test-drb March 2002

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Configuring ULTRIX 4.x kernel (was: Re: VAX 6400 booting saga: SUCCESS!)

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Lord Isildur wrote: > as for configuring the kernel, it is pretty similar to the bsd convention. > i think in /usr/sys/conf/vax you find the config files, just take a > GENERIC and customize it.. the BINARY is the 'everything' kernel, meant > only to test to make sure everything there compiles properly, and then > just as in bsd, config <config file>, which leaves a directory > in /usr/sys/VAX named for the kernel you config'ed, and then in there > the usual make depend , make vmunix, and you're set. Well, yes except that it's binary only, which doesn't just work as expected. But I found out, /etc/doconfig is an interactive script that does all the magic for you. I hate to do this interactively, but at least it got me going. And it's a script, so it can be seen what it does (among others ln -s ing the BINARY/*.o files to MYKERNEL/.) But I noticed two other stange things: (1) The GENERIC kernel configuration is really neat, it just says things like (off the top of my head, don't blame me on detail errors) controller kdb50 at vaxbi? nexus? controller kdm70 at nexus? controller klesib1 at vaxbi? nexus? disk ra0 at mscp disk ra1 at mscp ... tape tms0 at mscp ... which indeed is very generic. On the other hand, the config file that doconfig builds for me is very different, having knowledge about every bit of bus, cables and unit numbers: controller kdb0 at vaxbi13 nexus3 controller uq4 at kdb50 disk ra8 at uq4 drive8 controller kdm70 at nexus11 controller uq24 at kdm70 vector uqintr disk ra0 at uq24 drive0 disk ra1 at uq24 drive1 ... controller klesib0 at vaxbi14 nexus3 controller uq22 at klesib0 vector uqintr tape tms0 at uq22 ... Why would I want to take the above kind of genericity away from and lock myself into a kernel that only works for a certain configuration of cards in slots, such that whenever I should swap a few cards, I have to boot from a reserve GENERIC kernel and rebuild? If ULTRIX can deal with "nexus?" "vaxbi?" and "mscp" kinds of generic designators, why would I, why would it want to use those overly specific ones? And what is 'uq' anyway? (2) The other little thing is that (a) ULTRIX is not Y2K complient: I haven't convinced date (or anything else) to accept a century for setting the clock and it insists on "02" being rounded up to 1970 :-). (b) I noticed the VAX 6000 has two or three AA batteries (rechargeables) in its console assembly, would they by any chance keep a real time clock running such that resetting the date isn't required all the time (yes I know about time and ntp but I don't have a reliably on machine at home nor a standing internet connection.) cheers, -Gunther - Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

22 years, 9 months

MV-II Diags & Customer Diags

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

FWIW, I have like 4 MVII diag tapes... Will J _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

22 years, 9 months

FREE STUFF (Austin, TX)

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got the following Sun VME boards. Free for pickup in Austin, TX; if you want me to ship any of them, you'll have to pay shipping and make it worth my while to pack them up, etc. 501 1767 - 4/6x0 memory board pic at http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/freestuff/tn/memoryboard.jpg.html 501 1855 - IPI controller (x4) 501 1221 - Comm Processor II 501 1203 - ALM-2 501 1217 - SCSI controller (3row DB50) (x2) pics at http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/freestuff/tn/vmeboards1.jpg.html And these non-Sun (I think) boards; ED5P182-30/G1 - FDDI? (has TX, RX) ED5P182-32/G1 SUN DKHS - FDDI? (has TX, RX) (x2) pics at http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/fddi/ I'm not going to toss them, but I do need them ALL out of the way. I've also got a Toshiba T3100 286 (I think) laptop with hard drive and 720K floppy and spiffy plasma orange screen. MUST PICKUP. WILL NOT SHIP. Makes a *great* serial terminal, because it has a REAL, full-travel keyboard. This is actually more of a "luggable"; it requires AC power. I'm asking $25 for this. pics: http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/laptop/ Oh - one other thing - have an 8-port DELNI AUI concentrator. Free. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

22 years, 9 months

Sony FDD MFD-17W-L5(MD-F17W-L5)

by seunggoo＠caltech.edu

I have Sony FDD named MFD-17W-L5(or MD-F17W-L5). It has black mounting panel and one selection switch that has 4 selections from 0 to 3. When the switch set 2, it works after booting. However, I cannot boot using this FDD. And the LED does not work during reading/writing. Please let me know how can I boot using this FDD and make LED run. My compuster is composed of super 7 M/B(PC-Chips M577) with AWADR BIOS, K6-233 CPU, and Windows 98se. Thanks...

