On Jan 28, 16:43, Matt London wrote:
> Here in the UK they go by the canocial name "Kettle Plugs", as the higher
> current (15A?) version is most frequently found at the end of powercables
> for electric kettles (you know, those things for heating water).
>
> The name is frequenly extended to the 5A version as well (the one
everyone
> is familiar with)
>
> Also in common usage is a "hot to cold cable" :&) I'm sure everyone here
> can figure that one out.
Actually the standard connector style was originally rated 6A, and has
since been uprated to 10A (UK). The type with the notch was originally
10A, and the distinguishing feature is that it is rated for a higher
temperature, hence it's use on kettles (in the US it is rated at a higher
current as well as a higher temperature). Hence the terms "hot condition"
and "cold condition". If you look through the list archives you'll find
some other information about this, which various people posted last year.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cameron Kaiser [mailto:spectre@stockholm.ptloma.edu]
> Heck, there's even a 1581fs for Commodore 1581 3.5" disks.
Really? I knew of the drivers that run 1541 drives through the serial port, but hadn't heard of a native FS for anything of the sort. :)
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
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print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
Additional bonus points awarded if the only boot mechanism was a 9-track
tape drive that required you to disconnect your dryer as part of the
boot-up process.......
- Matt
At 10:22 AM 1/28/2002 -0600, you wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian Chase [mailto:vaxzilla@jarai.org]
>
> > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Roger Merchberger wrote:
>
> > > Hell, *everything* I do is fast -- Winders & Linux!
> > [[ahem... I have a
> > > dual-processor Athlon MP 1600+ -- dual SCSI, dual LAN,
> > etc... so I realize
> > > this isn't a fair fight... ;-) ]]
>
> > You're not gonna impress anyone on this list with that candy-pants
> > quiche-eating system. You can start to get our attention by get a
> > computer that weighs more than you. Or barring that, we'll respect
> > you more if your system doesn't have floating point instructions,
> > or an integer divide, or even an integer multiply.
>
>Hear Hear. Though, I may listen when Athlons have casters and a
>respectable console firmware with "deposit" and "examine" commands, at
>least. Bonus points if you can't get them to run windows should your life
>depend on it.
>
>Regards,
>
>Chris
>
>
>Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
>Amdocs - Champaign, IL
>
>/usr/bin/perl -e '
>print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
>'
>
Matthew Sell
Programmer
On Time Support, Inc.
www.ontimesupport.com
(281) 296-6066
Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST!
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"One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad
"Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler
Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...
> From: Ian Koller <vze2mnvr(a)verizon.net>
> I looked at it, then checked your "me" page, then gave up.
>
> If you want auctions that automatically extend, you have
> that option as a seller on Yahoo.
Ian, thanks for pointing this out. For the group, here's a snippet from
Pat's Ebay "me" page:
[begin snippet]
I reserve the right not to honor any bid made during the last 2 minutes of
one of my auctions. Also, I
maintain a list of everyone who has ever "bid sniped" me on any auction
that I was a bidder on, and I
reserve the right to not honor any bids on my auction items from any bidder
on that list.
[snippet ends]
I don't have a lot of Ebay experience, but I was under the impression that
it was a fairly level playing field, albeit one where "anything goes." If
someone comes up against me with a faster machine and a faster connection,
then I may be sniped. Oh well. This guy carries grudges and does not
appear to be a trustworthy person to deal with. I'll look more closely at
"me" pages in the future. Sheesh!
Glen
0/0
> Pat Barron wrote:
> >
> > I happened across one of these recently, and have no real interest in
> > Microdata. So, I've listed the thing on eBay, check it out if
> > interested...
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1326034396
> >
> > --Pat.
A while back my HP 2000 Access TimeShare BASIC system went down due to
memory problems in the IOP (a 2100S). I thought the problems were in the
core boards or the XY drivers, but just yesterday noticed that the main
memory controller card (Data Control, 02100-60011) was introducing parity
errors into a known good set of cards. So I suspect that many of the 8K core
stacks I thought were bad, really werent and it was the data control board
all along. So.... I wanted to ask if any of the list members had the
following:
Either
1) An HP 2100A or 2100S cpu that they would be willing to sell me
or
2) An HP 02100-60011 Data Control card that they would be willing to sell me
While a data control board is all I really need, I would certainly entertain
buying someones 2100 cpu if it's sitting on a shelf as it would be extremely
helpfull to have a spare set of the cards that make up the cpu section too.
