January 2002 - test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org

by red＠bears.org

Hey, based on what some folks were saying on list earlier in the month, I grabbed a small quantity of RS/6000 cables, which I'm offering for my cost ($2) plus shipping. FRU 74F3135 10-pin ("dual5") plug <-> miniDIN-8 I can't speculate as to what its original purpose might've been, but perhaps some of you might find it useful for your older RS/6000s. ok r.

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Looking for a WD 1001 55 Disk controller

by g-wright＠worldnet.att.net

Hi I'm trying to get a Molecular going. it has Bad disk controller. WD 1001 55 Does anyone have one of theses that they can spare. I have 1000 series But there is a difference. E-mail me at address below Thanks, Jerry Jerry Wright JLC inc. g-wright(a)worldnet.att.net (new)

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 29, 10:14, Christopher Smith wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com [mailto:pete@dunnington.u-net.com] > > > "4", etc. If > > only the keyboard test fails, the terminal should go online > > in receive-only > > mode (ie it's useful as a display). > > It does that... :) Would like to type things, though. You seem to have the "look, don't touch option" favoured by some museums. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Packrat genome project questions

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Ford [mailto:mikeford@socal.rr.com] > How many people on this list still have their 1st computer? > second? third? > every computer you ever used/owned? Well, the first computer I used was an apple II+, and a IIe after that. I have one of each now, but not the same model. My parents owned a TRS-80 color computer, then a Sperry PC compatible machine, neither of which I have at this point. They also had a "Leading Technology" 386, and a Compaq 486, neither of which I would want, since I have my share of that class of machine. The first computer _I_ ever owned was an AT&T Unix PC, and yes, I still have that. You could say that was my introduction to collecting "classic computers." It was more than 10 years old by the time I got it, and required some work to get it running. It was rescued from the trash. Its name is "Sprite" -- so called after the drink, since its green screen contrasted sharply with all other computers I'd seen recently (at that time). I was just working on it over this last weekend. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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HP JetDirect for Apple??

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 29, 6:56, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > --- Russ Blakeman <rhblakeman(a)kih.net> wrote: > > What jetdirect cards are you looking for - in other words for which HP > > printers? I work in these things all the time and come across sources of > > various ones from time to time. Also which ethernet - 10baseT, 10/100? > > With BNC or without? > > Personally, _I'm_ looking for an HP JetDirect card for my LJ-IIID. I'd > prefer 10BaseT over 10Base2. I wouldn't say no to a 10/100 card, but I > doubt there was one for this old printer. I think some of the later cards do fit, probably ones for a LaserJet V. > The card I'm looking for should have multi-protocol support - Unix, > Apple and PeeCee. If I had a part number, I'd list it, but I know > they made such things. The normal interfaces were J2550A (10baseT only), J2552A (10baseT/10base2/Localtalk), J2555A (Token Ring). You can upgrade the firmware if it's very old, and it does support all the common protocols (lpr, Novell, Applesquawk, ...). Whether the printer/interface supports them all *at the same time* depends on the printer, not the interface. Some printers, like the IIISi, LJ4/4M and most DesignJets are single-protocol and can only be configured to handle one at a time; if you want to use a different protocol you have to reconfigure the printer. Others, like the 4Si and later, and my DeskJet 1600, can handle all at the same time, and switch between them according to what arrives on the interface(s). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Need info: Applied Microsystems 8080/8085 Diagnostic Emulator

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Does anyone know anything about the item above? I've seen these before but this is the first one that I've found with the pod and this one seems to work. I've posted a picture at <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/app-u-sy.jpg> . I know it's big but I wanted to capture as much detail as possible. joe

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Need info: Applied Microsystems 8080/8085

by aek＠spies.com

I have the AMS Z80 and 6809 manuals on line at www.spies.com/arcade/TE If I can scan the 8080 manual Sellam has, I'll put that up as well.

