January 2002 - test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Lawrence Walker [mailto:lgwalker@mts.net] > TRS80s. Mini and > micro people would be all over each other. And I would be in I don't imagine that would be the case. I think most people on the list are diverse enough to appreciate both. > a minus rating > because of my non-industry ignorance. Then how would I get > help in simple > repair tasks for my collection ? ... and everyone's ignorant of some things. Life would be boring if you had nothing left to learn. On the other hand, you're right that it's probably a bad idea -- just not for those reasons ;) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Chase [mailto:vaxzilla@jarai.org] > On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Christopher Smith wrote: > > I'm pretty sure your RT counts on at least the point of having a > > proper system monitor, though. :) Honestly, I don't have many > > machines with wheels, myself.... I have two now, and a few that > > _should_ have wheels, but don't, which may also count... Gotta get > > one of those nice BA-123s for one of my MicroVAXen. > Would that be with or without the naked woman option? Well -- a fiancee could be... um... converted -- into a "naked woman option..." She has her own VAX even, but it's a VAXStation 2000, which doesn't have any wheels. Right now, though, there are no nude women on my VAXen. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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HP 9000 800/G40 console cable -- again!

by csmith＠amdocs.com

An update on that HP system. It seems the pinout I had for the console cable is completely off. :) (Great!) I did manage to find the send and receive pins and get those plugged in, so I have a console connection. Anyway, the point of this is -- nobody use that last pinout. I got an offer before from somebody who has one of these, and was willing to check how the cable works. I will try to obtain a complete, corrected pinout. ;) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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HP JetDirect for Apple??

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Who was looking for this? Toth? doc

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Shameless Plug!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, Bruce Lane wrote: > Ok, I admit it's a shameless ad. I'm sending it here because I know some of you are into the older HP calculators. > > I've put the magnetic card reader (Can it write as well?) for an HP-41C up on Ebay. Link here if you're interested. Hey...On your other auction, the one for the transmission test set...In the leftmost rack in the background, at the top...Would that happen to be a TrueTime GPS, WWVB, or GOES time standard? I think I recognize the color and the rack handle. :) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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S/370 docs (was: Re: IBM big iron.)

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

> > > IBM docs really are very good and complete - probably more so than > > anyone else's. They are a pain in the neck to read, unless you can > > speak the language. Speaking of which... I have a stack of /36 docs that I'd like to part with. I have not looked through all the DOCs but believe the list is accurate. According to the list on the box(s), these are the DOCS: The system/36 Library Using the Async Comm support RPG II messages Source Entry Utility guide Utilities messages Operating your system 5360, 5362 Communications and System Management Guide System 36 Distributed Data management guide Sort Guide Data File utility Guide Using system/36 Communications Interactive Communications Feature: guide and Examples System messages Programming with RPG II Interactive Communications Feature: Reference System /34 to System /36 migration aid Creating Displays: Screen Design aid and system Support program Concepts and Programmers Guide System /36 - system reference Setting up your computer: 5360 Installing you new features: 5362 Performing first configuration: 5360 Operating your computer System porblem determination 5362 Changing system configuration Guide to Publications Converting your /34 to /36 Procedures and Commands Summary. Some of the DOCs are showing wear while others are in excellent condition. Overall, I rate their condition as very good. I'd guess the total weight of the DOCs is around 45 lbs. Because of my curent financial situation, I cannot give them away. However, I will consider REASONABLE offers on this library. If anyone is interested, send me a message offline and we'll discuss. See ya, SteveRob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Request for Review ...

by walgen＠e-Spirit.de

Hi! any help finding out what items are missing from my want list (and of course from my collection) would be VERY APPRECIATED! Want-List: http://www.homecomputer.de/pages/f_want.html Have-List: http://www.homecomputer.de/pages/f_gallery.html Please note that this list only covers HOMEcomputer and not micro/business-computer although the destinction is of course not that easy to make - at least I have a kind of "working-definition": http://www.homecomputer.de/pages/faq.html#items Stefan. www.HomeComputer.de

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Searching for old DEC 12V frontpanel bulbs

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Check out Chicago Miniature Lamp. They seem to be one of the only remaining manufacturers of tiny incandescent lamps. http://www.sli-lighting.com/cml/index.cfm I've found it hard to find distributors who'll sell fewer than 100 lamps, though. Brian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=- _| _| _| Brian Knittel / Quarterbyte Systems, Inc. _| _| _| Tel: 1-510-559-7930 Fax: 1-510-525- 6889 _| _| _| Email: brian(a)quarterbyte.com _| _| _| http://www.quarterbyte.com