After all, the cpu is pretty much useless without the data control card
anyways.
Of course, I'd be perfectly willing to trade as well as buy if I have
something people are interested in. Thanks in advance if anyone can help!
Regards,
Jay West
It seams like the Schneider AG, once famous maker of the
CPC Series Computers (well, OEM of the Amstrad CPCs) and
later on of more or less IBM compatible machines (in the
beginning less later on more :) is finaly bankrupt - in
an as hoc notice the company declared they will officialy
stop bussines and file an 'Insolvenzantrag' today.
http://lib-o-mat.feedback.de/cms-public/schneider/presse/technologies/1076.…
Schneider stoped to make computers some years ago, but
was still a name to know in A/V Electronic. Tey own a
real lot of patents around modern Display technology,
digital recording and HDTV. Especialy their relativly
new Laser projection system ins unique.
Well, there goes the hope to get cheap laser systems
soon.
Gruss
H.
--
VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen
http://www.vcfe.org/
On January 27, William Donzelli wrote:
> What I meant was that the control for a 2311 in an 1131 is the cheap
> kludge - one shots, delays, and the like - when compared to the "real"
> controller, the 2841. This control unit was very complex - probably more
> so that an entire 1130 system.
>
> I have no real engineering data (Big Blue Binders) on the 2841, but it
> actually would not suprise me is the 1131 or 1800 was the processor inside
> (or maybe a modified version).
While we're on the subject of IBM big iron, does anyone here know
offhand what type of interface and protocol the 3290 plasma display
terminal speaks? Also, does anyone know the part number of a keyboard
that will work with it?
Thanks,
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
Hi folks. I unearthed an HP87XM from my storage area and have been
thinking of firing it up as a little diversion. Can anyone point me
toward any programming reference info?
Also...what are my mass storage options on this machine? It's got
an HP-IB interface, and I've seen lots of HP-IB drives over the
years...but what were commonly sold with this machine?
Thanks,
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote:
> The 2225B was the original battery powered unit (runs off 6 sub-C NiCd
> cells in a special HP battery pack [1]). It was designed to be used with
> portable computers and calculators (HP41, HP71, HP75, HP110). The only
> problem is that there is no way to fix a paper supply to it. Presumably
> you're supposed to take a stack of fanfold paper, the printer, the
> printer stand, and the HPIL cables around with you. Then find a desk to
> set the stand and printer on, feed in the paper and print something.
Printer stands to go with Thinkjets? Luxury! Where I worked at the
time we didn't buy them, not even for the HP-IB ones that pretty much
stayed where they were. Most folks either stacked the paper somewhere
behind the printer and dealt with the resulting loss of desk space
and/or mess of tangled supply paper, printer paper, and cables; or
kludged a stand out of an empty cardboard box.
> Quite honestly I've never had to print anything in a location where
> there's a desk but no mains supply. But anyway...
It saved you having to fuss with the wall wart until you ran the
battery down. But you're right, we had a couple HP-IL Thinkjets to go
with a couple 110s and people who used the 110s mostly didn't bother
with the Thinkjets -- they were either using the 110 to dial up the
3000 from home and didn't need a printout, or they were doing some
work at home that they would bring back the next day and could print
on an HP150.
-Frank McConnell
On January 27, Colin Eby wrote:
> More information will be forthcoming, sometime next
> weekend -- probably whether anyone cares or not. I
I care! I plan to get a System36 someday.
Got any pics up yet?
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
> From: Douglas Taylor <taylor(a)cem.nrl.navy.mil>
> It turns out I have two Zenith Data Systems 'SuperSport' labtops, one is
an
> 8088 model and the other is a 80386/SX 16 (I think), the last one is
called
> a 'SuperSport SX'. They use the same external power supply, 16.5 VDC 2.5
> amps.