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DesqView

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Has anyone been able to access the site they claimed had it for download? I've wanted a copy of this since it came out! Does Symantec have their own download site? Zane > > No wonder has mentioned this, so I thought I would throw it into the Classic > mixer: > > http://slashdot.org/articles/02/01/27/1950244.shtml > Quote: > "It seems Symantec (purchasers of former company Quarterdeck) has release > DeskView/X into public domain and can be downloaded now. DesqView/X was a

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Hayes Micromodem II / microcoupler (was: Re: Is this a IBM RT mouse?)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> wrote: > Oh yeah? Well, I've got the original Hayes modem product: the DC Hayes > modem for the S-100 bus :) Hayes made two modems for the S-100 bus. The first (ca. 1978) was the 80-103A, the second was the Micromodem 100 (using the same Microcoupler as the original Micromodem II for the Apple). -Frank McConnell

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Hayes Micromodem II / microcoupler (was: Re: Is this a IBM RT mouse?)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> wrote: > I did recall that the Micromodel 100 used the Microcoupler but then I > remembered the 80-103A didn't. The 80-103A used a device (which I'm now > forgetting the name of--damn cold) that you had to get from the phone > company in order to use it, back in the days of Ma Bell who was oh so > strict and oh so paranoid about what you plugged into her. DAA, short for Data Access Arrangement. -Frank McConnell

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Nah, you can put Minix on an HP LX palmtop, which is smaller and lighter than a Poqet (see http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/minix.html). BTW, Last year Thaddeus had a number (about 4000!) of 1.5MB SRAM cards on sale (unadvertised) for 5 for $25. Check the message at http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/0104/msg00231.html. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Smith [mailto:csmith@amdocs.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:59 AM To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' Subject: RE: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?) > -----Original Message----- > From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] > Well, if I have my way, my Gateway Handbook will be a > smaller Unix > box... 10" x 6" x 1.5" ;-) > And it just squeaks by 10 years old too ( I think, maybe 9...) I have been thinking about putting Minix on my Poqet PC, which would probably take the record. ;) I need a 2M SRAM card or two, though. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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That's not a _real_ computer(Was: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payo la?))

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Lawrence Walker [mailto:lgwalker@mts.net] > On the other hand MY TRS80 5meg HD is bigger than your XT, > and my pre-Sprint Qume power supply is known to dim lights in > the neighborhood. And it don't use no steenking, cheating, 220V > power source. I read that as "TRS80 Smeg HD" :) Are you sure you're not exaggerating? TRS-80s themselves wouldn't be that big without the monitor attached. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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StorageTek drive

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I just picked up a *really cool* 9 track StorageTek drive on Saturday (thanks Jon!). I'm having trouble trying to find docs for one to indicate possible diagnostic routine #'s (I've entered all 256 combinations, and not observed too much interesting). The model number seems to be something like this (assuming it has a real model #): 4000002383-4 Also, does anyone have a QBus PERTEC card they would be willing to part with? Or, does anyone know of a source for an ISA or PCI card that is supported under some sane OS (Winders or Linux preferred)? -- Pat

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Looking for a M200 card reader WITH card weight

by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

Does anyone here have a M200 card reader with the card weight? What I need is a good picture of the card weight, so I can attempt to obtain one for my card reader. Yes, there are people who have these card weights available, but its extremely difficult to describe something I havent seen for 20 years myself, just using words ;) -Lawrence LeMay

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IIgs Rom 1 vs Rom 3

by mythtech＠Mac.com

What is the difference between a Rom 1 and a Rom 3 Apple IIgs? I have 4 IIgs's sitting in my garage (law of aquisition... I wanted a IIgs for years, finally bought one, then I get 4 given to me for free!). It looks like I have two different styles (based on opening the lid and looking inside), one has a two rom chips, one has one rom chip (among other differences). I would guess they are Rom 1 and Rom 3 machines (I can tell by booting them right? the starting splash tells me? or how is it determined?). But what is the difference between a Rom 1 and a Rom 3 machine (besides a Rom 3 being newer I assume). Is one better than the other? What changes were made to the machines? (from the looks of the logic board, one of the two styles looks like it might have more ram on board... but maybe they just used a different chip and needed more of them... I don't know). Anywhere these details are listed out? I did a google seach, but didn't see anything fantastically helpful. So I am turning to the logical starting point to find this stuff out... the experts on classic computer hardware. Also, two of the four have a Ram upgrade board in it. All sockets are filled with chips, so how much Ram is that? 1mb? Or does it depend on the board and/or the chips (they are Apple branded boards). Are these upgrade boards usable in any IIgs (rom 1 or rom 3), the slot for it is in both style logic boards, so I would assume it works for both... but before I go swapping them around and frying something, I figured I would ask. TIA -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!]

