test-drb February 2002

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by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 21:24:22 +0000 jpero(a)sympatico.ca writes: > The biggest ESDI HD I have currently; 1.3GB and second biggest is > 800MB (working w/ ultrastor U24F. Problem is with that Micropolis > 1.3GB ESDI I couldn't get it LLF'ed w/ Ultrastor U24F, I think > something is not set right despite that card supports 2048 cyls. > Help? This is the single biggest problem (that I've seen) with ESDI drives over 800MB: These suckers run with a 24MHz data rate. There are only two ISA controllers (that I know of) that can handle these: The WD-1009, and the Ultrastor 12F-24. I purchased a WD-1009 over the holidays, but haven't had the opportunity to test it. There are two versions of the WD-1009: One with a BIOS and one without. The ones without are utterly *worthless* (unless you're using it in a Compaq DeskPro that supports it). I don't even want to talk about the 12F-24. These things are so rare, I've seen maybe one or perhaps two offered on E-Pay in the past four years. Q-Bus 24MHz controllers are far more common, but troublesome to obtain nonetheless. I was extremely surprised that ESDI's are still being made (albeit for 'commercial' applications). Jeff ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

24 years, 1 month

SUN SCSI vs non-SUN?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 3, Russ Blakeman wrote: > I was basically making sure that Sun SCSI was usable in other SCSI > applications, that they hadn't made them proprietary in some way. Nope, you're in the clear there. Sun's SCSI is very much standard, ordinary SCSI, and Sun systems have no [unimagined] unusual requirements for their SCSI drives. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 1 month

Mac IIsi vs. IIci

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>It is, in fact, just a PDS slot. :-) Like all PDS slots, it is specific >to its model. > >Unlike the various PDS-slot-only Macs, since the IIci has plenty of NuBus >slots, the only things made for the IIci PDS are the cache cards and >processor upgrades (well, that I've ever seen). Ok... then it isn't a "PDS" slot in the generally sold PDS slot card world sense. Generally, an unspecified PDS slot refers to an LC PDS slot, otherwise it usually specifies that it is an SE PDS, a whatever PDS. (but that is a "generally" concept so when buying a PDS card, it is always good make sure it will work with the machine you have in mind) With that in mind, I would not count on the IIci as having a PDS slot, simply because it will be unlikely to find anything other than a cache card that fits it. At least if it was a more standard LC PDS, you could toss an ethernet card in there, keeping all 3 NuBus free for use. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 1 month

eBay: WOW L@@K R4R3 (no, really)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 3, Mike wrote: > > I almost soiled my pants when I saw this. I am not affiliated with the > > seller. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2000676134 > > Warning. There may be some legal entanglements here. This seller (Jerry > Williams) agreed to sell me these systems over negotiations last week and, > asked me to send in a deposit check which I did, and since then I have not > been able to get any response from him. 2 days later, he starts this > auction. I'm about to contact Ebay's Fraud unit and any other fly ointment > I might be able apply. That dickhead... Heh, you too, huh? I had a deal with him last week ("deal" meaning I had already written him a check and was waiting for him to email me his mailing address), then he asked me if I could give him more $$$ because he was getting other offers. I am REALLY pissed off at this asshole. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 1 month

SUN SCSI vs non-SUN?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 2, Russ Blakeman wrote: > Here's a question for you SUn people - if I have a HP/Seagate ST19171WC SCA > hard drive in my server and found some drives that are Sun/Seagate ST19171WC > SCA drives, is there anything different int he Sun, ie they should work in > my HP server despite them being made for Sun by Seagate right? Just checking > and I'm guessing that they are exactly the same just labeled for the OEM by > Seagate and the firmware showing either HP or Sun when they show up in > various HD utilities. > > Thanks in advance for the help, I'm just making sure I didn't do too much > acid in the 60's (no wait I was only 13 in 69...that doesn't work) That whole "standard interfaces" thing makes this easy...just plug it in and all should be well. Some vendors (Auspex comes to mind) use custom firmware but I've never seen it make the drive incompatible with something else that speaks standard SCSI. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 1 month

Multitech/Acer/Flite Micro-Professor MPF-1B manuals WTD

by philpem＠btinternet.com

Hi, After a very kind person (thanks Lee) sent me a copy of the schematics for the Multitech MPF-1B, I've managed to make a rudimentary (but realistic) MPF-1B emulator. Only problem now is, I can't test all the features because I don't have a manual! Could someone please scan the manual set for the Multitech/Acer (sold by Flite Electronics in the UK) Micro-Professor MPF-1 (not the MPF-1 Plus, that's a different machine altogether - the MPF-1B has 6x 7-segment red LED displays, the MPF-1 Plus has a green VFD display) or MPF-1B? Thanks. -- Phil. philpem(a)bigfoot.com http://www.philpem.btinternet.co.uk/

24 years, 1 month

SUN SCSI vs non-SUN?

by rhblakeman＠kih.net

Here's a question for you SUn people - if I have a HP/Seagate ST19171WC SCA hard drive in my server and found some drives that are Sun/Seagate ST19171WC SCA drives, is there anything different int he Sun, ie they should work in my HP server despite them being made for Sun by Seagate right? Just checking and I'm guessing that they are exactly the same just labeled for the OEM by Seagate and the firmware showing either HP or Sun when they show up in various HD utilities. Thanks in advance for the help, I'm just making sure I didn't do too much acid in the 60's (no wait I was only 13 in 69...that doesn't work)

24 years, 1 month

paging Daniel Seagraves

by dpeschel＠eskimo.com

Daniel, I sent mail to your TOAD acount and I was wondering if you got it. Or if you could take a look at the "any tools for analyzing PDP-10 code?" thread on CLASSICCMP, that amounts to the same thing. Thanks, -- Derek

24 years, 1 month

Large ESDI Disks

by ken＠seefried.com

From: Julius Sridhar <vance(a)ikickass.org> > >There are still ESDI disks being made. I think the biggest one >right now is 3.04 GB. > Who makes them? Ken

24 years, 1 month

Maybe OT: Network ethics

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 2, Jeff Hellige wrote: > > I guess my opinion, which isn't very popular here, is that unless > >permission has been explicitly given, one should not assume permission > >to a local LAN, or internet access through the LAN. I do recognize that > >my position is due to working frequently at secured sites. One such > >facility, in San Antonio, prohibits ANY access to their network by > >non-employees. Contractors must tell a technician what commands to > >enter, and which buttons to click. > > I agree with the above. Nobody should ever just assume it is > ok to do whatever they wish on somebody elses network withouth > getting explicit permission first. I have similar problems with > contractors in a similar secure building. If for no other reason > than it is bad etiquette to impose yourself into someone elses area > without permission to do so. However, the admin must assume that someone WILL just walk in and do whatever they wish, when the admin least expects it...some people do it because they're assholes, some just do it without thinking because they weren't raised to have any manners. One must strive to make the network resilient to such crap. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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test-drb February 2002