Seems like they finally figured out how to read that BBC Domesday disk:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2534391.stm
What I want to know is how they used "software emulation" to "read" the
disc. There had to be some hardware involved somewhere.
Anyone have the full story?
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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On Dec 2, 20:10, Lawrence Walker wrote:
> This has come up many times before and if it was true we would all
> be receiving the same spam. Most of my spam lately has been from
> people promoting how you can make millions of dollars on the i-net
> if I just send $25 to this person who must have time enough from
> making MILLIONS to spam others for 25 bucks, or the African
> government scam where if I will allow them to use my acount I can
> share in the MILLIONS secreted in an African account. Haven't even
> got one lately from the Viagra people promising a new day if only I
> try thier penile assistance, or SEXY NUDE TEENS ,awaiting my
> perusal at a minimal fee.
That's exactly what mine has been like lately. I wonder if that matches
Fred's?
> Newsgroups or websites are still rich areas to harvest and I don't
> think we are a big enough source to glean, as yet.
"Big enough" has nothing to do with it. If you do a Google search for
"mailing list", classiccmp archives are amongst the hits, and therefore
easy to trawl.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
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Hi
The Beehive was one of the best terminals I'd ever used.
The one that Intel used ( and painted Intel blue ), used
Cherry Hall effect switches for the keyboards. I only saw
one of these switches go bad and that was because the
keyboard had a heavy object dropped on it ( drive box ).
It broke the ceramic that the Hall effect device was on.
This keyboard had the best feel of any keyboard that
I'd used before or since( around '80 ).
How may out there have problems with other mechanical
keyboards ( I know I have a few flaky ones ) and wish
they'd used the robust Hall effect keys?
Dwight
>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
>Dan,
>
> I found a NIB Beehive terminal a couple of years ago and I couldn't even
give it away. I finally tossed it in the trash.
>
> Joe
>
>At 06:51 PM 11/30/02 -0500, you wrote:
>>While looking for old floppy disks I came across a couple
>>of manuals:
>>
>>Reference Manual for Beehive Terminals, Models I, II and III (1972)
>>
>>and
>>
>>Operator Manual OCLC Model 100 Computer Terminal (1974)
>>
>>If anyone needs any information from either of these manuals,
>>drop me a line off-list.
>>
>>I'd also be interested in hearing from anyone who might have
>>a Beehive terminal, since they look pretty interesting (if you
>>have an interest in old computer terminals, as I do).
>>
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Dan
>>http://www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html
>>
>>
>
>
>
>From: "gijs kantoor" <gijs.meirmans(a)financial-plaza.nl>
>
>I am looking for an old Intel unit, the IUP 200/201 universal prom
>programmer, with software, and information how to use. I have the IUP-F87/51
>module and userguide, and a folder of the IUP-200/201 but not the programmer
>it self.
>
>Gijs Meirmans
>The Netherlands
>
>
Hi Gilis
I don't recall if the UPP also needed a special programmer
card for the 51's. I know that things like the 8748's required
both a special card and an adapter like you have.
I have one of these programmers but it isn't for sale.
The use of these is quite simple if you have a Intel development
system to plug it into. Most of the software to program things
was either built into the monitor ROM's or available through
the update OS.
One can make an adapter cable and run the programmer from
a bi-directional parallel port of a PC. Most of the control
sequences were simple.
When I worked for Intel ( years ago ), I was responsible
for the developing the test for the newer personality cards
that Intel made for this programmer. It was funny, Intel was
one of the last customers for the 4001 ROM's used on these
boards. I remember when they got the notice from the fabs
that they needed to make their last end of life purchases.
This was the death notice for this product.
I'd made a special board to test the products. It was
what I called a "4040 slow time ice". The 4040 bus is dynamic
and needs a continuous clock. I ran things from code on
a Series II. I would use the board to checkout things
like the programming drive signals and the data in the ROM's.
It saved quite a bit of time in trouble shooting these boards.
It was funny that I had requested the data in the ROM's for
test purposes and was told that it was too proprietary
( remember, these were obsolete 4040 systems we are talking
about, even then ). I just copied known good boards and used
them. They were always changing the numbers on the packages
for boards like the 2716's. Having the code inside made it
a lot easier to check that they'd plugged the right ones
in. One still had to watch for upgraded software but when
a lot came in with 100% fails and the code was different,
it didn't take long to figure what needed to be replaced.
Dwight
10 years ago, I was at Cray Research. We did trade shows over the internet
(might have been ARPA back then). Show booths had 3D SGI workstations,
connected to the net by T1 links. Simulations ran in parallel --
visualization on the workstation, and number-crunching on the big iron at
Cray (MN/WI).