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>BTW the modern method, which I do not have, >is to get a digital camcorder with "firewire" and >the same for your PC, and just download. >Apparently the camcorder stores in MPEG. The few times I have done it, I do similar to that. My camcorder has an anolog to digital passthru. So I can play an analog source (like a VHS tape), pass it into the camcorder, which passes it along to the firewire port and into my iMac. I then just use iMovie to capture it, and then export as Toast VCD format. Chews up a bit of space as iMovie only captures in DV format (which is freaking huge because it is supposed to be lossless), and I also need the additional space to store the VCD formated MPEG before burning, since I can't export directly to the burner. But it works for shorter clips (The longest I have tried is a 7 minute Tex Avery cartoon... but I could probably do up to an hour or so on my 60 gig drive... not sure) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Smith > Hear Hear. Though, I may listen when Athlons have casters > and a respectable console firmware with "deposit" and > "examine" commands, at least. Bonus points if you can't get > them to run windows should your life depend on it. Ehh -- I never actually had thought this may become necessary, but... Since there was a somewhat nasty response to the original post which this was in reply, I should state clearly that I'm at least half-joking ;) On the other hand, I _would_ find any system which meets the above requirements more impressive than one that does not. I'd also like to offer a sincere (and hopefully non-offensive *fingers crossed*) request to all the people on this list who've been having (occasionally personal) flame-wars recently to lighten up some. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Packrat genome project questions

by kapteynr＠cboe.com

I personally get attached to these things, and I have had access to lots of storage space. So I have every computer I ever owned, and they all work (last time I checked). The first I ever used was a PDP8-L running FOCAL that someone donated to my high school in 1974. When I went to another school, the Altair 8800 came out, and I got one right away. During college and work, I had access to DECs and mainframes. My next "personal" machine was a Fortune Systems 68000 based unix box. Then an Apple Mac II Powermac 6100 Now I am awash in various PCs and Macs. -Rob -----Original Message----- From: Mike Ford [SMTP:mikeford@socal.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:29 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Packrat genome project questions How many people on this list still have their 1st computer? second? third? every computer you ever used/owned? The first computer I ever used was a IBM 360 via punched cards in Fortran. First I ever sat in front of and worked on directly was an IBM 1130 via selectric console running a French version of APL. First I ever owned was a Apple II, which I still have. Same for the next five I owned/used; Mac Plus, Mac IIx, Mac 7200/90, Starmax 4160, and my Athlon based PC.

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Old 9-track tape data

by pb＠Colorado.EDU

I wonder if anyone can give me suggestions on the "best" way to get data (not all that much) off of some old 9-track tapes I have. They are all written with tar, on BSD 4.1-4.3 and BSD 2.8-2.9. If I was smart, the tapes are all written at 800 or 1600 bpi; I may not have been, and one or more may be at 6250 (?) bpi. I would be delighted to hear two types of offers: (1) someone in the Denver area who has the proper hardware and software, and to whom I can bring the tapes and some other medium (1.4/2.8 meg floppy; 100 meg zip) and extract the files; (2) someone with the proper hardware and software who would be willing for me to ship them the tapes, and make the data (tar files) available to me via ftp. I would certainly entertain other reasonable possibilities, as well. Thanks in advance. (This must not be a terribly uncommon "problem," right?) PB Schechter

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Gateway Handbook [was: RE: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola? )]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Got the Handbook all together, no extra parts or screws laying around, wait a minute... ..except for the darned plastic/foil sleeve that the HDD is supposed to be in!!! Grrr..... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Packrat genome project questions

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>How many people on this list still have their 1st computer? second? third? >every computer you ever used/owned? The only computer I *owned* that I don't still have is my Lisa (it was a 2 I believe). All the others I still have, and are still operational (although not in use). Although, with the exception of my personal Mac SE, I can't say for 100% sure that the computers I have are the actual computers that were at my house growing up. There was much swapping between home and my father's company, so the ones I now have in my custody may actually have been company purchased ones, and not the "original" ones at my house (but they are all the same model... Apple II+, 128k Mac, Mac Plus and up from there) In addition, I still have in my custody at least one of every model/type of computer I have used on a regular basis (I don't count things that I sat down at somewhere, played with for 5 minutes, and then moved on). That includes things like an IBM 5110, IBM System 23, IBM PC, XT, AT, PCjr, Apple IIe, and up from there. The only things I used on a regular basis that I do NOT own (or more correctly, have in my custody, as technically I don't own things like the IBM 5110), are a Commodore PET, a Northstar (Advantage ?), and a Kaypro II. I doubt I will ever bother getting those (well, maybe a PET) because I am out of room, and have had to start to narrow down what I keep/collect... so things like a Commodore 64 was just passed on to someone else (although, someplace I have two more of them, just not complete systems like I just gave away... when I dig them up, I will pass them on as well) I also don't count things like the numurous, nameless, AT clones that have passed thru my hands... I lump them all into the "type" catagory, so my IBM AT counts for all the 286 and AT clones, and I have a 386, 486, and so on... but like some of the machines I have had to dump do to space, I will probably cease to worry about those, and narrow it down to just the ones I consider to be "cool". -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Shameless Plug!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 29, Joe wrote: > > Hey...On your other auction, the one for the transmission test > >set...In the leftmost rack in the background, at the top...Would that > >happen to be a TrueTime GPS, WWVB, or GOES time standard? I think I > >recognize the color and the rack handle. :) > > I have two GEOS time standards but I need antennas for them. Any idea > where I can find some? cheap? It's a circularly polarized signal so it's > not your typical antenna. Nope, I'm looking for one myself. :-( I will let you know if I find any, but I've all but given up. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Packrat genome project questions

