Oops...that was supposed to be for Sellam directly.
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From: Cini, Richard [mailto:RCini@congressfinancial.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 12:33 PM
To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'
Subject: RE: OT: name that computer
Sellam:
Are you planning for VCFE 2.0?
Rich
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:49 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: OT: name that computer
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Chad Fernandez wrote:
> I'm not that old :-)
>
> Of course the 50's had there problems too, but they are generally
> portrayed as being quite wholesome. I wasn't around, but I suspect they
> were. It was probably backlash from WW2.
As long as people continue to age, there will always result a large
population of curmudgeons who will lament their perception that "things
were better in my day".
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
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Does anyone know much about these? I picked up TWO of these cards today
and each one has 144 NCR45CG72 ICs on it. It looks ike EACH IC has 72
microproccesors in it. That makes a total of 20,736 processors!!! Here's a
bit that I found while searching the net. IN FACT, these may be the exact
cards that this guy is referring to since much of the stuff that I find
does orginate at MMC.
Joe
9. Geometric Arithmatic Parallel Processor {GAPP}, a real time vision
recognition, dynamically partitionable, dynamically fault reconfigurable,
array processor (SIMD) for Martin Marietta in Orlando. Each IC contained
72 microprocessors, composed of a single TCU and multiple ALU-register
sets. Array grows in X and Y dimensions to match a required image array of
pixels matrix, and decimates in time to allow fault reconfiguration and
price/performance options. First successful SIMD VLSI. First successful
real time image recognition. Responsibility included addition to
instruction set {If then, case, etc based on if any, if all, if none},
redesign for performance enhancement, and design of fault reconfiguration
switching at internal IC level and external array coordination.
Non-classified version is the 45CG72 from NCR.
>So, to fit the HP formatter board into the Apple chassis, you need to
>replace the base tray (so as to provide the font slots), the connectors
>on the DC controller board (or maybe just swap the entire board :-(), the
>control panel (no way will the HP board drive the Apple LED panel), and
>thus part of the outer casing as well. It's possible, but why bother.
Yeah really... at that point I might as well either yank the good pickup
rollers from the Apple, or for $30 just buy another set.
>It would be simpler to swap over the rollers (or the complete pickup
>shaft assembly). Those parts are _identical_ between the 2 printers.
>
>Take off the outer casing at the top (lots of screws, then unplug the
>cable to the status LEDs or control panel).
Yeah, I have done this repair on my Apple LW IINT once before... I will
most likey buy another kit for the HP when the fuser on it dies (it has a
nasty scar across it, and is starting to peel... it is still printing
fine with no adverse marks, but I suspect in a few months of decent use,
that will stop being the case)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>Whoa.... well, think of this as whole as a learning experience... an
>expensive one, but a learning experience nonetheless :-)
Well.. it really isn't too expensive... the printer only cost me $20
cash, and about an hour of my time... and the bonus is, by the time I
left, I found an employee that could really use a PC printer right in
their office, so they are getting the HP later this week.
So in the end all worked out well.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Does anyone have a good way to identify ICs made by TRW? I've searched
the net and found almost nothing. I'd like to id the LSICs shown in this
picture <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/trw/ics.jpg>. The smaller ones are
marked TRW 8429/AC 1016J5C8 and the bigger one is marked TRW TD1007J1.
The big one is very impressive looking (the pictures don't do it justice).
Not only due to it's size but it also has gold leads and a black anodized
heatsink with gold lettering epoxied(?) to the top of it and it just looks
impressive. These are on a Multibus card that was part of the same system
that had the Geometric Array Processors. I think this may have been part of
the I/O subsystem that passed data to and from the GAPP.
Joe
>Will the HPLJ2 board fit into the slot underneath the LW2NT?
>Does it have the same connector?
Humm... I didn't get that far as actually pulling the board.
Although, this whole printer has been one slap my head experience.
I had a printer die that was hooked up to an NT box to act as a network
print spooler (well, actually, the printer works fine, but it needs a new
drum and developer kit $200 for the pair, and that isn't worth it for
this printer).
So I bought the HP from the local salvation army store for $20. When I
tried to use it, it was failing to pickup the paper... a new pickup kit
is $30 (well worth it for the HP LJ2). But since I had the unused working
Apple LW IINT, I figured I could just swap the mobo so I can use the
parallel interface to reconnect to my NT spooler.
Well... head slap #1... I don't need to replace the pickup rollers... I
just needed to clean them, and use a little rubber rejuvenator... now it
picks up like a charm.
So I do the swap, get it all hooked up to my NT spooler, get everything
working... and head into the office of the only computer that matters
about printing to it... to find head slap #2...
I changed the PC to a Mac last week and totally forgot.... that means I
could have just used my Apple LW IINT with a quick and dirty LocalTalk
connection! I didn't need to go thru all this buying and fixing and
testing of the HP after all! (For the handful of PCs that also print to
the printer, I can let them use the NT spooler over a serial connection,
and just deal with the painfully slow print speed... the others only
print 5 or 6 times a year anyway).
So now, later this week... I will change the printer AGAIN, and go to the
Apple LW IINT over Localtalk (probably dedicate an old Mac with ethernet
to act as a Ethernet to Localtalk bridge).
But at least I have a working HP LJ 2 to use elsewhere.... now to find a
legal cassette tray for it.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Free stuff that isn't worth much!
Operational Franklin Ace 1000 computer - no drives.
Pick-up, or pay for delivery from Irvine, CA.
Steve.
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This weekend I picked up a HP 9915A computer (rackmount HP-85) with 2 HP-IB,
serial and BCD card. I've also got the manuals for the expansion cards and a
manual for a HP-85. I haven't got the tapes and the keyboard.
Does anyone have the pin-out for the connectors on the back? There is a
keyboard and a control (=com?) port on the back, but I don't know what I should
connect to those. I tried connecting a terminal to the serial card, but there
wasn't any output. It gives an error message on the composite video output, so
I guess the unit is working OK. And the last question, what are those
unlabelled keys on the front of the unit? Are these softkeys like on other Hp
equipment?
thanks,
Michiel
> I ended up with one awhile back, but it's missing the drive belts for the
> rollers. I'd be happy to try that trick out if someone knows where I can
> buy the belts for it.
A good place to start would be
http://www.ncspearson.com
-dq
I have been looking for a table top TU-58 with two drives
without success. Might anyone have the box for a TU58-FX
which does not work, but I may then be able to find the drives
separately?
