> Rumor has it that Douglas Quebbeman may have mentioned these words:
> > -- and I said originally --
> >> I remember seeing greenbar, pinfed *bedsheets* a long time
> >> ago... I wonder if any company's still making them. ;-)
>
> >If not, someone has a lot of it in stock...
> >
> >I bought a brand new box of 20lb greenbar at Office Despot
> >in June 2001 for $38.00.
>
> I was really talking about the bedsheets - I think they'd be a cool part of
> 'retro dream-computing...' and might be quite rare nowadays...
I *caught* the bedsheet reference, and took it for metaphor...
metaphors be with you
> I have a color lazer with serial/parallel/ethernet ports, full Postscript 2
> capability, 2G SCSI hard drive, and 112Meg RAM - I can print from most any
> classic machine I have (some multiport, like my Tandy 200, can print on the
> serial & parallel interfaces... ;-) so actual greenbar paper isn't ezactly
> at the top of my list...
But how do you get 8.5x11 paper to fit in your DECwriter LA-120?
;)
-dq
> >I like this. And, how about "classiccmp designer toilet paper" with
> >ms , wicktel and other loathed entities' corporate imagery on
> >it? :-)
>
> Nah... too obvious. Just make it look like greenbar - that
> would be cool!
>
> I remember seeing greenbar, pinfed *bedsheets* a long time
> ago... I wonder if any company's still making them. ;-)
If not, someone has a lot of it in stock...
I bought a brand new box of 20lb greenbar at Office Despot
in June 2001 for $38.00.
-dq
From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
>But the MiniMINC I came across looked just like a PDT11/150.
>Approximately cubical, with 2 8" drives one on top of the other. I didn't
>have a chance to dismantle it, so I have no idea what the internals were
>like, but I'd be suprised if there were Qbus slots in it.
It's a plain PDT11/150, as a MINC it's useless as there are none of the
usual
lab IO items that made the larger QBUS ones useful. One exception is if
your systems talk via serial IO then it was a pretty useful box.
Now the PDT11/130 (same thing with TU58 instead of RX01 similar) could
be used the same way... I think not.
Allison
I've just got hold of a DEC MiniMINC - supposedly an LSI/11 woth 2 8"
floppy drives (I've not had a good look at it yet as I've spent all day
installing Solaris 8 on the SPARCstation 10 I picked up at the same time
;). Anyone have any more information about this beast?
Tim.
I've just been shown a load of HP 3000 and HP 1000 gear which
is about to be thrown out, located in Bristol (UK). This
list is approximately what's available:
HP 3000 Series II
7970 B Digital Tape Unit
7970 E Digital Tape Unit
Metier 50 Megabyte Data Storage Unit (disk)
HP 3000 Series III
97935 top loading disk drive
7970 E Digital Tape Unit
HP 1000 E-series computer "Artemis System"
12979 B I/O Extender
7906 Disk Drive
13037 Disk Controller
2648 A Graphics Terminal
2631 B Line Printer
unknown modem
2392 Terminal (qty 3)
Flexible disk drive for HP desktop calculator (qty 2)
Falco Terminal
91148 Floppy Disk Drive
Alignment packs for HP 7905/7906 disk drives
They want to clear out the storage space quite soon, and if
anybody wants any of it, we'll have to arrange something quite
quickly. Most of the computers are in 19-inch racks of about
5-foot (1.8metre) height, but some of them are double-width
racks. Basically, you'll need a van to move them!
Any takers?
--
John Honniball
coredump(a)gifford.co.uk
I grabbed this yesterday at goodwill. It looks like an
HP-IB/floppy-IDE interface, but I can't find any references.
HP model appears to be:
09L Rev C
09153-66511
or
2815
or
0TF0C07
or
RSWKC3
The card has a bulkhead plate w/ HP-IB connector, address dial switch
0-9, and configuration dial switch 0-9.
PCB itself is about 10" by 3" with a 1.5" by 3" cutout. There is a
34-pin male and a 40-pin male header and dip switches:
TEST <--> NORM
B <--> C
30/40 <--> 10/20
BOTH <
10/30 <--> 20/40
NO FLOPPY <--> FLOPPY
What is it?
Doc
From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
>>
>> I've just got hold of a DEC MiniMINC - supposedly an LSI/11 woth 2 8"
>> floppy drives (I've not had a good look at it yet as I've spent all day
>> installing Solaris 8 on the SPARCstation 10 I picked up at the same time
>> ;). Anyone have any more information about this beast?
>
>If it's the machine I think it is, it's closely related to the PDT11/150.
>There is an LSI11 in there, but with some odd (by PDP11 standards)
>peripherals.
Nope, It's an LSI-11/02 Qbus machine woith a small cage and rack
and RX01(maybe an 02). You need Qbus for the varions analog IO
and digitial IO cards.
>I am not sure how the miniMINC differes from a PDT11/150. By rights, the
>miniMINC should have some kind of 'lab' I/O (ADC, etc), but I have no
>details of that.
The PDT11/150 has no user bus and the oly IO is serial. It is however
the same LSI-11 chip set but no provision for the EIS/FIS. Yes, I know
you can piggy back one of the microms to do that but the board only
has 4 40 pin sockets that are filled where the LSI-11/03 Qbus board has 5.
Allison
> From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
> Is there a Linux port for the ZX81?
No, it doesn't even have a serial port (yuk yuk).
If you'd like to turn your favorite 486 into a ZX81 there are ZX81
emulators for Linux, but to my knowledge no one has even entertained the
idea of doing some flavor of Unix on ZX81 hardware.
Hmm, now thatcha mention it, Linux makes more sense than Windows or GEM,
CP/M's already been done, VMS ain't happening here, and I *really* don't
want to port MS-DOS ;>)
Glen
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> From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
> That's true but I think they just enjoy seeing who can hang the most
> stuff off of a ZX81. Sort of like the guys that see who can put the
biggest
> engine inside a Chevy Vega!
After considering this, I think you've hit the nail on the head, Joe,
except that the only thing we don't change is the engine! The Z80, ROM and
ULA *have* to be present!
Our goals seem to be:
1 -- Build an interface for every device under the sun, including the
toilet seat.
2 -- Write software to perform every task ever performed by any computer
anywhere. The software should be 100% Z80 machine code and should push the
ZX81 as hard as possible.
3 -- Do all of the above for US $25 or less.
I hope everyone has as much fun with their old computers as I have with
mine!
Glen
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Quothe Joseph.Pollizzi(a)encompassus.org, from writings of Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:45:49PM -0600:
> Hewlett-Packard and Compaq Computer Corporation have announced that they
> both believe that they have enough shareholder votes to approve the merger.
DEC's destruction began when DEC was palmerized into a ghost of it's
former self and sold into slavery to Microsoft. Then much damage to
this once great computer company, DEC, was done by Compaq (a wannabe
computer company that never made real computers, and destroyed an
acquisition, DEC, that did), and, now, this appears to be little more
than the nails being hammered into the coffin of what was once Digital
Equipment Corporation.
R.D.D.
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