Well, the laptop is marked "11 VDC" but the connector is odd -- looks
similar to an S-video connector. The unit doesn't belong to me and I've
only seen it once, so it might not be exactly the same as S-video.
Glen
0/0
(they wwere released in '91, so they meet the ten-year rule..)
I've got a metric buttload of SGI Indigo R3K RAM (4meg and 2meg
modules), framebuffers (LG1 8bit) and five actual *systems* for
sale/trade/etc. I've also got ten 3.5" drive sleds for R3k/
R4K Indigos. Email me if interested. Sorry, but I'm out of
keyboards and mice.
Bill
--
Bill Bradford
mrbill(a)mrbill.net
Austin, TX
ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote:
> I think I've managed to find at least one genuine HP thinkjet stand. But
> you're right, most people made their own (out of plastic sheet and metal
> rod, normally).
We were on a budget, and we did a lot of printing on our HP 3000s, so
there was a near-constant stream of available empty boxes. Sometimes
we'd even get paper in boxes with sturdy tops that could be easily
fashioned into Thinkjet stands.
> I doubt that wall wart [1] (it's that little HP 8V 3VA unit) could supply
> the printer continuously. Which means that on long print jobs the battery
> pack is running down, even if the charger is plugged in. Which, in turn,
> means there's a maximum length of file you can print on the HPIL thinkjet
> :-(.
No, it means you run the battery down and then are disappointed to find
that plugging it in doesn't bring it back to life right away. Nobody
ever reported that, but like I said most of our users just didn't bother
with the printer.
> I must say I've been very impressed with the HP82169 HPIL-HPIB interface.
> It's pretty much plug-n-play for most applications :-)).
Imagine a Portable Plus sitting there formatting an HP 7963 (I think)
HP-IB disc drive through one of these. It will do it, and then it
will let you use the whopping 20MB or so that its version of MS-DOS
can handle.
-Frank McConnell
>in Monte Sereno, Calif." So he may still be around. Switchboard.com
>only found five Tramiel in CA but no Jack, and I don't remember
>his sons' names at the moment, but
One was Sam I believe.
Regards,
Bob
>
>Now, is Gould still alive?
>
>- John
>
>
On January 27, Tothwolf wrote:
> > There are three "standard" IEC power connectors...there's the one
> > we're all used to, the one with the dimple (higher current) and a
> > larger square one (still higher current).
>
> There are also ones for 240V high current gear. Maybe these are same same
> as the square one you mentioned? My SGI 210S machine uses one of these
> cables to connect the main PSU to the power distribution box. The power
> distribution box uses a 240V 30A twist-lock power cord. The main PSU
The square ones used on the deskside Challenge and Onyx systems are
120V. I've never seen a 240V version, but then everything I've done
with 240V has been twist-lok connectors.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
On January 27, Tony Duell wrote:
> I must say I've been very impressed with the HP82169 HPIL-HPIB interface.
> It's pretty much plug-n-play for most applications :-)).
Hey, wait a minute...that might solve a problem for me. I have a
time-critical need for an HPIB thinkjet, and mine is in storage a
thousand miles from here. I have an HPIL thinkjet here, though, and
an 82169A HPIL-HPIB interface. Can I use that interface to connect
my HPIL thinkjet to the HPIB output of my scope (HP 54111D)?
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
I'm watching Battlebots at the moment, and I just saw a demonstration of a
blade-spinning bot. The demo involved shredding a Commodore PET to bits.
I'm not much of a Commodore enthusiast, but I was quite taken aback.
Note to self: not everyone in the world thinks like us.
--
Jeffrey S. Sharp
jss(a)subatomix.com
In a message dated 1/27/02 5:51:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com writes:
> It's too bad they didn't try that on Grid! I'll bet that it's magnesium
> case would have put up a good fight. Or else took the BattleBot with it
> when it caught on fire! That would have been fun to see too!
>
> Joe
>
>
No doubt! I still have a GRiDcase 3 in the magnesium alloy case. I have
heard stories about the army dropping these from helicopters and dusting them
off -n- starting them back up again. They have to weigh 30 pounds and they
are built like a brick. The one I have came from retirement from the water
conservation dept field officer. After *years* of continued service there
isn't a dent in it or a scratch deeper than the paintjob - and there aren't
many of those!
