits. These limits are set by the
This command will clear your terminal screen. If you have the
ansicrt flag set, the ANSI sequence will be used to clear your
screen, otherwise blank lines will be used to scroll your
This command will allow you to access the VAXmail system. If you
do not specify any parameters, you will be placed directly into
VAXmail. When you exit from VAXmail, you will return to TALK
losing any messages sent to you. If you specify a VAX username,
your current essay will be mailed to that user. You can
specify a subject to be attached to your message.
This command will allow you to access DCL. If you specify a
that command will be executed as if you entered it at the DCL
If you do not specify a command, you will get the DCL prompt.
return to TALK with the LOGOUT command.
This command will use your current essay as a gripe message. It
be sent to the person responsible for handing gripes about TALK.
You can also use the /GRIPE command for compliments or
regarding the TALK system.
This command will display you flag settings. If you supply a
name, that flag's setting will be displayed. Otherwise, all flag
settings will be displayed.
This command sets (turns on) the flag you specify.
This command clears (turns off) the flag you specify.
Any of these commands will exit you from talk. If you specify a
comment, it will be displayed in the log next to your name.
1: /help flags
You may set or clear certain 'flags' which allow you to customize
TALK to your personal preferences. Use the /SET command to set a flag
on) and the /CLEAR command to clear a flag (turn it off). The following
are descriptions of the flags you can use:
alarm With this flag set, you will hear a beep every time
receive a message from a user. This flag can be
if the conversation on TALK is slow and you want to
away from the screen while waiting for a message.
ansicrt Set this flag if you have an ANSI compatable
(such as a VT100, VT220, Visual 102, etc). This will
allow TALK to take advantage of your terminal's
features. >NOT FULLY IMPLEMENTED IN THIS VERSION<
autoact This flag will cause an /ACTIVITY comamnd to be
you enter TALK.
autoflags This flag will cause your current flag settings to
shown when you enter TALK. It is the equivalent of
a /SHOW command when you enter TALK.
autousers This flag will cause a /USERS command to be executed
you enter TALK.
autosum This flag will cause a /SUMMARY command to be
when you enter Talk.
clock This flag controls weather the time is displayed
to received messages. With this flag set, the time
be shown. With this flag clear, the time will not be
essaylock This flag will cause you to permanently stay in
mode, as if you had typed /ESSAY after each message.
To get out of this mode, use /CLEAR,essaylock.
faces Setting this flag will show the face next to the
name in a message. Clearing this flag will cause the
faces to be shown only in the /users command.
fullessay If this flag is set, you will not be interrupted
messages until you have finished a full essay and
it. If this flag is clear, you will be able to
messages inbetween lines of an essay. Note that you
will never receive messages while you are in the
of typing a line.
hearbells When set, this flag allows bell characters to be
on the terminal. Clearing this flag will permit
operation of TALK.
invisible Setting this flag will allow you to be invisible
inside a locked conference. If you are the
controller, you will always be seen.
noecho If you would like to put your terminal in local echo
mode, setting this flag will cause Talk to stop
the characters you type. With this flag clear, Talk
will echo all the characters you type.
privates Setting this flag will allow you to receive private
or whisper messages send with the /WHISPER or /SEND
commands. Clearing this flag will not allow you to
receive any of these messages.
prompt The prompt flag will cause TALK to give you prompts
each line of input. In 'Essay' mode you will get a
telling you which line you are on. Otherwise you
a '>' prompt. If you set the prompt flag off, you
not get any prompts for input.
readown Setting this flag will allow you to see your own
that you send. With this flag set, you can see how
messages look within the context of all the other
messages. Note that you will not see messages which
direct at a specific user with the /SEND command.
seebells This flag will show bells as <BELL> on the terminal.
It is useful if the hearbells flag is cleared. Note
this flag does not affect the sounding of bells on
singlesp With some terminals, writing essays with prompt
will cause the essay to appear double space. Set
flag if your essays appear double spaceed with
clear, then set this flag. Otherwise, leave it
verbose This flag will cause TALK to display a more wordy
of it's messages.
watch This flag allows you to watch who enters and leaves
wordwrap Setting this flag while in essay mode will wrap
around to the next line as you are typing.
1: /help mess
At times throughout a TALK session, you may see 'status' messages
>from a user. A status message has the form:
< message > user name
where 'message' gives the status for the user 'user name'. The following
is a list of possible status messages:
< Entering > The user is entering the TALK system.
< Leaving > The user is leaving the TALK system.
< Joining > The user is joining your conference from another
< Moving > The user is leaving your conference and moving to
< Moderating > The user has changed the conference into moderated
status. Users may not speak publically unless
by the controller.
< Unmoderating > The confernce has been returned to normal,
< Speaker > The user has been designated as a speaker by the
conference controller. The user may speak
< Silenced > The user may no longer speak publically within the
< Logged In > The user was the one you specified in a /NOTIFY
and the user has logged into the VAX.