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

First computer used: ??, fed it punchcards to do an analysis of Melanesian blood groups at Harvard grad school, 1972. First computer owned: Osborne 1, 1981. My wife wanted me to get rid of it, so I stripped out the insides so my son could fiddle with the boards (he hasn't, so I still have them intact), and tossed the case. BTW, if anyone needs parts for an O1, DD, 80 column upgrade, contact me. 2nd computer owned: Otrona Attache 8:16 -- still have (and intend to keep for a while). 1st PC: An XT-Turbo clone (1986), which I installed in a smaller than normal cherry-stained plywood box, power supply uncased and hung over the motherboard, expansion slots running side-to-side rather than front-to-back; open frame 9" monitor, bare Cherry keyboard. Still have the CPU and keyboard, tossed the monitor. Latest computers acquired: Poqet PQ-0181, HP 95LX, HP 200LX (is there a pattern here?). Bob -----Original Message----- From: Mike Ford [mailto:mikeford@socal.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:29 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Packrat genome project questions How many people on this list still have their 1st computer? second? third? every computer you ever used/owned? The first computer I ever used was a IBM 360 via punched cards in Fortran. First I ever sat in front of and worked on directly was an IBM 1130 via selectric console running a French version of APL. First I ever owned was a Apple II, which I still have. Same for the next five I owned/used; Mac Plus, Mac IIx, Mac 7200/90, Starmax 4160, and my Athlon based PC.

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TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Anybody got one for sale? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > ---------- > From: Passer, Michael W. > Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:10 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!] > > I've done it with an Atari 2600. Works great (this was with a Gateway > OEM Bt848 card.) > > --Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:41 PM > To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' > Subject: TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!] > > > ! -----Original Message----- > ! From: Gareth Knight [mailto:gknight@emugaming.com] > ! > ! Simon wrote: > ! > Please say me, how it works! I want to convert my VHS into > ! > mpg-Files, but it > ! > doesn't work, only the Convertion of mpg to VHS works. > ! > ! For low-end conversion from VHS to MPG you can use a cheap TV > ! card, such as > ! those made by Pinaccle or Hauppage. This will allow you to > ! view the analog > ! signal of your video and record it as an AVI or MPG. I recommend ! > http://www.tv-cards.com/ for more information ! -- ! Gareth Knight > > You know, I should pick up one of those, so I can have a display > for my C128 (and Atari800) on my Win98 box. Finally put it to something > useful... > Seriously, is anyone else doing that? > > --- David A Woyciesjes > --- C & IS Support Specialist > --- Yale University Press > --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu > --- (203) 432-0953 > --- ICQ # - 905818 > >

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a VAX 11/780 in my garage ...

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

I wrote : >There's a bunch of manuals up already at: > http://208.190.133.201/decimages/moremanuals.htm > >I've already let them have a few more ... the install And now that I look, it seems that the latest stuff I sent popped up today! So the HW UG, Diag guide and one (of the many?) install guides are now there. (I should point out that all I did was scan them - the credit goes to Alain Nierveze who photocopied them and posted them my way). Antonio

