Hi.
I'm looking for either a boot disk image for a Convergent Technologies
B26 (CP-001/9) or some help managing the normal boot sequence.
The B26 has a hard disk, and boots perfectly from it. The only
problem is that it boots directly into an application (or OS? OZ 4.1?)
that requires a login. Which, of course, wasn't taped to the bottom of
the keyboard or anything. :)
It looks like the thing is willing to boot from floppy first, but it
doesn't like me DOS 3.1 or 3.2 boot disk, or anything else I've tried.
I'm reasonably sure it's a 720K DSQD drive.
I'd like to find a CTOS boot floppy, so I can maybe edit the login
files on the hard drive, or help interrupting or altering the boot
sequence so I can bypass the login and do it. I have been able to go to
a boot menu rather than booting automatically. Holding the spacebar
during reset gets to:
V 9.2
B,D,L,M,P,T:_
but I don't know where to go from there.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Doc
What DECservers can be used in console mode? IE I telnet to a port
on the decserver, and it connects me out a serial port to a VAX?
Also required is the ability to send a break (for my sparcstations)
Regards,
Clint
Yes, they are!
I saw a program on spiders a few eeks ago on the Discovery Channel.
They mentioned the brown recluse spider, and she is indeed quite
dangerous. You hardly notice the bite of this spider, but after a
few days you become sick/ill. If not treated well there are serious
problems for you. I do not remember if the "problem" is fatal ...
- Henk.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Barnes [mailto:davebarnes@adelphia.net]
> Sent: vrijdag 28 juni 2002 15:09
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Classic Computer Spider
>
>
> and aren't brown recluse spiders VERY dangerous?
>
>
>
>
> Chad Fernandez wrote:
>
> > Sellam Ismail wrote:
> > > Check out this beauty:
> > >
> > > http://www.siconic.com/crap/Classic%20Computer%20Spider.jpg
> > >
> > > She's about 3 inches in diameter. Maybe not the biggest
> you've ever seen,
> > > but pretty much the biggest that's ever come out of my garage.
> > >
> > > I found her hiding in the corner of my garage amidst the
> last remaining
> > > old computer stuffs that are there. I caught her in a
> glass, where she
> > > spent the rest of the day until I could figure out what
> to do with her.
> > >
> > > I just let her go at the park down the street.
> >
> > I would have squished it..... looks like a really big brown
> recluse to me.
> >
> > Chad Fernandez
> > Michigan, USA
A cleanup at my workplace has yielded the following items
dumpster-bound. These will be pickup only in the Houston
area (near Bush Int'l) and may not be available for very long.
Most too large to ship, don't have the time or materials. Best if
u can pickup this weekend. Contact me off-list if interested.
- 18 Rk05 diskpacks; NOT the 12-sector type used on PDP11, these
have 8 slots in the sector ring (PDP8 ?). Don't know what
they came off of.
- LA-100 printer; desktop, working
- DEC paper reader/punch (rack mount) + PC11 controller (unibus)
+docs + a Bunch of paper tapes. Long unused, last known working
- several DD-11 backplanes (unibus)
- Cipher f880 rack mount, front load 1600bpi tape. Working pull
from de-comm sys
- SGI Iris 1400 + rgb monitor + kb + mouse + docs. Condition ?
This is a pedestal style, not a desktop.
- 2 RL02's (1 working, 1 not), 6 packs mostly rt11, 1 rsx
- 2 inop la36's
- misc: df11's, rz23's, 8" hard-sec floppies, ....
nick
> > I seem to remember someone saying that the DECservers are basically a
> > Q-Bus PDP-11 system. Is this correct, or am I thinking of something else?
> > Also, does anyone know what they're based off of and if it's possible to
> > make them boot a 'conventional' os by changing their bootroms?
>
> The DECserver 500 and 550 are PDP-11 systems. The others
> are not.
And to finish answering the original question, the CPU boards are basically
a PDP-11/53, and all you need to do is change the ROMs and add a disk
controller.
Zane
Please have vicarious fun reading what was intended to be a private
reply.. sigh. I guess we all have to do this once or twice, just for
Balance...
I *still* like reply-to-list, no matter what...
Cheers
John
Central Point Deluxe Option board: I don't recall how this card is
supposed to interface with the disks. There is a card edge connector
and a row of pins on the board. Does the board go inbetween the FDC and
drives, or does it replace the floppy controller entirely? Any special
cabling required, and can it run two drives?
Thanks,
Jeff
Please contact Gary directly if interested.