< Monitoring > The user is monitoring your conference. He can read
the messages (except for private messages) which
sent in your conference.
< Not Monitoring > The user is not monitoring your conference anymore.
< Evicted > This means that the user has been evicted or
out of the conference by the conference controller.
The user that is evicted is moved to Limbo.
< Locking > This message means that the conference controller
locked the conference. If the conference was
locked, then he is changing the password.
< Unlocking > This means that the conference controller has
the conference. The conference is now available for
< Ghosted Out > This means that the user has somehow left TALK by
going through the normal means. TALK has just
that this person is no longer using TALK, so they
< Timed Out > This means that the user has timed out of Talk.
< Controlling > The user has taken control of the conference.
< Relinquishing > This means that the user is relinquishing control
< Comment > The user has changed their comment.
1: /help sum
/ACTIVITY Show an activity summary of TALK
/ALERT[,system name] Alert when user enters TALK
/ALLOW,user name Allow a user to speak
/BYE[,comment] Exit TALK
/CALL,user name[,message] Call a user to TALK
/CANCEL Erase current essay
/CLEAR,flag name Clear a flag
/CLS Clear terminal screen
/COMMANDS Lists TALK commands
/COMMENT Sets up a comment for display
/CONFLIST Display a list of available
/CONTROL Take control of the conference
/CREATE,conf name[,password] Create a conference
/DCL[,command] Access DCL from TALK
/DESCRIBE[,conf name] Print a conference description
/DISABLEQ Disables the speaker request queue
/DISALLOW,user name Disallow a user to speak
/DONE[,comment] Exit TALK
/EAVESDROP[user name[,password]] Eavesdrop on a usewr
/ENABLEQ Enables the speaker request queue.
/ESSAY Enter a multi-line message
/EVICT,user name Evict a user from a conference
/EXIT[,comment] Exit TALK
/FACE[,style] Change face style
/GOTO,conf name[,password] Goto a conference
/GRIPE Submit a gripe about TALK.
/HOLD Puts the current essay on hold.
/JOIN,user name[,password] Join a user in a conference
/KILL Erase current essay
/LIMITS Displays Talk's current limits.
/LIST List current essay
/LOCK,password Lock a conference
/LOG[,number] Display userlog
/MAIL[,vax user[,subject]] Access the VAXmail system
/MAKE,conf name[,password] Create a conference
/MODERATE Make the current conference
/MONITOR[,conf name[,password]] Monitor a conference
/NAME,new name Change nickname
/NEXT Let the next person in the queue
/NEWS Shows Talk news
/NODES Shows a list of nodes linked to
/NOMONITOR Stop users from monitoring
/NOTIFY[,vax username] Notify when user logs into VAX
/PANEL Display a list of the speaking
/QUEUE Display the speaker request queue
/QUIT[,comment] Exit TALK
/RELINQUISH Relinquish control of your
/RENAME Give the conference a new name
/REPLY Reply to the last private message
/RESEND[,user name] Resend last multi-line message
/SEND[,user name] Send a multi-line message
/SET,flag name Set a flag
/SHOW[,flag name] Show flag settings
/SILENCE,user name Disallow a user to speak
/SPEAK Enter a request into the speaker
/SQUELCH[,user name] Squelch (ignore) a user
/STATUS Show status about yourself.
/SUMMARY Show a summary of Talk users
/TO[,user name] Direct a message to a user
/TRANSCRIBE[,file name] Transcribe conference to file
/UNHOLD Take essay off hold
/UNLOCK Unlock a conference
/UNMODERATE Unmoderates the conference
/UNSQUELCH,user name Unsquelch a user
/USERS[,conf name] Show users on TALK
/WHISPER,user name Send a message to a specific user
1: /help auth
TALK was written in VAX C by Bob Lafleur. TALK was inspired from my
use of many 'TALK' systems, including, but not limited to 'TALK',
'Twinkle' and 'Confer' at U-Mass/Amherst, 'DIALOG' by Mike Hurst, and
CompuServe's CB Simulator. I would also like to thank the users of
Dataseek in Houston, Texas during the summer of 1988 for their unlimited
If you have any ideas for this TALK program, please send them to me,
as I am continually interested in making this program the BEST talk
program around! I can be contacted at:
45 Ionia Street
Springfield, MA 01109-2519
Phone: (413) 737-8503
bob(a)nq1c.ampr.org (IP address 22.214.171.124)
Packet: NQ1C @ W1NY.MA.USA.NA
/activity /allow /bye /call /clear /cancel
/cls /commands /comment /control /conflist /create
/dcl /describe /disableque /disallow /done
/enableque /essay /evict /exit /face /goto
/gripe /help /hold /join /kill /limits
/list /lock /log /mail /make
/monitor /name /newdesc /news /next /nodes
/nomonitor /panel /queue /quit /relinquish /rename
/reply /resend /send /set /show
/speak /squelch /status /summary /to
/unhold /unlock /unmoderate /unsquelch /users
> If I remember right UCX was for VMS 4 or earlier I think.... I gotta do
> some digging, I know I've got the Digital TCP Services CD someplace, I'll
> look into the WASD webserver afterwards, it would be fun to check it out.