-Linc.
In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...
Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.
Folks --
Just a little update on a project I had posted the
list about....
... when we last saw our hero he was expecting the
arrival of a bouncing baby S/36. Alright -- so it's
really a teenager, and bouncing it hardly
appropriate.... And he was worried about getting
documentation and SSP Disks. Here's the news. The
system's here -- and I've cleaned out the cobwebs,
microvac'ing one card gingerly at a time. I found the
maintenance manual -- under the case where IBM put it
>from day one. The display station arrived (costing
more than the server). Power was applied and two
wonderous things happened:
First, the lights *didn't* dim. This flat only has a
10A service and the machine's rated at 10A ( not to
mention the other beasties sharing the aforementioned
amperage). I had visions of that mammoth disk grinding
into life while the neighorhood was plunged into
darkness. I realize there are three phase 240 V
devotee's on this list. I exhort them to understand my
newbie thills at this minor first achievement, and not
scoff outloud.
Second, the silly thing actually IPL'd. I don't of
course have a valid account for it. And so I've been
hunting for installation media or hacking
instructions. I think I've located the latter, but may
end up requiring the former anyway. The diagnostic
utilities have been partially removed from the fixed
disk -- I suspect this was a space saving ploy. So
some of the applications required to read the raw disk
and seek the password file aren't available to me. For
that I will need at least the diagnostic disk. Please
volunteer suggestions on acquiring one of those (8" of
course).
Saddly this was a much as I've achieved. The second
effort at an IPL failed -- and I'm still trying to
track down the SRC cause. I'm not begging for help on
that one just yet, though once again -- the diagnostic
disk would be helpful. Please, please volunteer
suggestions on acquiring one of those (8" of course).
More information will be forthcoming, sometime next
weekend -- probably whether anyone cares or not. I
figure I'm entitled since at least my babbling is
squarely on thread (and who knows, maybe of use to
someone browsing through the profit/non-profit/useless
classic/dual-athlon posts for a reference to
retro-machines someday). ;->~ No that was not an
open-flaming-season invitation. Just a good hearted
jibe.
Your's in 16bit brotherhood,
Colin Eby
Senior Consultant
CSC Consulting
PS -- Anyone have a spare left shift key for an IBM
P70. I'm afraid I missing one, and this keyboard's
somewhat unique to the model.
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions!
http://auctions.yahoo.com
Longshot, but someone here might have one or know where to find one.
I'd like find a DEC Lisp PAK that someone is willing to sell/trade/give
me. It seems there is no one at Compaq who is able/willing to assist and
they have an IP issue with putting it on the free software list. Hence,
transfering a license appears to be the only way to get that software
running.
Thanks,
William
--
You better watch out What you wish for;
It better be worth it So much to die for.
Courtney Love
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com]
> only things I'm likely to keep will be the PSU's. It might
> be well for you to
> learn about the Apple-][+ before running out to get various
> add-on's, so you
> get the "right" stuff as opposed to a wierd assortment of junk.
Think so? :) I imagine you're right. My question, though, had more to do
with what kind of nifty stuff you can get to hook up to it. I have only
worked with relatively "vanilla" Apple IIs, so I have little knowledge in
that area.
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
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On January 24, Doc wrote:
> > The problem is that the IBM 3101 don't establish communication
> > with the Linux system. The 3101 show one "Line Check 2" message
> > that talk about the comm.line, I suppose. The cable used is one
> > normal serial cable.
>
> If by "normal serial cable" you mean a standard port-to-modem cable,
> that is most likely your problem. You need to use a null-modem serial
> cable with a terminal.
That depends *completely* on the terminal. Several even have both
DTE- and DCE-wired connectors.
My standard rule for dealing with an RS232 in-yer-face is to plug it
in without a null modem and see if it works...if it doesn't, then plug
in a null modem.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
Need a power cable for the Netserver, they got one with all of the machines
they bought for resale so I have to locate one. It's a standard PC type (HP)
plug on the server side except that it's got a dimple on the side opposite
the angled corners and it's either 16 or 14AWG due to the 12A draw of the
server. I also assume it to have a different plug, not sure though. I'm sure
that other applications use the same thing with all the heavy servers out
there and that someone has an aftermarket source or has a few ratholed with
no immenent use for it/them.
