test-drb January 2002

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by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

finally got a bootable disk, and my $10 wonder does work, and rather well at that. Now all I need are a 5.25" disk and a 3.5" disk drive that will work with it, and I'll be happy as a worm in a . . . well, er, Apple. Still reading about old VW's and old Ford tractors here on the list, rather than stuff more apropos to the subject. 'Nuff said about both items, now let's get back to 8 bit machines and VAXen. Gary Hildebrand

24 years, 1 month

Security bits

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

bummer, none of them are the right bit for N64 :( it looks kinda like an inverst Torx, I was told it's a "television" bit?!?! At 10:16 PM 1/22/02 -0500, you wrote: >If anyone wants to see what the Radio Shack set of security bits looks >like, I put a scan of them at > >http://orchard.washtenaw.cc.mi.us/~paul/SECBITS.JPG > >Paul R. Santa-Maria >Monroe, Michigan USA

24 years, 1 month

VAXstation newbie

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ethan Dicks [mailto:erd_6502@yahoo.com] > Sent: 22 January 2002 17:18 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: VAXstation newbie > > I have VMS 5.0 on RX50 diskettes. We had a MicroVAX-I that we bought > new at work ($10,000) and another that we bought shortly > thereafter and > upgraded to a MicroVAX-II ($17,000 for hardware and VMS > license upgrade). > We continued to receive MicroVMS and VMS distributions on floppy until > some point after 5.0, when DEC switched us to TK50 (good > thing, too... the > RX50 distro is a wad of disks). Gods; I thought installing/upgrading from TK50 was bad enough, but floppies? Eek. I remember the first time I watched an install from CD though - wow! :) That must've been around 5.4 or 5.5..... a

24 years, 1 month

Osborne 1 on EBay

by vaxman＠earthlink.net

Anybody else see it? I'm tempted, but my house is alread full of VAXen... clint

24 years, 1 month

Here I Am

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 23, Eric Dittman wrote: > > > This sucks!!! Something you might want to consider is using OpenBSD for > > > your server. I've been using Linux for over 10 years now, and while I think > > > it's a pretty good desktop OS, and OK as a server, if I want a stable secure > > > server I'll use OpenBSD! Of course OpenBSD sucks in that it doesn't support > > > multiprocessor systems! > > > > That's why you go with NetBSD. > > I seem to remember the difference between NetBSD and FreeBSD > was NetBSD's goal was to run on anything, while FreeBSD's goal > was to run on x86 systems. Has that changed? Sorta. The FreeBSD evangelists started trying to port to other architectures some time ago. Sun funded their UltraSPARC port if memory serves, because some suit at Sun had heard of FreeBSD but not NetBSD...and NetBSD would have been a MUCH better choice because it was already 64-bit clean, already had lots of relevant device support, the team had relevant architectural experience, etc etc etc...Later, the FreeBSD folks ported their stuff to Alpha. The last time I played with it, about 1.5yrs ago, it was slow and very unstable. I've always drawn the lines like this: NetBSD does things portably, and runs on buttloads of different processor architectures. FreeBSD specializes in PeeCee hardware, and all their effort is [was] focused there, so it's more featureful and has more device support on x86. So the lines are blurring, and for primarily political reasons. We don't even want to TALK about OpenBSD. The whole reason for the very existance of that OS was a petty argument between a bunch of egotists in the NetBSD core group, and OpenBSD was started out of childish spite. Reminds me of clark.net. Pardon me whilst I throw up. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 1 month

5.25in. Floppies

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 22, Doc wrote: > > > > Is it just me, or is there something not-so-subtly ironic and > > > > gratifying about a 450mHz desktop with a working 5.25 floppy drive > > > > > > I think it's amazing that a 0.45Hz system doesn't have data overrun > > > problems when reading from a floppy controller :-) > > > > He shoots, he scores! > > Umm, so, how long do I get to take flak for a typo? Until we get bored with it. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 1 month

