At 05:46 PM 2/10/02 -0500, you wrote:
>On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Doc Shipley wrote:
>
>> Hey.
>> Along the lines of last week's "specialty" thread, I'm kind of curious
>> where the various members (including and especially lurkers) live.
>> Maybe more to the point, where our various machines and parts dumps
>> reside....
>
>Yeah, that sounds like a good/useful idea. I'd be willing to do some work
>on setting this up. I could even host the database... right now, using
>a server on Purdue's campus.
>
>> I've managed so far never to touch a database, but this strikes me as
>> an interesting-enough and simple-enough first project. I'm interested
>> in listing and correlating several things:
>
>The last time I've really played with a database was back in Windows 3.1
>days with Microsoft Access. However, I know people that know what they're
>doing and could assist me ;). [I'd propose a system set up on a Linux
>server, not Windows of course.]
Linux, bah! Set it up on a 64k floppy drive only CPM system using DBase
version 1.
Joe
I seem to remember reading that "Ashton" was Tate's
pet parrot. . . .
On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 18:04:58 -0800 (PST) "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)"
<cisin(a)xenosoft.com> writes:
> On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Jeff Hellige wrote:
> > The Ashton-Tate product started with dBase II...there
> never
> > was a version 1. Myself, I always preferred Rbase.
>
> There also wasn't an "Ashton" in "Ashton-Tate". George Tate just
> though
> that publisher names like Prentice-Hall and McGrah-Hill sounded
> neat.
>
>
> He was once asked what the best moment of his career was. He
> replied that
> it was building a radio controlled blimp to use for advertising
> inside
> Comdex. He was then asked about the worst. "finding out that we
> couldn't
> use the blimp in Comdex"
>
>
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My online PDP-8 is hung off the parallel port. If you use the iopl call
to set privlages to do raw IO port reads and writes (must be root) then
you can directly talk to the parallel port with inb and outb from a user
program. I use the 1284 mode stuff which is probably more trouble than
it is worth.
>From what I remember the control signals are either input or output, the
outputs can all be controlled by the PC and I think read. The data lines
can be bidirectional.
If you want it I can send you the source for my parallel port I/O routines,
email me. Also you can email if you have questions and see how much I
remember. For the simpler modes the stuff I found online a couple years
ago was pretty good. I don't seem to have any at hand but can dig them
up if you haven't found anything good.
David Gesswein
http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computer with blinkenlights.
Ah, yet another valuable application of E-Bay: Spamcop.
Cool. Why didn't I think of that?
On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 14:47:33 -0600 (CST) Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> writes:
> Don't get me wrong; I do a lot of after-auction business with
> resellers I found on eBay.
> What I don't like is a business/person who refuses to sell the
> item to
> a high bidder that didn't meet reserve (entirely reasonable), offer
> to
> sell the item off-eBay at retail or higher (still acceptable, if
> irritating), and then *continue* to offer me high-priced crap by
> email
> after I've requested to be taken off their list.
> That's when I complain to ebay.
>
> Doc
>
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On Feb 10, 15:21, Tony Duell wrote:
> > It's a pain to make proper AUI cables, but if they're short, you can
use
>
> But IMHO less of a pain than tracing faults cause by so-called AUI cables
> that are nothing of the sort!
<grin> No other comment neccessary or desired.
> > lower-quality cable. It's multiple coax inside. You should be able to
>
> Is it? The drop cable I got was 4 twisted pairs. A thicker one for the
> power connections and 3 more for the Tx, Rx, Collision pairs. With an
> overall foil screen.
Hmm... I was about to say that's one of the cheaper office-type cables.
I'd forgotten that the cables are actually four individually screened
twisted pairs plus a pair for power. But if yours is only a single overall
screen, then it's not full-spec AUI, which is thick, about 1cm diameter or
a little more, very unwieldy, and bright blue. Not that it matters if it
works -- the only difference between office-rated cables and the full-spec
ones is that the office-spec is limited to a maximum of 12m (possibly less
for some makes) while the full-spec is rated to 50m. It does mean that for
some applications, office-spec won't do; for example if you use an AUI
concentrator (the best-known being a DELNI) that isn't a repeater and it
has an equivalent cable length which is quite long (15m ?), so you have to
be careful about the length of office cables you attach to it.
> Finding the proper cable in short lengths (i.e. not a 100m reel) is the
> hard part. Soldering up the DA15 connectors is pretty easy.
The best way is to find a long blue AUI cable and cut it up. For some
reason, I find long ones are more common than short ones.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hi people. I am in need of an RS/6000 keyboard. I need it soon, though.
It doesn't have to be a permanent arrangement (like a sale or something),
it just needs to be a loaner. I am in St. Petersburg, FL at Dave
McGuire's place.
Peace... Sridhar
On Feb 10, 10:10, Robert Schaefer wrote:
> From: "Pete Turnbull" <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com>
> > It's a pain to make proper AUI cables, but if they're short, you can
use
> > lower-quality cable. It's multiple coax inside. You should be able to
> > find the pinout easily enough on the 'net, eg
>
> I was wondering, because ISTR the conventional wisdom on cat5 patch cords
is
> to purchase 'em new-- more cost-effective than making & testing 'em
> in-house.
Yes, except if you can get the cable, (or cannibalise a very long one) it
might be cheaper to make your own AUI.
> The longest one I need is ~2m and the shortest would be ~.5m depending on
> how flexable the cabling is. Is there a shortest allowed length?
No, you can connect the transceiver directly to the computer's AUI socket
without any cable at all, providing there's room, you can get at the latch,
and it doesn't impose too much mechanical strain.
> My wife just asked for a cable modem, so network stuff
> seems a lot more interesting all of a sudden!
Don't hesitate!
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
PS -
Forgot to mention... the family's about to grow by one. I just forked out
for a 5363 little sibling to the 5362. My flat's turning into an IBM
orphanage.
YES!!!! SCORE!!!!!!!
Colin Eby
Senior Consultant
CSC Consulting
Hi again folks,
I'm back again for a frantic weekend of chores and housework before heading
back out on the the road doing this roadwarrior/consulting gig. Between
laundrymat runs I'm trying to push forward with this 5362 project. To date,
I've gotten it to IPL consistantly, read a diskette and go into diagnostic
mode. I've dug up some diskettes for it -- and may in fact have the SSP
here now -- that's what the labels say, but I can't confirm it. The only
problem is even the SSP diskettes appear to be password protected. I don't
yet have installation documentation for the beast. So I'm not sure what the
initial password would be. The SSP diskettes use an account called SYSSSP.
Does anyone know what the default password for that would be?
I'm also working on some password cracking information I found, to try and
recover the existing installation. The only problem is I don't yet have a
working diagnostic diskette, and the disk doesn't have the right routines
installed anymore.
Meanwhile, Al Kossow, has been slaving over a hot scanner with some 5360
maintenance docs. I'm working on a PDF version of those docs. With luck and
a fast spin-dryer at the laundrette, I hope to have them finished in the
next week or so. There's a buttload of them, so this is taking a while --
I'm setting up bookmarked TOCs to make them manageable/navigable. I'm doing
the same with the few pieces I have from my own system.
A number of other list members are trying to help me out -- and I thank
everyone for their assistance. You'all know who you is.
Colin Eby
Senior Consultant
CSC Consulting