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Searching for old DEC 12V frontpanel bulbs

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

At 05:53 AM 1/28/02 -0800, Ethan wrote: > I'm restoring some pre-TTL DEC stuff (R and W series logic) and I need > a handful of front panel bulbs. Unlike the later bulbs with a plastic > base and strong wires to solder to the PCB or to plug into socket pins, > these are like a kernel of corn, with two fine wires coming out of the > glass envelope at a slight angle with no supports of any kind. Sounds like a standard T1_1/2 (about 3/16" diameter) or T1_3/4 (about 1/4" diameter) wire-ended bulb. There are still a few companies that make them. > If DEC was underfeeding these bulbs to extend their life, I would expect > that the bulb should be rated at 14V-16V. I measured slightly over 12VDC > in circuit, but well within a 5% tolerance. The Farnell catalogue lists a few that are 14V. The correct bulbs for my RL02 drives are 14V, fed from a 12V supply, as you say. > I have checked the online manuals I could find, but no mention is made > of the nature of the bulbs for 1966/1967-era DEC equipment. Any ideas? Take a look at Farnell's online catalogue, at http://uk1.farnell.com/Search/search4-frame.jhtml?_DARGS=%2Fcommon%2Fprodse… and search for part number 328900. That should get a page with a small picture; click on the image to get a table showing the charcteristics of that family and a bigger picture (http://uk1.farnell.com/Search/level_5.jhtml?PRODID=37469&SKUID=35454). Part number 3159346 will show you a different make (but only 12V). At least you'll be able to see if that's the right shape/size and perhaps help find a US manufacturer or supplier if you don't want to order from the UK. BTW, if you try part number 316216 you'll find something like the bi-pin ones for your PDP-8 panel. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Looking for DEC pedestal case parts...

by vaxman＠earthlink.net

I got a uPDP-11 today, but the white front cover and the brown front panel bezel (the thing that says micro pdp-11), and the foot are all broken... Anybody got spares? Name your price... Clint

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a VAX 11/780 in my garage ...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 29, Gunther Schadow wrote: > I am happy to announce my new baby: thanks to Jon Auringer of > Astronautics and Merle Pierce of RICM, I have now a VAX 11/780 > in my garage. Nice cabinet, with UNIBUS extension and a TE16 > drive (looks nice but will I ever sacrifice a 25A circuit just > for it?). Oh My. I *really* like TE16 drives. They'll run on much less than a 25A circuit, though...Years ago, I ran a TE16 and a PDP11/34a with two RL01s on a 15A circuit. It was tight, but it ran. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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S/370 docs (was: Re: IBM big iron.)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, Tothwolf wrote: > > Watch it - IBM still sells stuff like this, and might get angry. > > Remember, the S/370 architecture is still very much in use today. > > Really? These seem to be ancient, and seem to have been well taken care > of. I'll check them later and see what their dates were. I can't imagine > them still being in print :) Their current mainframe architecture is based on, and largely compatible with, the S/370 architecture. And there are a LOT of very old actual S/370s still in use. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Anyone wants a Micron Exceed for MAC Se30?

by claudew＠videotron.ca

Hi all While cleaning up and tossing stuff I found a Micron Exceed video card for MAC Se/30. This was gonna go into garbage...but I looked it up and saw that it could be considered rare (...) and perhaps I should not thrash it and get it to someone who can appreciate it. I am not a big ebay-er seller or buyer, so I am offering it here. Trade offers, no $. I saw these going for $60 to $500 depending on model (!!???) I am looking for SGI and SUN equip... Its model no 306-48. Searching www says its for 640 x 480 external VGA on a Se/30 also works on a IIsi (?). I have the card only, not the cable or connector for the monitor but the connector is a 6 X 2 pin common IDC connector and it would be easy to make a cable... Card is untested but it looks fine...I can send you a pic...I remember sticking it a Se30 way back and computer worked but did not test card video output... Contact me by email. Claude http://computer_collector.tripod.com

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Chase [mailto:vaxzilla@jarai.org] > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Roger Merchberger wrote: > > Hell, *everything* I do is fast -- Winders & Linux! > [[ahem... I have a > > dual-processor Athlon MP 1600+ -- dual SCSI, dual LAN, > etc... so I realize > > this isn't a fair fight... ;-) ]] > You're not gonna impress anyone on this list with that candy-pants > quiche-eating system. You can start to get our attention by get a > computer that weighs more than you. Or barring that, we'll respect > you more if your system doesn't have floating point instructions, > or an integer divide, or even an integer multiply. Hear Hear. Though, I may listen when Athlons have casters and a respectable console firmware with "deposit" and "examine" commands, at least. Bonus points if you can't get them to run windows should your life depend on it. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Shameless Plug!