5.25in. Floppies

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 22, Tony Duell wrote: > > Is it just me, or is there something not-so-subtly ironic and > > gratifying about a 450mHz desktop with a working 5.25 floppy drive > > I think it's amazing that a 0.45Hz system doesn't have data overrun > problems when reading from a floppy controller :-) He shoots, he scores! -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 1 month

Sea Container Spelunking (Terminal Junkie Part Two)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> containers. I half expected to find some ex-colleagues preserved in > aspic. "Oh, John? No, he never _really_ left. No one ever does". Aspic isn't a preservative, it's a sauce... Haven't you ever had Lark's Tongues in Aspic? ;) -dq

24 years, 1 month

PPro

by ken＠seefried.com

Once again, Wizard wrote: >Soothe... Sure, Bevis... >I was trying to see your thoughts on PPros, >keep in mind that PII and PIII are based on P6 which is PPro's >original design. Not the original design, the implimented design. Do pay attention: the PII was in most respects a reduced cost implimentation of the PPro with updated fab technology. > Also PPro boards relied on 72pin simms which is not > that great of a bandwith and capacity, Wrong...both of my PPro machines (Intel PR440 motherboards) use ECC EDO DIMMs. The IBM, Digital, HP and many other PPros used DIMMs as well. Also...once you understand computer architecture fundamentals a bit better, you'll figure out that modern processors are generally not tied to a particular memory subsytem. You can do all sorts of things to trade off between cost and speed. For example, my DEC Alpha PC64 uses 4 standard 72-pin ECC SIMMs for a 128-bit wide (+ECC) memory bus, which is in practice quite fast. And as far as capacity, 128MB 72-pin SIMMs are pretty common. Not bad capacity considering their obsolescence. > SDRAM has best density and > good bandwith, also still good cost even cost has recently risen. You actually want to compare performance and density of memory technologies that are years appart. Clearly, the DC-3 was the crappiest airplane of all time, because the 767 is so much better. > That the reason for later machines w/ PII/PIII, Xeon and it's > relatives P4 northwoods /w DDR (not the 1st generation P4), athlons. > still stands Ummm...random buzzword generator? Not even remotely intellegable. Or is it that you think it's remotely relevant to compare the PPro to chips which are 2 or 3 generations newer? D00d! The 386 b10wz compared to my P4. Duh. > Most of my scorn lies w/ > PPro's chipsets more than CPU themselves. Same w/ celeron. It is > okay but... First...what's wrong with the 440FX? Or the 450GX? Or the 450KX? Or the 440LX (also, BTW, used for your vaunted PII)? Or the Micron, Via & SiS PPro chipsets for the PPro? And the last time I checked, most motherboards supported PII, PIII & Celeron. So what exactly is wrong with the BX, etc. that is specific to the Celeron such that it earns your "scorn" <snicker>? Details, that is...not nonsense like we've gotten till now. ObBigGiantClue: you can't ding a chipset for not supporting technology that didn't even exist when the chipset came out (like AGP or SDRAM). Second...make up your mind. Is it the processor you criticize (with no detail, of course, in all previous postings) or the chipset. You do realize they are different animals, right?

24 years, 1 month

DC-100 cartridge tapes wanted

by mikem＠open.com.au

Hi all, Im looking for DC-100 cartridge tapes to use with my Tek 4041 GPIB controller. I think HP also used to use them a lot? Dont care about the tape length, just the mechanical size. Anyone (preferably in Australia) have a small number surplus to requirements? Cheers. -- Mike McCauley mikem(a)open.com.au Open System Consultants Pty. Ltd Unix, Perl, Motif, C++, WWW 24 Bateman St Hampton, VIC 3188 Australia http://www.open.com.au Phone +61 3 9598-0985 Fax +61 3 9598-0955 Radiator: the most portable, flexible and configurable RADIUS server anywhere. SQL, proxy, DBM, files, LDAP, NIS+, password, NT, Emerald, Platypus, Freeside, TACACS+, PAM, external, Active Directory etc etc on Unix, Win95/8, 2000, NT, MacOS 9, MacOS X

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test-drb January 2002