I'm not sure when UCX started, but it went through OpenVMS 7.1/UCX 4.0, it
was with OpenVMS 7.2 that it switched to TCPIP 5.0, and the current version
is either 5.1 or 5.3 (I think 5.3 may have just come out with 7.3-1, but
I've not seen the release notes, or a new Condist).
I have e-mailed Joe about what I have - a nice brand new set of three in
their original package. The package is not sealed in plastic, but the disks
look new and unused. I'm going to keep one, but will sell his people two
disks and the case. Anyone want to comment on their worth? Thanks, David
"classiccomputing" on eBay
<< I do have some for my TRS80 m.2 and possibly my Shugart, but I'm hanging
on to them like a leech.
What about fabricating some with 8" jackets. After all they're simply
abrasive absorbent paper in an 8" envelope. No ?
On the other hand, after reading the other replies, possibly I could spare
ONE for suitable goods or renumeration. The TRS 8" Heath, and Shugart
ARE easy to get at the head(s).
If interested contact me. They are NOT in hermetically sealed packages.
Now that the VCF dates have changed, it gives you procrastinators another
month to prepare an exhibit. We could certainly use more exhibits this
year so if you are considering it, visit the exhibitor information page:
For those of you who had other plans for the old dates, the new dates
represent an opportunity to come, so mark your calendar!
And if you want to sell anything at the VCF, either as a vendor or on
consignment, there is still plenty of space available:
See you there!
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
* Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *
Well, jsut aquired myself a nice sgi indigo, the only issue I think I may
of been given the wrong mouse...
Now if any listmembers, happen to have an indigo, can you tell me the part
number of the mouse, the mouse I have is 9150809 which I think is for an
Indigo 2, but then I could be wrong...
Nice machine tho, it has no hard drive, or any of the sleds, but that
isn't too much of an issue, as I will use an external scsi drive. But the
monitor is huge, about 20 inch I think its silicon graphics branded, but
made by mitsubishi (I think) and the monitor is in good condition..
The best thing about it, is the cost.. I got it for nothing, which is nice
down here in australia. as I very rarely see anything which is free to a
You might also want to check out the software designed to read from a
serial-interface modified CueCat bar code reader, cuecat-0.3.0.tar.gz at
http://www.viking.org.au/mirrors/cuecat/, IIRC. The original CueCat
interfaced with the keyboard port, but there were hacks to serially
interface it, then read the character stream.
From: Michael Holley [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Need PC-AT "keyboard BIOS" docs
I have been looking into this also. Here is a good link on AT Keyboards
----- Original Message -----
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:34:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com>
Subject: Need PC-AT "keyboard BIOS" docs
I had this idea for a keyboard adapter for classic machines, but I
don't understand the 40-pin "keyboard BIOS" microcontroller well
enough to know if it's possible...
So... is there a good place (on the web) to learn about the
"keyboard BIOS" chip? Alternatively, is there already a project
like this that I can clone? If anyone has any examples of how
to attach a PeeCee keyboard to a 68000 or 6502 directly, without
going through a UART, I guess I'd be interested in that, too; but
since I was already planning on sticking a Z8530 or 6551 or 16550
chip on the OMNIBUS board anyway, I might as well use the same
serial port for all embedded console I/O.
Thanks for any pointers,
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> WASD??? I'll look into it. What kills me is I used to have a few CD's
> with Multinet on them and as the years went by they disappeared, I have all
> of the books for Digital TCP Services but can't find the CD for that either,
> damned shame.
> The Hobbyist thing, its what $90 to join and get the cd's and such or
> something like that, right?
Look for the free Encompass membership option (Associate?). The CD's are
something like $20, and there is supposed to be a new set in the works, that
will be done in the next month or two. Once you've got a valid Encompass
(DECUS) membership you can download Multinet and TCPware from the Process
Remember, the hobbyist licenses restrict you from using the system for
anything other than hobbyist use.
At 08:26 PM 8/29/02 +1000, you wrote:
>Well, jsut aquired myself a nice sgi indigo, the only issue I think I may
>of been given the wrong mouse...
>Now if any listmembers, happen to have an indigo, can you tell me the part
>number of the mouse, the mouse I have is 9150809 which I think is for an
>Indigo 2, but then I could be wrong...
The mouse that I have on my Indigo is PN 9150800. This one is a mechanical mouse. I used to have an optical mouse for it that worked but got rid of it and don't know it's PN. I tried some other optical mice that a friend had and they would have move the cursor in one axis!? (horizontal IIRC)
FWIW I just spent a good bit of my spare time for the past three days removing, disassembling, cleaning and reinstalling a good number of the key switchs on my keyboard. Whew! I'm glad that's over!