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Gateway Handbook [was: RE: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > > > I wonder, what kind/size drive is in there? Can it be upgraded? > > ---------- > From: Doc > > AFAIK, standard 2.5" IDE. John ain't shy about disassembling his > toys, and the last resort idea was to pull the hdd, put it in a > desktop, install Linux, and put it back, so I bet it's IDE. > > ---------- > From: David Woyciesjes > > Hmmm, Probably could stick it into my Multia, which could run NT from a > SCSI drive, stick stuff on that way. Hey, if it's a standard 2.5" IDE > (a.k.a. laptop) drive, what's stopping us from sticking in something > bigger capacity? I can't remember what the HDD size limit is in DOS 5.0... > > ---------- Well, I got curious and cracked mine open... According to the User's Guide, it is IDE. And it is 2.5" size. Except one neat difference. To take care of the height restriction inside the case, they moved the drive controller board to _behind_ the drive, taken out from under it...So now it's physical size is 2.75" x 0.375"(3/8") x 6". Looks like just a special board, on a standard drive case. BTW, it's a JVC Model JDF2042M10-1. I'll have to Google that later, and see if I can find more info... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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IRIS Power Series power supply questions

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > OK, Neutral, Live (or Line) and Earth (or Ground). Ok, thanks for the correction on this, by the way. > What colour are the 3 loose wires ? Try one of the following > colour sets > : > US Old UK New UK/European/International? > Earth Green Green Green/Yellow > Neutral White Black Blue > Live Black Red Brown I think it's actually blue, brown, and white. Blue being neutral, brown live, and white earth, it seems. I could take the panel off and check, but I'm not at home right now. > Of course it might be something non-standard, but if those are the > colours, it's a good bet that's how they're used. Very close to the third option above, but not quite. Maybe it's a really pale yellow ;) > wrong term (again, no meaning for 'positive' with AC), but > you've come to > the right conclusion. Well, I guess it's better to sound inexperienced than to make things explode. :) > That's how I'd wire it... Never seen one, though, so I can't > be _certain_ Well, we're in nearly the same boat here. This is the only one I've seen, and it has all the wires loose. ;) Thanks again, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Here I Am

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 29, Huw Davies wrote: > > > There is something to be said for not just trying to > > > run on everything under the sun - and that directly translates into > > > stability of the OS. > > > >So, suddenly windows runs stable, just because they support x86 only ? > > Well NT on Alpha was significantly more stable than NT on Intel mainly > because there were only a limited number of supported (or even available) > configurations. What amazes me about Windows is not that it crashes often > but that it runs at all given the mix of hardware that it attempts to support. The BSDs and Linux support tons of hardware too...and they're more stable than windows will ever be. I think the simple fact remains...windows just sucks. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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1520 plotter (was RE: Your VIC-20 is worth $300!!! W@W!)

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>"tatty polys"? It sounds British, but I have no idea what it is. tatty (adj.) - in less than pristine condition polys (n.) - white polystyrene inserts in the box used to stop your tiny games console from flying around an oversized box during transportation Personally I'm more worried about working contents rather than the MIB stuff. HTH, Antonio

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Doc > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > > > I wonder, what kind/size drive is in there? Can it be upgraded? > > AFAIK, standard 2.5" IDE. John ain't shy about disassembling his > toys, and the last resort idea was to pull the hdd, put it in a > desktop, install Linux, and put it back, so I bet it's IDE. > Hmmm, Probably could stick it into my Multia, which could run NT from a SCSI drive, stick stuff on that way. Hey, if it's a standard 2.5" IDE (a.k.a. laptop) drive, what's stopping us from sticking in something bigger capacity? I can't remember what the HDD size limit is in DOS 5.0... > > It is a Neat Thing, isn' tit? Let me know if I can be of help. I have > the > > null modem cable, floppy drive, 2 power supplies... > > Didn't know there was a floppy option available.... But that would be > cheating. The challenge that started the flame war (which, of course, I > avoided completely... not) was how to make it boot a Linux kernel & > pcmcia drivers without floppy drive or CD.... > > Doc > Yep. The floppy plugs into the funny looking parallel port in the back of the Handbook, and gives you a regular parallel port, and a second serial port. I also have the battery pack that holds 6 AA batteries to power it. My two NiCd battery packs for it are dead though... Can't hold a charge really anymore. One shows a red light, instead of the amber "charging" or green "charged" light. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Shameless Plug!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, Bruce Lane wrote: > Ok, I admit it's a shameless ad. I'm sending it here because I know some of you are into the older HP calculators. > > I've put the magnetic card reader (Can it write as well?) for an HP-41C up on Ebay. Link here if you're interested. Yes, it can indeed write cards as well. I really like these little buggers. An especially neat feature is the program translation trick they can do whilst reading HP67/HP97 program cards. :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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FA: George Philbrick tube type Op-Amp for analog "computors".

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

See <http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1329047917>.