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Ok, I admit it's a shameless ad. I'm sending it here because I know some of you are into the older HP calculators. I've put the magnetic card reader (Can it write as well?) for an HP-41C up on Ebay. Link here if you're interested. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1327909730 Thanks for putting up with my occasional ads. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

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XDMCP for RT?; Was Re: Is this a IBM RT mouse?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, Doc wrote: > > > > > Yup, that's it! Anyone claimed it yet? I'd like it for my RT. > > > > > I think, therefore I am dangerous > > > > > > Well, I fired off an email asking for it Saturday, and haven't heard > > > > back. So, I hope *I* got first dibs.... > > > > > Me too. We could all meet somewhere and fight for it. :) > > > > Can I put money on the fight so I can buy it from the winner? > > So that's 4 of us that have functional RT's but no meese, right? I > have to assume you guys got keyboards, since the docs say the beast > won't boot to a serial terminal. Yup, I have a keyboard. > The question, since I'm pretty ignorant of X11-pre-R6, is if I install > the X11 & AIXWindows packages, will the RT speak XDMCP to a Linux or > NetBSD X-terminal? Or heck, even my X-Station 150? > Inquiring minds gotta know. I'm not loadin all that krap without > either a mouse or remote access to the AIXWindows desktop. I'm > *dreaming* of 5.25" floppies. I'd be surprised if it didn't work. XDMCP has been around a while...I don't remember what release of X it made its debut in, but I was running XDMCP with X-terminals (Sun3/50s and XKernel) nearly ten years ago...RTs weren't nearly so old then. I'll be at least some useful X can be built on an RT, depending on the OS. Probably X11R4. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Not-so-OT point of philosophy

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> I started internal medicine rotation at the Loma Linda VA Hospital today > and noted that the entire place is crawling with WinTerms (by Wyse, no less), > running WinCE, connected via Citrix to a Win2K Advanced Server host. There > are only a few "real" PCs there -- in fact, I think the Macs might outnumber > them. On a slightly related note, has anyone seen a VNC Terminal yet? I got an add for them a while back. While they're basically the same thing as a WinTerm, they strike me as being more usable as VNC is better supported than WinFrame. > Before all of you cry off-topic, doesn't it seem odd to anyone we're now > full circle and back to low-power terminals connected to a "mainframe," now > that corporate America has gotten off its fat client kick? Where I work PC's are basically used as X-Terminals that can run office apps if needed. If I understand this .NET thing (doubtful), it sounds to me like they're heading even closer to a Mainframe type style of computing. Zane

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Z-100 serial ports

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> > > 1st question -- found some info in the 2nd manual under "programming data" > > (I was looking for *hardware" data!): > > Well, I'd call it programming data. Hardware data would be the > schematics, how the signals are used, and so on... Okay, I'll grant you that bit of nomenclature ;>) I also managed to learn (God bless the Google Usenet archives!): lowest number (0E8 and 0EC) are the data ports, and the control ports are (data port + 1). > > 2661 Serial A (Printer Port) 0E8-0EB > > 2661 Serial B (Modem Port) 0EC-0EF > > Hey -- I'll bet Tony knows! > > Well, not off the top of my head I don't. But I do have a 2661 datasheet... Why am I not surprised? > OK, there are 4 8 bit locations in the chip. That's why it takes up 4 I/O > addresses. I'll give the states of the pins on the chip to access all the > internal registers, and you'll have to figure out how to use them. > Conventionally, the A0 pin on the chip is connected to the lowest address > line in the machine, and so on, but that's not definite. So you need to > find schematics, and so on. Got 'em! > > Anyway, the states are : [snip] > I am going to assume you're not going to be attempting to use synchronous > modes Correct assumption, it's asynch. You may recall that this project began after I was (unsuccessfully) attacked by virii four times during December. I want to use the Z-100 to send, retrieve, and read my email. Since my ISP doesn't provide shell accounts, I have to write code to deal with PPP and TCP/IP (also POP3 and SMTP, but those are cake), and all of this (including the OS) has to fit in 192Kb RAM. > That should get you started! > > -tony Yes, it *will* get me started -- thanks a million! Glen 0/0