HP has theirs listd for US as 8120-5395 but is no longer available (go
figure - no power cord and you have a useless server).
I really don't want to chance grooving a standard 18AWG cord and watching
the fire dept as they hose my shop and new server down.
I just checked JDR and Jameco - Jameco lists a standard cable at 14AWG but
no real picture of the end, just a generic photo/figure. Now it's time to
dig out the Mouser and Digikey catalogs - might find the HP end that I need,
I have plenty of heavy duty power cables with regular female outlets (some
12AWG) that I can use. In that case I could even wire it direct or to 220
(autoranging/adjusting unit). Have to research a little I guess.
On January 26, Doc wrote:
> Based on the fact that the keyboard cutout of the RT's back panel is
> shaped like the (huge) insulator on the interface, and the mouse in the
> picture has a (huge) insulator [my terminology fails me here; sorry]
> that matches the mouse port's cutout, I vote it's an RT mouse.
>
> What DO ya call that huge chunk o' rubber right behind the male end,
> anyway?
The foreskin?
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
>Somebody (or more likely a group of people) need to compile a catalogue
>of spare parts. Saying that the idler from a JVC.... video recorder has
>the following dimensions (diameter, thickness, tyre width, etc). And that
>the motor from a Panasonic CD player is 6V, with the following
>dimensions. And so on. So that you can attempt to find parts that will
>fit machines that nobody seels spares for any more...
I have a "belt checker" from MCM electronics.
You place the belt around one pin, then slid the other pin until the belt
is sitting between them with no tension. It tells you the size of the
belt. Then there is a ruler to measure the width, and a picture chart
that shows style (square, round, whatever).
When you have all the info, there is a chart on the back with MCM part
numbers for the matching belt.... only down side... more often then not,
they no longer carry the part listed on their checker... and they don't
seem to have a list of compatible parts they DO carry... fortunalty,
their master catalog has a list of belts and tires by size.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
On January 27, Russ Blakeman wrote:
> Need a power cable for the Netserver, they got one with all of the machines
> they bought for resale so I have to locate one. It's a standard PC type (HP)
> plug on the server side except that it's got a dimple on the side opposite
> the angled corners and it's either 16 or 14AWG due to the 12A draw of the
> server. I also assume it to have a different plug, not sure though. I'm sure
> that other applications use the same thing with all the heavy servers out
> there and that someone has an aftermarket source or has a few ratholed with
> no immenent use for it/them.
This is a standard high-current IEC power connector. They're used
on several models of MicroVAX, several larger Cisco routers, and lots
of other things. They shouldn't be too hard to find. Someone who
carries Cisco supplies will have them. I think the 7513 uses these,
in particular.
> I really don't want to chance grooving a standard 18AWG cord and watching
> the fire dept as they hose my shop and new server down.
I wouldn't worry too much about this. Use an ammeter to check the
current draw if you're really concerned...but I have a couple of DEC
4000/400 machines that have these power connectors, and they pull a
whopping [measured] 3A.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
Here's a system that I thought someone might be interested
in. I received another email from him that suggested it also had
dual 8" drive cabinets with it, as well as including images of it
>from a flyer or book. I'd take it in myself but do not have the
space for it at the moment. If interested, please reply directly to
the sender. I can provide the images to anyone that wants them, as
well as his phone number.
Jeff
>Status: U
>Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 20:08:37 -0800
>From: John Valentine <john.valentine(a)verizon.net>
>X-Accept-Language: en
>To: jhellige(a)earthlink.net
>Subject: Datapoint 1500 with printer
>
>Jeff:
>
>A friend of mine has a Datapoint 1500 with 160 cps printer. He is
>looking for a home for the Datapoint. He was going to put it on ebay,
>but we thought we would check the antique computer sites before doing
>it.
>
>Are you interested? He lives in Fairfax, Virginia.