----- Forwarded message from Gary Zilik <zilik(a)excelgeo.com> -----
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:41:49 -0600
From: Gary Zilik <zilik(a)excelgeo.com>
To: mrbill(a)decvax.org
Subject: Vax system
We currently are doing some house cleaning and have a vax 11/750 in
working condition free to a good home. Many spare parts are included. If
someone can use the system it would be better than the recycle bin.
Unfortuanaly we no longer have any of the manuals.
--
Gary Zilik - Sr. Geophysicist
Excel Geophysical Services, Inc. Email: zilik(a)excelgeo.com
8301 E. Prentice Ave., Suite 402 Phone: (303) 694-9629
Greenwood Village, CO 80111 Fax: (303) 771-1646
----- End forwarded message -----
--
Bill Bradford
mrbill(a)mrbill.net
Austin, TX
SUCCESS!!!!
> > I just realized that there is documentation included, it's in the 'sol.sd',
> > so I'm going to have to pour through it. I get the distinct impression that
> > it's not working the way it should, so I need to see if I've installed it
> > incorrectly (the first look through makes it look like it's installed
> > correctly).
>
> The system is getting far enough to make me think it is installed
> correctly (the interpretter loop is running, for example, it's reading a
> command line, and at least handling some of it). Either there are a lot
> of standard words not implemented in this system (In Forth you can have
> whatever words you like...), or they've got non-standard names (if that's
> the case, the author needs to get a clue!), or you've not assembled one
> of the source files that would include them (if they're in the manual but
> not in the dictionary, this is possible), but I would have thought
> there'd be undefined symbols (if only for the dictionary linkage
> pointers) if that was the case.
I was right it wasn't up completely. I'd booted the minimal system, but I
needed to compile the rest of it. See the following.
sim> b rl0
RL BOOT - OK
SOL-11 0.4 COPYRIGHT (C) 2001 NILS M HOLM
10 list LIST?
10 load 8072 BYTES
YOU MAY NOW TYPE SAVE-SYSTEM TO SAVE THE
NEWLY CREATED KERNEL. OK
save-system OK
save-buffers halt
>
HALT instruction, PC: 010516 (JMP @(R4)+)
sim> b rl
RL BOOT - OK
SOL-11 0.4 COPYRIGHT (C) 2001 NILS M HOLM
WELCOME TO SOL
KERNEL SIZE IS 8072 BYTES
MEMORY SIZE IS 57344 BYTES
THESE MESSAGES ARE LOADED FROM BLOCK #9.
TYPE 9 LIST TO VIEW OR EDIT THIS BLOCK.
THIS DISK CONTAINS THE HLL PART OF THE
SOL KERNEL. TYPE 9 51 INDEX FOR A TABLE
OF CONTENTS.
REMEMBER TO TYPE SAVE-BUFFERS BEFORE
TURNING OFF YOUR MACHINE.
SOL IS READY TO TAKE COMMANDS NOW.
5 3 + . 8 OK
So, as you can see, I've now got it working under SIMH.
One interesting thing I've found in the sol.sd document, is that the author
(Nils M Holm) views the fact that it requires EIS as a bug. Unfortunatly
all the drives that this supports are up in storage, as I don't really have
room for any of them in the apartment, so for the time being I'll have to
play around with this under SIMH. However, it's safe to say I do want to
play with it, and eventually I'd like to get it up and running on real
hardware. Hmmm, I wonder if I can convince my folks to let me temporarily
clean out enough of thier garage to get /44 that's buried in there fired
up.... :^)
Zane
Seems like I'll have to start looking through my
ancient chip supply... I seem to remember a tube
of the ceramic 8080 cpus somewhere...
Of course, I might accidently _flood_ the market... :-)
-al-
-acorda(a)1bigred.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@cfl.rr.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 7:54 AM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: RE: ebay deals do happen
>
>
> At 08:35 AM 6/27/02 -0700, Sellam wrote:
>
> >
> >The reason that Altair processor card got that amount was
> not because of
> >the card itself but because of the 8080 processor on it.
> Apparently, a
> >few chip collectors creamed their pants over it because it
> was an Intel
> >C8080, harboring some manner of significance to them.
> >
> >The buyer was "prepared to go well over $1000 for that
> chip". That chip
> >is apparently listed as having a value of $1,800 on one
> collector's site.
> >
> >Gee, it's like the classic computer craze of 1999 all over again.
>
>
> Geez, I should pull the 8080 CPUs out of my Intel MDS 800s
> and hawk them. Plastic CPU would work just as well and I
> could use the money :-)
>
> Joe
>