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Christopher Smith wrote: > > Hear Hear. Though, I may listen when Athlons have casters and a > > respectable console firmware with "deposit" and "examine" commands, > > at least. Bonus points if you can't get them to run windows should > > your life depend on it. > Does it count if you can never remember your W2k password? > Seems like > I have to reinstall every time i boot to Windows. Wait. > *Everybody* has > to do that. Heh -- No, but maybe you should get extra points for pointing out the obvious, there ;) I'm pretty sure your RT counts on at least the point of having a proper system monitor, though. :) Honestly, I don't have many machines with wheels, myself.... I have two now, and a few that _should_ have wheels, but don't, which may also count... Gotta get one of those nice BA-123s for one of my MicroVAXen. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Not really 10 years - but a classic anyway

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 13:28, Ram Meenakshisundaram wrote: > Hi, > > I picked up a VFX1 virtual reality headset from ebay at a killer price. > Now the problem with the VFX1 is that the interface card is limited to > only 640x480x256 colors, whereas the VFX1 helmet can run in 16bit or > truecolor. To get stereoscopic mode, the VFX1 uses interlaced video to > send > even lines to one LCD and odd lines to the other LCD. What would it > take to > tap the VGA output and somehow determine which lines are even and which > lines > are odd and feed it to the helment directly? This is similar to the way > a TV works. This is very similar to the way LCD shutter glasses like CrystalEyes work. Try a web search for that? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 16:27, Christopher Smith wrote: > > From: Carlini, Antonio [mailto:Antonio.Carlini@riverstonenet.com] > > > That really is VT101 and not a typo (unless they > > messed up in the manual) so it looks like > > the VT131 is a modified VT100 series terminal. > > Indeed, I've been lead to believe that this was the case. > I've been assuming that is correct for now. It is. The VT131 has additional firmware. In the meantime, I've found my VT100 manual. A flashing "4" means keyboard faulty or nort present. For completeness, "2" means a memory fault, and "8" means a data error. "6" is the logical OR of "2" and "4", etc. If only the keyboard test fails, the terminal should go online in receive-only mode (ie it's useful as a display). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Not really 10 years - but a classic anyway

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 17:16, Ram Meenakshisundaram wrote: > Pete Turnbull wrote: > > > > > This is very similar to the way LCD shutter glasses like CrystalEyes work. > > Try a web search for that? > > > > LCD shutter glasses (which I also have), use page flipping to show the left > image > on the full screen then the right image on the full screen. The LCD glasses > "shutters" > between the two images so that the left eye sees the left image and the right > eye sees > nothing (a shutter is put on the other eye) and it flips back and forth > (sync'ed by the monitor). > Interlaced works differently. The right image is on the even lines and the > left image is on the odd > lines, so the resolution of the image is cut in half.... That's exactly how one of the modes on SGIs with CrystalEyes shutter glasses works. Even lines are on one frame and odd lines on the next, if the image is interlaced. The shutter glasses use the vsync pulses to switch sides between frames. That's why I suggested looking for information about CrystalEyes. The difference is simply that in the shutter types, you shut out one eye on odd frames and shut out the other on even frames, while on LCD displays you display one frame (eg, the odd frame) on the left and the next frame (even) on the right. Either way, interlaced or not, it's alternate frames to alternate eyes. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Bell & Howell Apple II update II

by csmith＠amdocs.com

It's working guys. Thanks a lot for all of your help. In the interest of public information: The BNC connectors do, indeed, carry composite video. These (at least the model I have) contain a "kill switch" in the little add-on that's bolted to the back of the machine. In order to get power to the internal power supply, you must have the switch depressed -- or the "cover lock" bolt in the locked position. Thanks again guys. Err -- anybody know a good way to run some diagnostics on the machine? :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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IRIS Power Series power supply questions