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Need source for high current HP type (with dimple) 14 or 16AWG 110vac power cord

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 27, Gary Hildebrand wrote: > Wonder what the dimple is for? should be able to use a standard IEC > connector cord with heay gauge wire. Can't believe that thing is that > big of a juice hog. Electric heaters draw about that much power. There are three "standard" IEC power connectors...there's the one we're all used to, the one with the dimple (higher current) and a larger square one (still higher current). -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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'70s microcomputer video connectors (was Re: Bell & Howell Apple II update II)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> wrote: > I skipped over this thread because I saw Richard's name all over it, but > had I know this is what the argument was about, I could have pointed to > maybe 3 or 4 S-100 machines circa the late 1970's in my collection that > use BNC for video. Yeah. If only folks would keep the subject line in sync with what they're arguing about, scorefiles would work a whole lot better. I'm certain I've seen Processor Technology SOLs with SO-259 connectors. I think I've seen at least one with a BNC connector (and recall being surprised to find that it wasn't an adapter), but even if I have I'm not sure what this proves, SOLs and other '70s micros being purchasable as kits, and I'm sure at least some of the pre-assembled ones were owned by people of soldering skill who would change the connector if it suited them to do so. -Frank McConnell

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a VAX 11/780 in my garage ...

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi I am happy to announce my new baby: thanks to Jon Auringer of Astronautics and Merle Pierce of RICM, I have now a VAX 11/780 in my garage. Nice cabinet, with UNIBUS extension and a TE16 drive (looks nice but will I ever sacrifice a 25A circuit just for it?). Inside the VAX are KA780, UBA, MS780 (8 MB) and 2 MBAs. In the UNIBUS cabinet are two DZ-11, an INTERLAN BD-NI 1010, an M8716 (general purpose parallel), and a "CBV inc" (?) "MODEL-215 DMA Option" (two 4-wide boards with additional cable between them, to a 3-row D connector that looks a bit like my KLESI connector ... any idea what that might be?). More UNIBUS stuff: Datasystems LP 11/32 (parallel printer) a few grants (I need to learn UNIBUSology to understand how this can work.) I have spare DZ-11, just in case someone is in need. The last board is a 919 UNIBUS connector with long cable connecting into another drawer. That one is a backplane of unknown nature. It has one card to play the UNIBUS adapter, then a whole bunch of MEGATEK cards all together making up a frame-buffer and digitizer assembly that was used for a SCICARDS circuit layout system. Any shred of information about this would be appreciated. I don't think its UNIBUS or QBUS (no grants between the two clusters of cards.) Now, since I want to use this VAX to upgrade to an 11/785, I still need a KA785 CPU backplane. The worst beaten-up machine that you see in your neighbor's dumpster will do for screwing those pieces off. Unfortunately they are all too often forgotten. But I will first go with the 11/780 setup to gain the feeling for this class of machine. I have some documentation and probably a full set of diagnostics floppies. If anyone needs, I'll be happy to help out ... of course I first need to get the machine going to read the floppies. I am looking for info on the CI installation. I have the CI boards but no clue about cab-kit stuff. Was hoping to use parts of the CIBCA cab kit stuff to build one. I am also looking for a source of FP780 boards, mine had no floating poing option installed. I have the additional PSU, but no cabling for the PSU to the backplane and of course no FP780 cards. (I have FP785 cards, but they don't mix.) Finally I'm contemplating to build a dual processor machine if I can gather the parts for it. All I need is a CPU extension cabinet, a second KA780 or 785 CPU set and bits and pieces from other VAX 11/78x backplanes (SBI cabling, mounting stuff etc.) Apparently the Purdue guys have done that very successfully in 1981, and the only reason this wasn't an SMP setup appears to be that 4.1 BSD didn't do SMP. I would imagine that one could hack NetBSD to run a dual 11/78x. (That's not an 11/782 or /787, DEC did that differently.) So, if you have a spare extension cabinet, backplane, CPU boards, PSUs, card cage, card rails, cables, even the meanest nag, let me know. I am slowly switching from an ackquisition frenzie to maintenance mode. I seem to have most of what I can reasonably want and fit into my house. Now it's time to get it all going well. If I have things running by Summer, I'm thinking of throwing a VAX-Party. But it may take me until next year. I have given my 6000-520 and second SA600 and second HSC90 to Merle from RICM. I still have a TU81PLUS and a Dataproducts printer to give away. Probably also two terminals (VT 420 or so). regards, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] ! ! ! On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote: ! ! > Doc --- ! > Well, if I have my way, my Gateway Handbook will be a ! > smaller Unix box... 10" x 6" x 1.5" ;-) ! > And it just squeaks by 10 years old too ( I think, maybe 9...) ! ! Funny you should mention that. I'm supposed to pick up a Handbook ! this weekend, to see about installing Linux without removing ! the drive.... I wonder, what kind/size drive is in there? Can it be upgraded? ! I'd *really* like to have a Handbook of my own. Classic or not, ! they're Way Too Cool (tm). Hopefully, by the time I'm done ! with John's, I'll be affluent again. It is a Neat Thing, isn' tit? Let me know if I can be of help. I have the null modem cable, floppy drive, 2 power supplies... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! -----Original Message----- ! From: Gareth Knight [mailto:gknight@emugaming.com] ! ! Simon wrote: ! > Please say me, how it works! I want to convert my VHS into ! > mpg-Files, but it ! > doesn't work, only the Convertion of mpg to VHS works. ! ! For low-end conversion from VHS to MPG you can use a cheap TV ! card, such as ! those made by Pinaccle or Hauppage. This will allow you to ! view the analog ! signal of your video and record it as an AVI or MPG. I recommend ! http://www.tv-cards.com/ for more information ! -- ! Gareth Knight You know, I should pick up one of those, so I can have a display for my C128 (and Atari800) on my Win98 box. Finally put it to something useful... Seriously, is anyone else doing that? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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VHS to mpg, how does it work????

