>From the subjectline, I see this post *finally* made it...
I was beginning to think Jack Valenti was censoring me...
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com]
>
> > Please, please don't assume that the idiocy, the long-term impact on
> > innovation and economy, or even the legality of this bill have ANY
> > bearing on its likelihood of passing.
>
> Yep.
>
> > These puppet politicians really don't have a clue or a care what
> > they're sponsoring, and a lot of basically honest legislators are not
> > only absolutely illiterate concerning, but completely unaware of, non-MS
> > computing and digital media technology in general. They can
>
> You're much more kind to them than I. I would have simply
> said they're treasonous, and have never heard of the US
> constitution.
Adam Schiff, another congressman from California, is proposing
a similiar law. Adam has stated that he doesn't expect the law to
pass, but that its sole purpose is to gain leverage against the
high-tech industry regarding the copyright issue and in favor of
the entertainments industry.
In other words, they we'll all be sufficiently scared that we'll finally
give up some ground in the copyright issue. What ground is left
to give up? They've already lengthened the terms of protection
when they should have been shortening them.
To my way of thinking, that constitutes abuse of process, and makes
Fritz Hollings and Adam Schiff not merely traitors, but persona non grata.
-dq
-Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixsnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"]
Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply
"The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits
> From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
> Odd... This really is a strange concept for me. My first computer
> (coincidentally a Sinclair) came as a kit and I had to take a soldering
> iron to it before I could use it... And no I couldn't have afforded to
> replace it if I'd made a mess...
> Since then I think I've taken a soldering iron to just about every
> computer I've owned. Including machines that I couldn't replace even if I
> did have the money. And I've never made matters worse.
> Where does this idea come from that a soldering iron will damage a
> computer. Round here it's generally used to improve the performance of a
> machine...
Tony, not everyone has the same skills you do, and that's a good thing.
For some of us a soldering iron is an instrument we use to build or repair
circuitry. For others, it's an implement of destruction.
I'll wager there are plenty of people on this list who have skills you
don't possess. That doesn't make them better than you, just different.
The one thing we all have in common on this list is the desire to preserve
and use old computers, and we all try to use our skills to do what we can
to achieve that goal.
Do you really thinks it's unreasonable for someone to say "I'm not
confident of my soldering skills so I don't want to risk this computer's
health by soldering it?" To me, this is a very rational attitude.
It sure would be boring if we were all the same . . . ;>)
Does any of this make sense to you?
Glen
0/0
OK .. very old thread..
I know of the galaxy/5. Did a lot of programming on the beast, including creating a system call MTS -- Multi-Tasking System that let you run multiple programs per monitor.
It was a lot of fun to program. Only about 30 of the things made.
-- Bob Flanders
Hi.
I called the guy in New York who is giving away all those Cromemco S-100
systems. He said someone was coming to pick everything up. I didn't
want to be rude and ask who. I was interested in a couple pieces. Would
the person who is picking those up please contact me? I'm hoping we can
work out a deal.
On another note, I accidentally deleted the Usenet message from the guy in
the Bay Area (in California) who is selling a bunch of NeXT laser printers
for $15. Does someone still have his contact info?
Thanks!
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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I'm not sure if it was mentioned, but the @Home service went
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cable internet customers having a bitch of a time getting their e-mail
switched around correctly after that...
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> ----------
> From: Glen Goodwin
>
> > From: Curt Vendel <curt(a)atarimuseum.com>
>
> > Back before Christmas I worked out a deal with Jeff Worley:
> >
> > Jeffrey S. Worley
> > Asheville, NC USA
> > 828-6984887
> > UberTechnoid(a)Home.com
>
> I'm sorry to learn you were ripped off. Thanks for the heads-up.
>
> Glen
> 0/0
>
>
>
>
On April 1, Sridhar the POWERful wrote:
> > Yes, I think your right. Still, I didn't realize that it contained such
> > a high percentage of lead. Me thinks, I'll be more carefull while
> > handleing it in the future. Lead is absorbed through the skin if I'm
> > not mistaken.
>
> Even handling cool boards, pricking yourself with solder points, can be
> dangerous, if you do it enough.
Ahh, so handling Cray, Sun, or VAX boards can be dangerous, but those
not-so-cool boards...say, ISA or PeeCee motherboards...are safe? ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "...it's leaving me this unpleasant,
St. Petersburg, FL damp feeling on my shorts..." -Sridhar
From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net>
>How much lead does solder dor electronics contain? I thought only
>solder for pipes contained lead?
The best alloy is 63/37 63%lead 37% tin. Common variety is 60/40.
The lead is not a hazard by inhalation though some of the fluxes can be.
It is a contact hazard over time as it can be transfered from the skin to
lips
and injested. Solution, wash hands after using.
Solder for pipes, by mandate has been below 5% lead for years, it
used to be mostly lead {90/10}.
>>>It's true. The mercury was used to stiffen the brims. Chronic hat
wearers
>>>also had problems.
Lead is bad as it's water soluable if the PH is right. Mercury is nastier
as
it has a low boiling temperature and combines with Oxygen readily.
Allison
At 02:20 AM 4/1/02 -0500, you wrote:
>On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Chad Fernandez wrote:
>> Yes, I think your right. Still, I didn't realize that it contained such
>> a high percentage of lead. Me thinks, I'll be more carefull while
>> handleing it in the future. Lead is absorbed through the skin if I'm
>> not mistaken.
>
>Even handling cool boards, pricking yourself with solder points, can be
>dangerous, if you do it enough.
>Peace... Sridhar
I've been soldering 25+ years. In my early teens, unaware of
the poisoning risk, I used my patented 3-hand technique, which
involved holding the work piece in my left hand, the soldering
iron in my right hand, and the solder bobbin in my mouth...
I did not actually put the solder in my mouth, but rather,
I bit the edge of the plastic holder. Still, that was
a very bad idea.
I should probably be screened for lead...
carlos.
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