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Hi everybody, In preparation for my eventual booting of the IRIS Power Series machine, I pulled the back off yesterday and inspected the power supply, etc. It appears that somebody disconnected several plugs and some screw-posts when they pulled the unit out of service (!)... Anyway, to make a long story short, I had to make several assumptions in order to get the thing back together. Here they are, and can anyone confirm or deny them? The square-ish plugs should all be plugged in to the plug they match. (I thought this one was pretty safe.) The three loose post-screws go to the three wires that were just floating around loose (coming directly (more or less) out of the twist-lok plug. These screws are labeled N~, L~, and <earth symbol> The Earth pin on the twist-lok plug is the longer one. (made sense to me, but I can't find anything to confirm it...) The L~ probably stands "Live" or something like that (?) The N~ probably means "Negative" The positive lead on the twist-lok plug is the one that has the breaker on it. Given that logic: The L~, being positive, should be attached to the wire with the breaker in it. The wire connected to the long pin on the plug should be connected to the <earth symbol> connector. The other wire should be connected to the only loose-screw left. There is further evidence in the way the wires were bent, which suggests that this is all correct. Has anyone see these things before, and can possibly confirm this? Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Is this a IBM RT mouse?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/26/2002 7:28:44 PM Central Standard Time, Innfogra(a)aol.com writes: > Someone mentioned the RT mouse has two round buttons. I have had this mouse > in my collection and have been wondering what it was for. > > Http://members.aol.com/innfogra/IBMMS1.JPG > > Yup, that's it! Anyone claimed it yet? I'd like it for my RT. I think, therefore I am dangerous --

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, Tony Duell wrote: > I am going to assume that the 'scope addresses the printer (it doesn't > require the printer to be set to Listen Always mode) and that it doesn't > do anything too exotic (actually, I don't think the Thinkjet does > anything that strange). OK.... > > Set the DIP switch on the interface so that the leftmost switch is down > (this sets it to 'translator' mode) and set a suitable HPIB address on > the other switches (there's a table on the bottom of the 82169 if you get > confused :-). Connect the Thinkjet to the 82169 with a couple of HPIL > cables. Connect the HPIB cable to the other side of the 82169. Connect > power to everything. > > Now configure the scope to expect a printer at an address 1 more than you > set on the DIP switches (the _interface's_ address is set by the DIP > switches -- that is to say that's the address you send commands to to > configure the 82169. The HPIL peripherals are assigned subsequent addresses). > > Try printing something. If you're lucky it'll work... I gave it a shot...I can't find any way to tell the scope what address to use for the printer. When I tell it to print, it says "<HP-IB> No listeners - Transmission Aborted". I assume this means it can't directly address an arbitrary HPIB device, only something set to "listen only"? This is the only time I've used HPIB and had things not "just work". :) I can set the scope to talk only, listen only, or talk/listen. In talk/listen mode it allows me to set its HPIB address, but not in the other modes. Any suggestions? Thanks, -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Carlini, Antonio [mailto:Antonio.Carlini@riverstonenet.com] > That really is VT101 and not a typo (unless they > messed up in the manual) so it looks like > the VT131 is a modified VT100 series terminal. Indeed, I've been lead to believe that this was the case. I've been assuming that is correct for now. > I've missed the rest of the thread ... is there > a part number on the keyboard? No identifying marks whatsoever, that I can see. :/ > There is a pocket service guide for the VT100 at: Thanks for the links. I'll see what they can tell me. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Christopher Smith wrote: > >Yep. :) That's what I thought, anyway... So I'm assuming for now the >keyboard is bad, or incompatible. Perhaps I could modify it either way, >given the schematics for the keyboard... If it helps, the VT131 manual lists the following for the print set: MP-01066 VT101 Family Field Maintenance Print Set That really is VT101 and not a typo (unless they messed up in the manual) so it looks like the VT131 is a modified VT100 series terminal. I've missed the rest of the thread ... is there a part number on the keyboard? There is a pocket service guide for the VT100 at: http://208.190.133.201/decimages/moremanuals.htm (I've since found an original, so I can probably do a better scan at some stage). There are also two directories worth of VT100 stuff over at: http://www.mainecoon.com/classiccmp/ Antonio arcarlini(a)iee.org

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IIgs Rom 1 vs Rom 3

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

RE: ROM1 vs ROM3. Your best bet is ask in the apple // newsgroup where you could get a correct answer very quickly. FAQs are posted there regularly as well. I think, therefore I am dangerous --

