test-drb December 2002

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OT: Re: Interesting Tim O'Reilly article.

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 13, 11:12, David Woyciesjes wrote: > Sellam Ismail wrote: > I'm like Sellam here. I have bought quite a few CDs, based on hearing a > song or two from the album via Napster. > Granted, I'm one of those people who look for that album in the used > rack first, before resorting to a buying new copy. It is a form of > recycling; but I wonder what exactly do the record labels think of me > for that? > I also believe that new audio CDs are still overpriced. Doesn't stop me > from buying one, though, if I can't find a used copy. If *you* think they're overpriced... I just bought two today, for presents. UKP13.99 each, which is just over $22 according to the Universal Currency Converter. Yet when I look at my colleagues at work listening to CDs, I see they spend part of the time listening to MP3s, and about half (I guess) to CDs. Of the CDs, nearly all are original shop-bought, not CD-R copies. They have the technology, so that's not why they don't copy stuff. There's a difference in quality, and in reliability/robustness, and you don't get the sleeve notes and graphics with a copy. The students I see seem to do the same. I don't believe the hype or the wailing and moaning >from the music companies. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 7 months

Televideo 901 was Re: New finds this week / Cheap to a good home

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 11:16 AM 12/13/02 -0500, Pat wrote: >I managed to get a few fun things to play with this week - courtesy of >Purdue University Salvage/Surplus > >** Finds ** > >Lear-Sigler AMD-3A+ **actually working** (compared to my ADM-5) $free Speaking of LS terminals. I spotted a Televideo 901 last week. It looked like a Lear Sigler ADM (something). Does anyone know if it was built by LS? Joe

21 years, 7 months

The Ne[w|utered] HP / Agilent

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

Their current 16700 series LA mainframes (I have one) still run HPUX 10.20 on a PA-RISC CPU with all of the network capabilities of HPUX. I think some things are disabled by default, but you can boot single user mode and reconfigure things if you really want to. I agree that I wouldn't want Windows 9x running on an instrument like this, but Windows 2000 might not be too bad, as Tek runs on some of their current LA mainframes. >From: "Eric Smith" <eric(a)brouhaha.com> >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Re: The Ne[w|utered] HP (was: RE: The effects of employment) >Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:31:25 -0800 (PST) > >My biggest gripe with Agilent is that their recent instruments such >as the Infinium series oscilliscopes run Windows. I don't use the >things myself, but I've heard horror stories from friends using them. >It's a shame that they didn't use Linux, or xBSD. Some of their >earlier instruments such as logic analyzers actually acted as NFS >and X clients, but the networking capabilities of Windows are a huge >step backwards. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

21 years, 7 months

Interesting Tim O\'Reilly article.

by classiccmp＠crash.com

[ Trying to put some classiccmp spin on the discussion... ] > Imagine General Motors, Ford, Toyota or any other car maker > wanting a cut of the money if you sell your old car to some- > body else instead of just dropping it into the next landfill. This reminds me of my biggest complaint about several commercial Unix offerings in the early 90's - user licensing. "Excuse me, I can only have X users on my Vax/Alpha?" Alright, maybe some other non-Unix OSes as well ;^) The analogy was always to Ford/GM saying, "Yes, you bought our biggest van with the third row seat, but you may only use the the front two bucket seats until you pay us Y dollars per year." Definitely led me to move to systems that didn't have such silly encumbrances. --Steve.

21 years, 7 months

Fwd: Hermes 51

by jss＠subatomix.com

Please direct replies to Lynda, not me. ---------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: Lynda Pieper <lcpieper(a)hotmail.com> To: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org Date: Sunday, December 8, 2002, 4:19:41 PM Subject: Hermes 51 I came across your website looking for "Hermes 51", which is a 1984 dedicated word processor. Since your site is now under construction, I wanted to know if you know of anyone who would be interested in buying the Hermes 51. I have not used it since I got my 286 computer in 1987. Everything for the Hermes is intact, including diskettes. If you know of anyone or any place interested in this word processing, please let me know. The Hermes was an electronic typewriter with internal memory and an LED to show about 20 characters at a time as you typed, plus an external video unit (with about a 12" screen) which used the small diskettes for storage. I have ribbons, daisy-wheel fonts, diskettes, etc. It should still work... I used it for only three years on a part-time basis. Please e-mail me with a "yea" or a "nay". Thanks. L. Pieper lcpieper(a)hotmail.com ---------- End forwarded message ---------- -- Jeffrey Sharp

21 years, 7 months

Interesting Tim O'Reilly article.

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

And, though the US carries a pretty big stick, the rest of the world doesn't necessarily follow the US direction on the DCMA and the new Mickey Mouse copyright laws. Bob -----Original Message----- From: John Allain [mailto:allain@panix.com] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:37 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Re: Interesting Tim O'Reilly article. > Reverse engineering itself is not a crime. Agree, but... The whole notion of what crimes are with a Software entity is too nebulous. That's why the the Son-of-a-Lawyer has made so much money testing the boundaries of Pseudo law, and winning. This is a new industry and things haven't totally jelled yet. John A.

21 years, 7 months

Interesting Tim O'Reilly article.

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

> On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Brian Chase wrote: > > > on his actions. Now, the MPAA folks say that reverse > engineering their > > lousy CSS encryption is a crime. I think that's absurd, > and I'm really > > surprised that /anyone/ on /this/ list would agree with the > idea that > > reverse engineering something is, in itself, a criminal act. > > I have to second that. Me too. Reverse engineering itsef is not a crime.. what you )can( do with the )results( _could_ be a crime. --fred

21 years, 7 months

GenRad tester

by Qstieee＠aol.com

I believe someone asked about this in the last few weeks, but I didn't save the message. E-mail trestivo(a)concentric.net, he services them. See www.tarinc.com

21 years, 7 months

WinPort LaserJet Accelerator Card

by dwoyciesjes＠comcast.net

I picked up one of these yesterday for $25. And it still has the original retail sticker, of $99.99 on it. :) Turns out, it is unused even! the two cards and 5 1/4 floppy envelopes are still sealed... Anyway, to my point. I plan on using it in the docking station of my Thinkpad 760EL (running Win98), plugged into a DecLaser 2100 plus. IIRC, the DecLaser 2100 is just a HP LaserJet II with different plastic body panels, right? I has a 16 bit ISA card to go in the PC, and an adapter card that goes in the Optional I/O slot of the printer. It also keeps the normal parallel printer cable in place, for regular operational mode. Now, the manual only mentions Win3.1; not even NT 3.5. Has anyone tried this under Win98? How about NT4? And how about sharing it over the network? Hopefully I'll get the time to set it up and try it today. First, I have to dig out that little Digital 486 I have sitting around to transfer the drivers to 3 1/2 floppy! Seeing the 5 1/4 floppy was a bit of a surprise... Thinking out loud... I wonder if I'll end up having to turn that desktop 486 into a Win3.11 print server? :) Hmmm, would Solaris or NetBSD know what to do with it? -- ---Dave Woyciesjes ---ICQ# 905818

21 years, 7 months

Value of VAX ?

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Hey All, Just a slightly offtopic one here. What should I be paying for a used VAX 4000, 128MB, with an extra 128MB as spare? Machine looks good, and comes with two BA440's (one with the machine, and the second one for extended storage.) Pse reply *off-list* - enough offtopic clutter as-is already :) Thanks, Fred

21 years, 7 months

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test-drb December 2002