From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
>The only HP things from which I've ever extracted useful work are my
plotters
>and printers. The HP CAE system we had when I was in the aerospace
industry was
Their printers are ok but, I have to go to Agilent for the test gear they
were known for.
>HP had scavenged from all over the country. I've never seen a
DEC/Compaq thing
>I liked. I must have observed these companies at the wrong stages in
their
>respective evolutions.
Yep!.
Allison
Hi All,
I have a Zenith H-89 based computer control system which needs few ICs.
Any body know place to buy these?
D765AC
C8208 - CPU?
C8087-1
WD2123-PL - I guess western digital disk controller.
Thanks for any info.
anil
> From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
> You might well be mad as well, I can't comment (although I do believe
> that many people on classiccmp are at least mildly eccentric :-))
I agree. The diversity of the posters to this list is its best quality,
IMHO ;>)
> I can't really recomend damaging old hardware...
I have qualms about this as well.
> Really mad idea.... Take a classic computer, add a 31.25kbpx current loop
> serial interface, link it up to all sorts of old hardware (printers, disk
> drives, tape drives, etc), and have a device that takes Midi commands and
> gets that old hardware to make interesting sounds...
Brilliant idea, Tony. I have a classic ISA MIDI board, drivers and
software. Together they can control 64 MIDI channels. I wonder if I could
control some devices directly with MIDI data?
Thanks again for the great suggestions and help.
Glen
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On September 4, Eric Dittman wrote:
> > They're are three power connectors in the "standard" family as defined
> > by IEC...a low-, medium-, and high-current version. The low-current
> > version is the one we're all used to, 10A. The one on some MicroVAX
> > chassis is the 15A version. The third is a larger one (20A, I think
> > but I'm not sure) that has three flat pins in a triangular arrangement
> > but in two parallel planes, with a plain rectangular body. Tey're
> > found on some larger Cisco routers (7513 for one) and on SGI
> > Challenge-L systems for example.
>
> Dave, do you happen to have the IEC spec number?
Nope..
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Laurel, MD
> My SYS$WELCOME doesn't mention any of them. However, I got a kick out of
> how the banner on the GUI Login still says "|d|i|g|i|t|a|l|" under V7.2-1H1,
> though with 'xdm' from TCPIP 5.1 on other systems you never see it, it's
> freaky how it looks like a plain UNIX xdm.
With V7.3 it now says "Compaq".
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
> > I remember a couple of months ago there was discussion on
> > the proper cable for a BA440 power supply (normal North
> > American three prong power cord but with a notch where it
> > plugs in to the power supply). Was there a consensus on
> > the designation (and any place in the US that sell them)?
>
> Here is a copy of a message I sent on 7/22/2001 about this:
>
> They're are three power connectors in the "standard" family as defined
> by IEC...a low-, medium-, and high-current version. The low-current
> version is the one we're all used to, 10A. The one on some MicroVAX
> chassis is the 15A version. The third is a larger one (20A, I think
> but I'm not sure) that has three flat pins in a triangular arrangement
> but in two parallel planes, with a plain rectangular body. Tey're
> found on some larger Cisco routers (7513 for one) and on SGI
> Challenge-L systems for example.
Dave, do you happen to have the IEC spec number?
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
Well I for one found it amusing that HP was trying to get away from the "PC" moniker calling them "access devices for the Internet" (which can also be palmtops etc). You know a really bright chap in corporate would say:
"Well we make lots of different
kinds of equipment, and we gave
all the analog stuff away to the
Agilent so we just have the
digital stuff. I know, we'll
call the combined company the
digital equipment company, gee
that has a nice ring to it."
Of course Microsoft loses big because their two biggest licensees for Wince are consolidating into one licensee.
--Chuck
> So if the power cable has the HP logo then you are way ahead of the
> rest of us...
I think it's unmarked.
> Of course, all my stuff still says "|d|i|g|i|t|a|l|", except for
> the distribution CDROMs. My SYS$WELCOME says:
>
> Compaq may have bought Digital, but I'll
> always call it DEC.
>
> I'll have to update that now.
> --
> Eric Dittman
My SYS$WELCOME doesn't mention any of them. However, I got a kick out of
how the banner on the GUI Login still says "|d|i|g|i|t|a|l|" under V7.2-1H1,
though with 'xdm' from TCPIP 5.1 on other systems you never see it, it's
freaky how it looks like a plain UNIX xdm.
As for saying Compaq, my 7.2 books, and my latest CD's are all that say it.
I'm just wondering what this will do to the price of used DS10's!
Zane
On September 4, Eric Dittman wrote:
> I remember a couple of months ago there was discussion on
> the proper cable for a BA440 power supply (normal North
> American three prong power cord but with a notch where it
> plugs in to the power supply). Was there a consensus on
> the designation (and any place in the US that sell them)?
Here is a copy of a message I sent on 7/22/2001 about this:
They're are three power connectors in the "standard" family as defined
by IEC...a low-, medium-, and high-current version. The low-current
version is the one we're all used to, 10A. The one on some MicroVAX
chassis is the 15A version. The third is a larger one (20A, I think
but I'm not sure) that has three flat pins in a triangular arrangement
but in two parallel planes, with a plain rectangular body. Tey're
found on some larger Cisco routers (7513 for one) and on SGI
Challenge-L systems for example.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Laurel, MD
der Mouse ---
I'm passing this message onto the ClassicCmp.org mailing list also,
since there has been some mention of SS1 MAC addresses here too. Maybe we
(the ClassicCmp list) can provide you with more data, hopefully enough to
crack the code finally!
BTW, I also have a SparcStation 1 mainboard too, I'll just have to
stick that in one of the cases to power it up. Hopefully it still has it's
MAC address!
der Mouse's original NetBSD/Sparc post about this is at the end...
Don't forget to include him in the replies...
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! -----Original Message-----
! From: der Mouse [mailto:mouse@Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA]
!
! > I'll be inspecting mine tomorrow, to add info to your sample base...
! > Anithing else I should look for and report, besides the barcode
! > numbers and descriptions?
!
! The four pieces of info I'm interested in are
!
! 1) four-character code
! 2) barcode
! 3) MAC address
! 4) hostid
!
! Each subset of more than one of those is of interest; the
! more complete
! a subset, the more interesting. Obviously, I'm particularly
! interested
! in filling in the gaps in the barcode table and in anything that can
! shed light on the contents-versus-label mapping, but anything is
! useful; even just a 4-char-code <-> barcode sample can serve as
! confirmation of what I've got.
! -----Original Message-----
! From: der Mouse [mailto:mouse@Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA]
!
I've got eight old 48T02 NVRAM chips whose batteries ahve run down.
I'd like to reconstruct the MAC address and hostid values corresponding
to them; all but one of them still has its barcode sticker (and I don't
expect to get anything useful for the one that's lost its sticker :-).
Mark Henderson's NVRAM FAQ says that Sun can reconstruct this given the
barcode (or, possibly, the four-character code also prinetd on the
sticker), but does not say how. Is that algorithm known, or partially
known? If not, I'll volunteer to collect data points to try to work it
out, if people with still-good NVRAMs will send their barcode and/or
four-character codes to me with the Ethernet address and hostid that
correspond. (I've got only three live samples in my own collection,
not really enough to tell much from.) I'll also be looking at mine to
see if there is an obvious correspondence between barcodes and
four-character codes.
The newer sort, the 48T08 sort, don't need this, since the last three
octets of the MAC address are identical to the low three bytes of the
hostid, and are printed under the barcode. It's just the old sort I'm
interested in here.
Any information appreciated.