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com [mailto:pete@dunnington.u-net.com] > > The reason I'm asking about the brand is that there was another > > terminal at the junk yard, completely trashed, which looked like > > a VT100, but had a completely different branding. I forget the > > brand right off, but I'm afraid I may have picked up the keyboard > > for the dead terminal, and that it may not be compatible at all. > Maybe a Plessey terminal? I had two which looked just like a > VT100 from > the outside, but had different (Plessey-made) logic inside, and > incompatible keyboards. Possibly -- I don't remember the branding right off. The problem, though, is that this is the only vt100-looking keyboard they have. :/ So if it's not the right one, (my current assumption until I figure out something else), then I'm at a loss as to where to find one. > I vaguely remember something like a flashing "4" in the top > corner of my > VT131 if the keyboard wasn't connected. Maybe not exactly that, but > something of the sort. Mine does that too -- the same flashing 4 I get when the keyboard _is_ plugged in. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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IRIS Power Series power supply questions

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net] > I've got three deskside single tower machines myself. If you > can wait a > few days, I'll pull the plates off of one and take a few digital pics. Please do. I certainly won't be plugging it in that soon at any rate. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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IRIS Power Series power supply questions

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com [mailto:pete@dunnington.u-net.com] > Yes. The reasoning is that the earth connection should > always be the first > one made and the last one broken in normal connection/disconnection. My assumption too. It seemed the sensible thing. > Yes. The live wire is always the one with the switch, > breaker and/or fuse, > unless it's a two-pole breaker (one pole for live, one for neutral) of > course. Only one of the three prongs is ever broken, so it's likely safe to assume that it's the positive one. Thanks. I feel somewhat better about it. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Caster?? (was: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 10:27, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote: > I was under the impression that casters were only for very lightweight > stuff that was intended to be movable by one person without a forklift, or > even a dolly. York had a large Sequent machine on castors. It took eight people to move it. Nine, actually. Eight to push, and one to collect up broken castors. Leeds had an Ahmdahl which had all the cabinets on castors. I have some of the castors (the only souvenir they let me keep), and they're rated for 250kg each. They're rather bigger than the ones on the Sequent :-) Our present tape backup system, which weighs the best part of a ton, is on four castors. Actually, lots of large machines, old and new, are on castors, but they tend to have jackscrews as well. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Bell & Howell Apple II update II

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Smith" <csmith(a)amdocs.com> > > The BNC connectors do, indeed, carry composite video. > Yes, they do. In fact, I just saw one carrying DC power. It > was part of an > adapter at the other side of which were two banana plugs. > Don't ask me why. Well, I've taken a guess at what you're replying to... Let me know if I'm way off. :) I was referring to these specific BNC connectors on the Apple II. It's interesting, though, that someone would use BNC to carry power. On the other hand, there are some points where the huge variety of plugs available (which carry the same signal) is ridiculous. Sometimes I think the world would be better off using, for instance, banana plugs, for everything. (Don't cross the wires! -- unless you really mean it.) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 12:26, Christopher Smith wrote: > Another weekend project of mine has been working on a VT131 > terminal. The terminal seems to work fine when receiving data. > > The terminal always powers up with a "4" in the corner > (keyboard error?). Typing characters on the keyboard will give > no response from either the terminal, or the system to which > it's connected. The lights flash (all at once), and the speaker > beeps when power is applied to the terminal. No lights are ever > activated afterwards, though. > > Having taken apart the keyboard, it does have an empty socket for > a DIP. Anyone know what this is? I gave away my VT131 a few weeks ago so I don't know :-( > Is it possible that this is a "lookalike" keyboard? Did DEC make > different models for different VT100 terminals -- were they > compatible? If this is an authentic DEC keyboard, will it be > marked as such somewhere? If so, how? > > The key layout _looks_ like VT100, but... The keyboard is the same as that for a VT100. There are more setup options, but the only significant difference is that the sticker on the underside has more places to record them :-) My VT131 actually had a VT101 keyboard. > The reason I'm asking about the brand is that there was another > terminal at the junk yard, completely trashed, which looked like > a VT100, but had a completely different branding. I forget the > brand right off, but I'm afraid I may have picked up the keyboard > for the dead terminal, and that it may not be compatible at all. Maybe a Plessey terminal? I had two which looked just like a VT100 from the outside, but had different (Plessey-made) logic inside, and incompatible keyboards. > Failing a way to positively identify the keyboard, are there any > common modes of failure along these lines? > > Also, I'm guessing at this point that the terminal is in good shape. > Does anyone know where to get a keyboard? I vaguely remember something like a flashing "4" in the top corner of my VT131 if the keyboard wasn't connected. Maybe not exactly that, but something of the sort. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com] > Additional bonus points awarded if the only boot mechanism > was a 9-track > tape drive that required you to disconnect your dryer as part of the > boot-up process....... Even more if it requires some manual intervention in octal before the boot process can begin. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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IRIS Power Series power supply questions