>
>John Valentine
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Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File
http://www.cchaven.comhttp://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
Well took some time off the job hunt and move to check out some of my
old hangouts and found something I have been looking for, it's a working
Vectrex in good shape with one controller and no games but the built in
one for $25 at a local thrift. I have been watching these go high on
eBay and figured I would not be able to get one anytime soon. I also
picked up some game cartridges for the 2600, Virtual Boy, Game Gear,
Jaguar, and some of the newer machines. The wife is making me hold off
on buying until I start working again so I have not gone to any of the
auctions here yet. There are 2 auctions here in Houston that you can
find good deals at , one is only 2 days a week and the other is
everyday. That's it for now keep on computing.
Hello,
does anybody out there have the docs available for the TSU05 controller
board used in PDP-11s or VAXes with UNIBUS to connect to the DEC variant
TS05 of the Cipher F880?
The board is M7455, and I am looking for the meanings of the DIP
switches.
There must be CSR address and interrupt vector, each made up by several
individual switches, but in addition to that, an "extended features"
switch and one for "buffering".
Thanks in advance!
Andreas
--
Andreas Freiherr
Vishay Semiconductor GmbH, Heilbronn, Germany
http://www.vishay.com
Hello,
While looking for 3.5" 720K discs to format on a HP-150 that I bought
(yes, I sometimes actually pay money for classic computers,
especially if they're Hewlett-Packard) from Bill Sudbrink, I came
across a set of diskettes labelled
Uptime: The Disk Monthly
Volume 2 Number 1, for instance, is copyright 1986 by Viking Technologies out
of Newport, Rhode Island, and has the following table of contents:
Loan Calculator, Seasoned Clip Art, Stepping Out Demo, TermWorks,
3D TicTacToe, Hacker Interview, Biorhythm, Gone Fishin' DA,
Little Black Book DA and Preview.
I've got at least five diskettes with pre-printed labels, another half
dozen with
typewritten labels (e.g. "Uptime 2.8") and one labeled "The Best of Uptime,
Brought to you by Macworld".
Is there any interest or reason to save these, or can I go ahead and reformat
them without fear of losing something someone on this list might want?
Cheers,
Dan
www.decodesystems.com
On Jan 26, 21:10, Doc wrote:
> What DO ya call that huge chunk o' rubber right behind the male end,
> anyway?
EMI filter. An interference suppressor consisting of a ferrite tube
clamped onto the cable to reduce RF radiation.
But I liked Dave's answer too.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I have 2 150MB DC6150 tape cartridges from Opus Systems
Label 1:
_________
Opus5 400PM/8000 5.3.2 Rev Q4
P/N 900-00269-001
# sysadm installpkg
or load during the
initial installation
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What the heck is it?
Doc
On January 26, John Allain wrote:
> Revealing my stupidity: Can any/all do RX50
> formatting? I realize one thing, that HD writes
> on LD drives are suboptimal.
Well, RX50s are 80-track drives, so a 360K drive won't do it...other
than that, most should, I would think.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
Russ --
Let me know if you need any other resources for this
system. We're still using this model -- after four
years of co-habitation, I couldn't know them much
better. We have four or five of these, and one
ultra-rare LXr-Pro8. I get around to doing a fresh
build on them every 4 months or so. That's because
they're part of our benchmarking equipment pool. So
they get reconfigured very regularly. The performance
engineering folks (myself included) use them. And they
certainly do perform well, even if they are bordering
on classic status. I understand you have a source for
manuals already. So anything else you need, please let
me know.
One word of advice. I'd leave the RAM in. It's the RAM
that keeps them running like much newer equipment,
since there aren't that many applications that'll peg
a quad, even an old one, they'll run best with
everything resident in main. Second piece of advice,
put a better video card in. There's an embedded one --
but it's a flicker-fest at anything higher than
800x600.
Colin Eby
Senior Consultant
CSC Consulting
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Hello Pat,
If you read these links, it gives other "perspectives" on
the issue of sniping. I guess you don't like sniping, because
you would like to get the best price you could for your items.