Pretty cool for the time. Run a remote
car-crash/fluid-flow/electromagnetic/... simulation on the cray (which ran
a flavor of unix), then see the results moments later over the net.
gil
>Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 10:34:02 -0800 (PST)
>From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com>
>Subject: The internet 10 years ago (was Re: Selling it off. What would you
keep ?)
>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>
>
>--- Peter Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 30, 17:57, Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
>> > > > I just wish the internet was around 10 years ago.
>> > >
>> > > Fortunately, it was.
>> > Well, yes, but not everywhere, and _certainly_ not for everyone.
>>
>> By the late '80's it covered most of Western Europe and the States
>> including non-academic sites. CIX (Compulink Information Exchange) was
>> founded in 1987, and Demon Internet in June 1992, both offering public
>> services in the UK. Demon charged UKP10/month for dialup access.
>
>10 years ago, I was doing Usenet and email through my Amiga (with two
>ST225s and a PC-XT disk controller!) with UUCP. I couldn't do ftp
>and telnet and cool stuff like that, but I could at least get a few
>newsgroups like comp.sources.amiga and rec.humor.funny delivered to my
>door.
>
>2400 bps, 20 MB news spool! Those were the days. Not.
>
>-ethan
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In a message dated 12/1/02 1:46:41 PM Pacific Standard Time,
rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com writes:
> The 310/330 are white boxs that are about the a size of a PC chassis. The
> 86/330 is an aluminium/steel chassis that's 16" tall x 16" wide x 24" deep.
> The ones that I had had 8" floppy drives and 8" hard drives, the 310/330
> use 5 1/4" floppy drives and have an optional 5 1/4"(?) hard drive. The
> 86/330 used an 8086 CPU, the 310/330 use 286s IIRC.
>
>
The Intel 310 is a desktop similar to a PC that uses any multibus 1
processor, 8080 to 80286. Actually I think it will run the Multibus 1 386
card too. It has a 6 slot Multibus chassis and uses 5 1/4 Hard and floppy
drives.
The 330 and 380s are the 16"X16"X24 white aluminum boxes. The 330 has a 6
slot Multibus card chassis combined with a 8" Floppy and 8" hard drive,
usually a Priam 3450 35 meg drive.
The 380 is a two 16"X16"X24 box set that is a 14 slot Multibus 1 backplane in
one of the boxes and the drives in a separate nearly identical cabinet,
usually housing a 1/4" tape drive along with the 8" floppy and 8 inch hard
drive.
Both the 330s and 380s will handle any Multibus CPU card from the 8080 to the
386. In fact the 380 can run multiple CPU cards.
86/330 indicates an 8086 card in a 330 cabinet.
The Intel 320 cabinet is a desktop with a Multibus II backplane that uses 5
1/4' drives. I don't have one of these.
I am going to sort this stuff out this winter & will catalog the docs then.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
>From: Witchy <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On
>> Behalf Of Peter Turnbull
>> Sent: 26 November 2002 08:11
>> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>> Subject: Re: Superb Exidy System on Ebay in Holland
>>
>>
>> On Nov 25, 21:28, Curt Vendel wrote:
>> > Anybody who is into this system should check it this auction I found on
>> > Ebay:
>> >
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=2
>> 074514971
>> >
>> > The guy also has some nice Commodore stuff, a Sony (MSX?)
>> System and some
>> > other cool stuff too.
>>
>> The coolest item there, for me, is his Jupiter Ace. For those who don't
>> know, it's a FORTH machine, and fairly rare. It's based on a Sinclair
>> ZX81, and named after the Pilot ACE computer built in 1950 at the National
>> Physical Laboratory.
>
>Not strictly true; it was designed by Richard Altwasser (hardware) and
>Steven Vickers (ROMs) after they'd left Sinclair and formed Jupiter Cantab;
>both had previously worked with the ZX80 (Richard) and 81 (Richard/Steven)
>and I think Steven also wrote some of the firmware for the Spectrum. It's
>design is more ZX80 than 81 in that it's a single board machine with the
>membrane keyboard incorporated on the mainboard.
>I don't think there were any differences between the Ace and the Ace 4000,
>though I'm sure US ones had a slightly modified case in that it had an extra
>'bump' in it!
>
>It's typical that all that stuff comes up when I don't have a job - I'd have
>all of it :)
>
Hi
The main difference between the US and European Ace was that
the US one was slower and had a different divider circuit for
the video ( slower because of the crystal used to get video
right ). I have a US version but know people that have the
European version as well.
Dwight