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 12:17, Christopher Smith wrote: > Hi everybody, > > In preparation for my eventual booting of the IRIS Power Series > machine, I pulled the back off yesterday and inspected the power > supply, etc. [...] > The square-ish plugs should all be plugged in to the plug they > match. (I thought this one was pretty safe.) That would be my assumption too. > The three loose post-screws go to the three wires that were just > floating around loose (coming directly (more or less) out of the > twist-lok plug. These screws are labeled N~, L~, and <earth > symbol> > > The Earth pin on the twist-lok plug is the longer one. (made sense > to me, but I can't find anything to confirm it...) > > The L~ probably stands "Live" or something like that (?) > > The N~ probably means "Negative" L is Live (or Line in the US), N is Neutral. > The positive lead on the twist-lok plug is the one that has the > breaker on it. > > Given that logic: > > The L~, being positive, should be attached to the wire with the > breaker in it. Yes. > The wire connected to the long pin on the plug should be connected > to the <earth symbol> connector. Yes. The reasoning is that the earth connection should always be the first one made and the last one broken in normal connection/disconnection. > The other wire should be connected to the only loose-screw left. > > There is further evidence in the way the wires were bent, which > suggests that this is all correct. > > Has anyone see these things before, and can possibly confirm this? Yes. The live wire is always the one with the switch, breaker and/or fuse, unless it's a two-pole breaker (one pole for live, one for neutral) of course. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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HPIL ISA card

by pcw＠mesanet.com

Whilst rooting through a junk box looking for something else, I found this HP ISA HPIL interface card 82973-60001. Free for shipping... Peter Wallace

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What's an Intel Series 90?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

above. It looks like some kind of memory system for VMS and possibly others. Joe

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Need source for high current HP type (with dimple) 14 or 16AWG 110vac power cord

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 9:28, r. 'bear' stricklin wrote: > I brought home a pair of SGI Onyx RealityEngine2 systems yesterday, and > had just sat down to see if I could determine how much effort it would > take to locate power cords to fit them. Then I see that Russ has done my > homework for me. Nice! One in each pocket, was it? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Pertec controller

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, John Allain wrote: > Ciprico Tapemaster Pertec tape controller. > I don't know what bus it is, VME or whatever > but here's a details: > 6 1/2" x 12" overall > 43 pads at 4mm each > a 1+ inch space, then > 30 pads at 0.1 inch each. > > Doesn't fit anything I have so it's yours for shipping. FYI, this is a Multibus-I card. It was commonly used in Sun-2 systems, and some older Sun-3 systems with VME<->Multibus adapters. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com] > Oh! And don't forget - requires you to shut off other less critical > electrical applicances in the house, things like > "refrigerators" and "air > conditioners"...... > > : ) > > Sorry, this was *way* too much fun...... ... and even on-topic. :) How about: Your handheld electronic organizer has more RAM... There are enough light-generating components on the system to allow one to read comfortably in an otherwise dark room. You must wait until winter to run it, and open the windows to cool the room off (since you can't run the air conditioner at the same time. The boards' form factor is something on the order of a complete "large" modern desktop system. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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C3-SI

by dogas＠bellsouth.net

> > OSI bus is 12bit address and data. > > err... 20bit address, 12bit data... > > ;) > - Mike: dogas(a)bellsouth.net