This we do respect.
http://www.geocities.com/phillipcreed/myths.htmlhttp://www.geocities.com/phillipcreed/http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/supersniper/
But the ones who complain that they didn't win an item because
someone sniped them, we have no respect for what so ever. No one
ever lost an item because someone out bid them. They lost the item
because they didn't bid the high bid utilizing the "proxy" bidding
system. Period. These are people that want to blame others for their
own failures which they themselves brought about. They seem to act
like the world owes them something, when in reality, their failure
is brought on because they are too cheap and selfish. They want what
other people have, but are unwilling to give much of themselves to
get it.
A note to all. You'll win whatever item you bid on, if you put
in the high bid while the auction is running, regardless of when
that bid is placed.
As for the ones that complain about prices of goods being
sold on eBay as being so high, these people have been deemed
unsuitable for employment in our organization for being too
ignorant of commerce and economics. It's indicative of serious
flaws in personality, attitude, and intelligence. Generally
things on eBay often sell for a third to an eighth ( and
sometimes even 1/25 ) of what they are actually worth, and
we have hard data to prove that fact. So any that end up out
of work, just know, we'll learn more about what you're really
like by reading the messages you've posted, than we'd ever learn
in an interview. And we do research prospective applicants
in this manner. Thanks Google.
Pat Barron wrote:
>
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Ian Koller wrote:
> > I looked at it, then checked your "me" page, then gave up.
> >
> > If you want auctions that automatically extend, you have
> > that option as a seller on Yahoo.
>
> I'm sorry that put you off; I've been thinking about toning down or
> eliminating that section, but I haven't done anything about it yet because
> this is a really sore point with me - it's particularly aimed at people
> who run "outbid-bots", that track auctions and place bids in (literally)
> the final 15 or 30 seconds of the auction, to ensure that the previous
> high bidder has no chance to rebid.
>
> In a "real" auction, the auction generally continues until activity
> ceases; if that's doable on Yahoo! Auctions (like the old Onsale.com
> system, in which a bid in the last 5 minutes of an auction automatically
> extended it), then that might be a better option for me. Though I haven't
> listed anything there for a long time, because I've had the impression
> that very few people use Yahoo! Auctions (as opposed to eBay)....
>
> Thanks,
> --Pat.
If you got that, I'm probably talking to you....
Is anybody interested in buying/trading for -
Hardware:
1 Fortune Systems video console
1 Fortune Systems ASCII terminal
1 Fortune Systems keyboard
2 Fortune Systems floppy drives?? Full-height 5.25" with very
strange latch
1 2 lb. bag of misc. cables
1 256k 32:16 RAM expansion, tagged defective
Documentation:
1 For:Pro for 32:16 Installation Instructions
1 Introductuion to For:Pro
1 Fortune Systems Tape Streamer User's Guide {1}
1 Using Fortune Terminals
1 Fortune Interactive Terminal Emulator
1 Fortune:Word Operators' Guide
1 Fortune:Word Reference Guide
1 Fortune:Multiplan Professional Tools
5.25" Floppy Disks:
1-of-1 Fortune Diagnostic Disk {2}
Process & Instrumentation Design
Support Diskette v4.0
3-of-? For:Pro Cold-Boot {2}
3-of-3 Single-User For:Pro
Release Level 1.7/J3
1-of-1 Multiuser For:Pro (Domestic)
System Tools Series
1-of-1 Meet Your Fortune System
Training and Education Series
1-of-1 Language Development Tools
System Tools Series
1-of-1 C
System Tools Series
1-of-1 For:Pro 1.7 Upgrade
System Tools Series
1-of-1 Fortune Word - Promotional
Software Not For Resale
Release level 1.0/E3
1-of-1 Fortune Word - Promotional
Software Not For Resale
Release level 1.1/E3
1-of-1 Multiplan - Promotional
Software Not For Resale
1-of-1 Multiplan Master - Promotional
Software Not For Resale
1-of-1 Business Basic - Promotional
Software Not For Resale
2-of-2 General Ledger - Promotional
Software Not For Resale
1-of-1 C - GKS
Beta Test
Release level 1.0d/?
1-of-1 Tektronix (R) 401X Emulator
15-or-20 Unlabelled or illegibly labelled floppies. Apparently
related to the Fortune stuff.
{1} Software Documentation in box which should, but doesn't, contain
5.25" disks
{2} P&ID floppy with printed or typed label. Label is identical to
the Fortune Systems floppies except for the logo.