by csmith＠amdocs.com

-----Original Message----- From: Darthsimon(a)aol.com [mailto:Darthsimon@aol.com] > VHS to mpg, how does it work???? By converting the analog signal of the VHS recorder to a digital interleaved audio/video signal, and applying one of the MPEG compression algorithms. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!]

by PasserM＠umkc.edu

I've done it with an Atari 2600. Works great (this was with a Gateway OEM Bt848 card.) --Michael -----Original Message----- From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:41 PM To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' Subject: TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!] ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Gareth Knight [mailto:gknight@emugaming.com] ! ! Simon wrote: ! > Please say me, how it works! I want to convert my VHS into ! > mpg-Files, but it ! > doesn't work, only the Convertion of mpg to VHS works. ! ! For low-end conversion from VHS to MPG you can use a cheap TV ! card, such as ! those made by Pinaccle or Hauppage. This will allow you to ! view the analog ! signal of your video and record it as an AVI or MPG. I recommend ! http://www.tv-cards.com/ for more information ! -- ! Gareth Knight You know, I should pick up one of those, so I can have a display for my C128 (and Atari800) on my Win98 box. Finally put it to something useful... Seriously, is anyone else doing that? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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hey"!

by Darthsimon＠aol.com

Please say me, how it works! I want to convert my VHS into mpg-Files, but it doesn't work, only the Convertion of mpg to VHS works. Thank you for your answer, Roman (please not so hard english because I'm from germany....)

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VHS to mpg, how does it work????

by Darthsimon＠aol.com

VHS to mpg, how does it work????

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Not-so-OT point of philosophy

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Cameron Kaiser [mailto:spectre@stockholm.ptloma.edu] > running WinCE, connected via Citrix to a Win2K Advanced > Server host. There > are only a few "real" PCs there -- in fact, I think the Macs > might outnumber > them. > Before all of you cry off-topic, doesn't it seem odd to > anyone we're now > full circle and back to low-power terminals connected to a > "mainframe," now Since when is a "Win2k Advanced Server host" a mainframe? :) That aside, though, no, it doesn't seem odd at all. It's certainly The Right Thing To Do, WRT administrative overhead, and maintenance/repair cost. Strange, possibly that corporate america is starting to do the right thing. That's never happened before, to my knowledge. > Compared to the WinTerms, my old Wyse terminal looks so nice. Especially when you consider that it won't run windows. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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a VAX 11/780 in my garage ...