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Wanted: DEC Lisp PAK

by wlewis＠mailbag.com

Oh, I've spoken to the good folks at Encompass and Montagar. (No-one directly at Compaq has ever replied to my emails.) There is apparently an Intellectual property issue that prevents them from including the old DEC Lisp in the free list. It also has to do with the fact that DEC stopped shipping the product in 1993. Hence, I'm trying to see if I can find someone with the old piece of paper so that I could convince Compaq to let me transfer the license to me. I'm just a nut who would like to legally run some antique software. As for faking the license, I don't know of anyway to hack out the PAK system... > William, > > Is http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/ and the list of products your > problem? - Indeed, I cannot see LISP there, but they won't want you to > fake a license in order to make the software run, will they? ;-) > > Did you talk to them and mention that several other programming > languages are part of the hobbyist program? > > Andreas > > William Barnett-Lewis wrote: > > > > Longshot, but someone here might have one or know where to find one. (snip) > - -- > Andreas Freiherr > Vishay Semiconductor GmbH, Heilbronn, Germany > http://www.vishay.com William -- You better watch out What you wish for; It better be worth it So much to die for. Courtney Love

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Bell & Howell Apple II update II

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Christopher Smith wrote: > > It's working guys. Thanks a lot for all of your help. > > In the interest of public information: > > The BNC connectors do, indeed, carry composite video. > Can THIS finally put to rest the assertion that BNCs were not used for > video?? Well, you don't have to convince me. ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Caster?? (was: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, Chad Fernandez wrote: > I was under the impression that big systems usually had casters. Don't > the big Vax's have wheels? Vax 6000, 7000, and 8000 series? They certainly do. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Caster?? (was: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > I was under the impression that casters were only for very lightweight > stuff that was intended to be movable by one person without a > forklift, or > even a dolly. You're right. That should have been "at least" casters. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Searching for old DEC 12V frontpanel bulbs

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

I'm restoring some pre-TTL DEC stuff (R and W series logic) and I need a handful of front panel bulbs. Unlike the later bulbs with a plastic base and strong wires to solder to the PCB or to plug into socket pins, these are like a kernel of corn, with two fine wires coming out of the glass envelope at a slight angle with no supports of any kind. Some of the bulbs have burned-out filiaments. Many of the ones I need to replace have broken wires externally. I am going to attempt to solder new wires to the stub, but I don't expect the attempt to be an overwhelming success. I might try a harder solder so that when I put them back in the frontpanel PCB, they won't give way when I put enough heat on the other end to install them. About all I know about these bulbs is that they are fed a nominal 12VDC >from the W-series driver boards. The front panel itself is literally just a PCB and a bunch of bulbs; no active circuits (unlike, say, the front panel of a PDP-8/L). Testing should be easy - feed 12VDC at a few mA to each set of fingers and check the bulbs, one by one. If DEC was underfeeding these bulbs to extend their life, I would expect that the bulb should be rated at 14V-16V. I measured slightly over 12VDC in circuit, but well within a 5% tolerance. I have checked the online manuals I could find, but no mention is made of the nature of the bulbs for 1966/1967-era DEC equipment. Any ideas? -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

Oh! And don't forget - requires you to shut off other less critical electrical applicances in the house, things like "refrigerators" and "air conditioners"...... : ) Sorry, this was *way* too much fun...... - Matt At 11:56 AM 1/28/2002 -0600, you wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com] > > > Additional bonus points awarded if the only boot mechanism > > was a 9-track > > tape drive that required you to disconnect your dryer as part of the > > boot-up process....... > >Even more if it requires some manual intervention in octal before the >boot process can begin. :) > >Chris > > >Christopher Smith, Perl Developer >Amdocs - Champaign, IL > >/usr/bin/perl -e ' >print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); >' > Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

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Not really 10 years - but a classic anyway

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

Hi, I picked up a VFX1 virtual reality headset from ebay at a killer price. Now the problem with the VFX1 is that the interface card is limited to only 640x480x256 colors, whereas the VFX1 helmet can run in 16bit or truecolor. To get stereoscopic mode, the VFX1 uses interlaced video to send even lines to one LCD and odd lines to the other LCD. What would it take to tap the VGA output and somehow determine which lines are even and which lines are odd and feed it to the helment directly? This is similar to the way a TV works. Searching though the net yielding the following hack: http://www.lpc.ufri.br/~dmendes/new_page_1.htm (use altavista to translate from Portugese) But he feeds the same signal to both LCDs thus stereo is lost. Any comments? Tony?? Ram -- ,,,, /'^'\ ( o o ) -oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------- | Ram Meenakshisundaram | | Senior Software Engineer | | OpenLink Financial Inc | | .oooO Phone: (516) 227-6600 x267 | | ( ) Oooo. Email: rmeenaks(a)olf.com | ---\ (----( )-------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/

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