{3} These are BASF floppies with handwritten labels
Unless otherwise noted, all floppies appear to be the "official"
distribution, with the Fortune Systems logo on the label. Floppies are
NOT in great shape, mostly distorted and warped from heat or moisture.
I'm guessing they're probably readable, about *once*.
I'm selling/trading ALL this as-is. I don't have a 32:16 system unit
(everything but...), so it's all untested.
***** Just so there are no misconceptions or misrepresentations, I am
NOT a charitable organization. I spend a crapload of time and money on
this hobby, and anytime I can make it turn a profit, I will leap for
joy. *****
Doc
On January 26, Doc wrote:
> > The foreskin?
>
> DUDE! you made me scare my cat!
>
> Rolling around laughing, with VERY irate kitty glaring at me....
Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
>Is there any interest or reason to save these, or can I go ahead and reformat
>them without fear of losing something someone on this list might want?
If any of them contain the game "Iggy Igopolis", I would like a copy of
the game (it was shareware, so you can safely just email me the game, I
don't need the whole disk).
My floppy with it has gone bad (it robbed a 7-11)... and I have not yet
been successful in finding a new copy (but I did track down Captain
Magneto which made me very happy)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Someone mentioned the RT mouse has two round buttons. I have had this mouse
in my collection and have been wondering what it was for.
Http://members.aol.com/innfogra/IBMMS1.JPG
The connector is a 6 pin square. Can anyone ID it?
If someone is interested it is available FSOT. Please contact me off list at
whoagiii(a)aol.com.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
I can supply a JPEG if there are any problems with the URL.
On January 26, Bryan Pope wrote:
> > My S/390's *hard disk* weighs *20 times* as much as me. 8-)
>
> O!.. Ok.. Do not drop them on your foot.
>
> These aren't the ones that are over a foot wide in a clear plastic? case
> with a handle in the centre to carry or lock them in place?
That would be *old* mainframe technology. This is *new* mainframe
technology. What's that array, Sridhar? 2 or 4TB?
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
I was wondering if any of my fine fellow listers might have
cassette software (especially BASIC, but would love to have
anything) for the Interact Model One.
Having acquired one of these, I'm interested in making it
do something besides say "PRESS 'L' TO LOAD TAPE."
If anyone has cassettes they'd be willing to dub for me, I
would be thrilled to repay you in gratitude, some piece of
80's micro hardware or software _you_ might be looking for,
or, of course, plain old cash for your time and tape.
--Michael Passer
In a message dated 26/01/02 14:22:32 Pacific Standard Time,
ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk writes:
> HP85s have 2 ways of chewing tapes, both fixable (normally). If the
> optical EOT sensor fails, then it'll run the tape off the spool. Often
> just cleaning the sensor will fix it. If not, then the electronics is not
> that complicated IIRC.
>
> The other (and more common) way is for the drive roller to run to glue. I
> have heard that silicone rubber tubing of the right diamter will fix
> this. As I've got some other HP machines where this has happened (9825,
> 9831, etc) I am going to have to investigate the exact methods of repair.
>
It's the old "drive roller turned to glue" problem. I need to fix a 9825 as
well.
I tried a few TV/HI-FI repair shops and asked "where can I get one of these
or something similar ?"
My question was followed by "Have you got a part Number ? " Grrrrrr :-(
Chris
Innfogra(a)aol.com wrote:
> Http://members.aol.com/innfogra/IBMMS1.JPG
That looks like the RT PC mouse that I remember. I believe (based on
my inventory) that the IBM part number is 00F2383.
-Frank McConnell
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com]
> I can FEEL the love around here.
Yep. Sooo.... I didn't tell everyone about my new VT131 yet.
That's the ticket -- how about those classic computers? ;)
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> > They are yours. What is your address?
Paul, I received them - exceedingly well packaged - in yesterday's mail.
Thank you very much.
As a matter of possible interest, they contain the operating system
(CP/M-2.20) and other associated programs for the BYAD PC/XT Z-80 card.
Disk format is same as the old 8 x 512 sector PC-CP/M-86.
- don