22 years, 9 months

(fwd) cp/m-86 computers looking for a good home (fwd)

by donm＠cts.com

Please respond to drafter of email below - not to me. - don ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Message-ID: <3C963670.A59AE0AA(a)mentor.com> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:48:16 -0800 From: Keith Linehan <keith_linehan(a)mentor.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm CC: keith_linehan(a)mentor.com Subject: cp/m-86 computers looking for a good home Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: w35d157.wv.mentorg.com X-Original-Trace: 18 Mar 2002 10:48:20 -0800, w35d157.wv.mentorg.com Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: solnews.wv.mentorg.com X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: solnews.wv.mentorg.com X-Trace: newsgw.mentorg.com 1016477303 solnews.wv.mentorg.com (18 Mar 2002 10:48:23 -0800) Path: news20!uunet!ash.uu.net!dca.uu.net!newsgw.mentorg.com!solnews.wv.mentorg.co… Xref: news20 comp.os.cpm:47990 I am in the process of gathering together all of my old cp/m-86 stuff and am looking for a good home for it, or it must all end up at the recycler or dump. I am in the Portland Oregon area. I have 3 complete systems and many many extra parts that could keep them running until the next millenium. They are of around 1982 technology. The systems consist of: CPU Unit: Tektronix 4170's with 80186/87 processors, dual 5-1/4" floppies, dual 5 meg ST506 disk drives, and 1 meg of memory, many serial ports, and one parallel and SCSI port Source code for OS, and some source code available for other programs. Software for CAD, CAM, color drawing, and even some good graphic games. SuperCalc, Wordstar, DRgraph, ReportStar, Technicad, Kermit, C-Compiler, etc. All books for software and hardware available. Display Unit: Tektronix 4107 color graphics terminals Other Stuff: outboard disk drives in cabinets pen plotter graphic input tablet dot matrix printer Please let me know if there is any interest. Thanks, Keith Linehan keith_linehan(a)mentor.com -- end of forwarded message --

22 years, 9 months

MV-II Diags & Customer Diags

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I'll have to check... Hell, if people want me to, I'll post a list of all my DEC SW on TK50 to the list... Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

22 years, 9 months

ZX-TEAM meeting and Webcam

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 18, 11:27, Hans Franke wrote: > > [1] People who used ZX81s for robotics normally added a 6116 CMOS RAM (at > > least) onto the expansion connector and removed (or at least disabled) > > the power-hungry interal RAM. > > Wasn't the ZX81 board already prepared to use a 6116 instead ? Yes, it was. I put 6116's in several. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 9 months

List Managers reward. was Re: List Management - RESPONSE

by Gary.Messick＠itt.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Shannon [mailto:bshannon@tiac.net] > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 10:23 AM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: List Managers reward. was Re: List Management - RESPONSE > > > Perhaps List members can help the list manger out here. > > I'm located in centeral Mass, and I have a 6 foot DEC rack > with a PDP 11/34a > that has Jay's name on it. > > Any ideas how we might get this machine to Jay? > > I'm headed out to Boston over the holiday weekend with a full size van. I could get it back as far as Fort Wayne, IN. Let me know! Gary ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************

22 years, 9 months

VAX 6400 booting saga: SUCCESS!

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: John Allain <allain(a)panix.com> >Awrite, now, how does a person translate a geometry to >a DEC drive type? For that matter I don't know which TEST >it is, but either way I don't imagine that the formatter has a >help option... Does it? NO help I know of. It does ask for the parameters but not in RDxx equivelent form. >I have some here but I haven't tested them because there >was no monitor with them. I have some cables and monitors >for uVaxIIGPX and uV3100 but am not sure thay are compatible >and don't want to break anything. Its a DB25 phobia. Most >listers are aware of what problems can come from expecting >compatibility between any two randomly selected DB25 items >(like printing and SCSI, for example). A DEC cable number >would be useful here. Monitor not required. You can use it with a Vt220 or equivelent. the cable needed is BC09 (it has pin 9 connected to ground). That is a nine pin cable with a 25 pin connector at the other end. VS2k pinouts and other details are on the net, try google. Allison

22 years, 9 months

urgent business/investment deal

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] > want the job. There are too many god damned whiners on this list. Now that I can agree with. :) Let's all agree to stop whining about all of the spam now. (Sorry guys, I couldn't resist that one.) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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test-drb March 2002