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Gunther Schadow [mailto:gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org] > I am happy to announce my new baby: thanks to Jon Auringer of > Astronautics and Merle Pierce of RICM, I have now a VAX 11/780 > in my garage. Nice cabinet, with UNIBUS extension and a TE16 > drive (looks nice but will I ever sacrifice a 25A circuit just > for it?). Congratulations. Remember to put the stabilizers down before you open the doors ;) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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IRIS Power Series power supply questions

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net] > White isn't a standard ground wire color. Maybe someone > changed something > in your machine at some point? Green is a standard ground > wire color in > the US, while Green with a yellow stripe meets international > standards. > I've seen blue/brown/white used for 240V ungrounded > twist-lock connectors > before, but I'm certain these machines require 120V at 20A. Again, that's just from memory, and I could be way off... > I'm going to attempt to uncover one of my machines today and snap some > pics for you. Great. Thanks. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] > Well, if I have my way, my Gateway Handbook will be a > smaller Unix > box... 10" x 6" x 1.5" ;-) > And it just squeaks by 10 years old too ( I think, maybe 9...) I have been thinking about putting Minix on my Poqet PC, which would probably take the record. ;) I need a 2M SRAM card or two, though. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ethan Dicks [mailto:erd_6502@yahoo.com] > I know it's not what you want to hear, but they really were > disposable. > Expensive, but disposable. I think people might have swapped switches > if they were physically broken (keystems snapping off or the leaves in > the switches getting bent from vigorous keytop insertion), > but I do not > have a single memory of anyone attempting electronic repair > 20 years ago. Not what I was hoping to hear, you're right, but it's what I was expecting. Thanks again. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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a VAX 11/780 in my garage ...

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>way cool!! 780, wow thats a cool piece of hardware! Indeed! >i have the installation manuals for the CI780. I can mail them to you. >Maybe when youre done if you send them on to whoever has been scanning >stuff in and putting it online, that would be cool.. There's a bunch of manuals up already at: http://208.190.133.201/decimages/moremanuals.htm I've already let them have a few more ... the install manual (or at least one version of it is in on its way there now IIRC). I'll dig out the numbers for 780 stuff in that pending batch - save you scanning something that's already been done! Antonio arcarlini(a)iee.org

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Passwords was: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Lawrence Walker [mailto:lgwalker@mts.net] > While passwords may be necessary in a business environment, > they are a real pain to home-based single users or following owners. They provide a little extra privacy from prying eyes. Of course, there is no password that can't be circumvented somehow, given access to the console, or, in a worst case, the system itself. > I mean, really, I'm in the middle of nowhere in northern Manitoba, > in a house where I live alone with a protective dog, and only hook up > to my ISP when I want to access it. Do I need this ? But even my You could turn it off. :) > NEXT demands a password and I had to do an extensive search to find > out how to re-do the original one. But of course the holy grail of > computer makers is that BIG contract. Any unix I've ever met will let you blank the password out... it will still ask for it, but you can just hit return. > complicate my life. I thought that that's one of the things > that computers > were for. To uncomplicate tasks and processes. On my computers Certainly they make higher math and weather modeling much easier. ;) > I DON"T NEED NO STEENKING PASSWORDS. > Windblows is the least of the transgressors. The UNIX type > are the worst > since they grew up in a security-conscious business environment. Lots of unixes even have an "auto-login" feature. > Right now after going thru a difficult Linux Red-Hat install > I can't find the > slip I wrote the password it insists upon, and must do a > fresh install. Actually you may be able to boot in single user mode without a password. Try it. > Fuck it, I'll reformat and look at another OS. > I believe that OS's or programs that don't provide > non-password access > should be boycotted. Well, again, just because it asks for a password, doesn't mean you've got to use one... > Do these guys really think that passwords can protect their data if > they don't have physical access protection ? We all know that even > supposedly deleted files can be ressurected. This is SUIT mentality > and they live in an imaginary world that they proclaim is the BOTTOM > LINE, realistic view of things. As MS has learned to it's > chagrin every > man-made "security" feature can be end-run by some bright young > hacker. Um, well, certainly any MS security feature can be circumvented by a blindfolded, dyslexic baboon. :) You are also right that there is a way around any security control, given physical access to the system. That really isn't the point of software security, though. I do realize that you are likely to be ranting due to frustration, but if nothing else, try blanking out some of your passwords and save yourself some of that trouble. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Old 9-track tape data

by pb＠Colorado.EDU

Thanks--I have heard from 3 people in the general vicinity. The one who replied first will also probably get my old Rainbow, just "thrown in." I'm delighted with how "common" 9-track drives (and, presumably, ones connected to UNIX machine) seem to be. I haven't seen one in years, although I haven't hung out in computer rooms the way I used to, either.... --pb

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com [mailto:pete@dunnington.u-net.com] > "4", etc. If > only the keyboard test fails, the terminal should go online > in receive-only > mode (ie it's useful as a display). It does that... :) Would like to type things, though. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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