test-drb September 2001

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by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > Like I said, this is a reckoning. > > > It is only a reckoning in the eyes of a select few -- such > as those firing guns in the air in celebration of the many > dead. There is no way that the taking of thousands of > "innocent" lives balances out anything. Just as nothing > will be resolved when we inevitably do the same in > retaliation. I think the point he was trying to make regarding reckoning is that America's foreign policy doesn't take into account (or does a poor job of doing so) the reactions of various peoples who think of themselves as disaffected. So, our nation throws it weight around long enough, and eventually, push comes to shove. I had expected something like this for a long time; the recent economic good-times had lulled me into a false sense of security (things are great all over, no?)... It's not about whether they are justfied (in reality) or not, but how they feel about their situation. They feel put-upon, and they hold us partly (w/r/t Palestinians) or totally (Iraq) to blame. Should we therefore have a foreign policy that is doomed to forever "walk on eggshells"? No; but status quo clearly isn't working. -dq

22 years, 10 months

OT- Re: World Trade Crash and a bit about computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Keep in mind, Arthur, that you can't have it both ways. You've got to choose > between security and freedom. I think what Sellam is driving at is that every > externally imposed effort to ensure your security impairs someone's freedoms. > Perhaps we don't all see it that way, but it could be argued. Nonetheless, I > don't feel that letting someone look in my carry-on luggage to make sure I don't > have guns, knives, bombs, etc. is a reasonable infringement, partiticularly > since I've effectively agreed to allow this invasion of my privacy as part of > the contract associated with air travel. This will certainly lead to fewer men packing women's underwear in their suitcases, not to mention various flesh-tone plastic toys... Should anyone else care to enumerate the "legal things I'd hate to get caught with in my suitcase", please reply privately... -dq

22 years, 10 months

OT: World Trade crash updates...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

All my prayers go out to all the victims... Some updates & summary from various sources... Two planes have flown into both towers of the World Trade Center, one plane (an American Airlines 767) is known to have been hijacked from an airport in Boston. The towers have been evacuated. Uh oh, some are still in the towers, two people just jumped. Part of the World Trade tower has collapsed All traffic in and out of NY has been stopped, no one in, no one out. All airports in US have been shut down. No flights in, no flights out. 1-800 phone calls apparently not working... A commercial airplane has flown into the Pentagon, Pentagon has been evacuated too. UNCONFIRMED reports of several more (possibly hi-jacked) planes still in the air. All other planes have been ordered to land. A fire has started in front of the White House (they are calling it the Mall of the White House) and the White House has been evacuated too. Capitol, treasury, White House, and State Department have been evacuated. Boston and many other major cities are evacuating all potential taget sites/buildings also... As the White House was being evacuated, a threat came in, a credible threat, and the evacuation process went even fast, at first they were evacuating in an orderly fashion. Supposedly the president was supposed to be heading back from Florida. I'm sure that's going to be detoured somewhere else. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

22 years, 10 months

Asunto: Re: World Trade crash...

by David.Neal＠ubsw.com

$20 worth of flight sim should be enough for the job. -----Original Message----- From: jss Sent: 12 September 2001 14:58 To: classiccmp Cc: jss Subject: Re: Asunto: Re: World Trade crash... On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Chuck McManis wrote: > Don, you forget [...] training I bet this was the biggest cost; you just don't learn how to fly a big commercial jet overnight. -- Jeffrey S. Sharp jss(a)subatomix.com Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments.

22 years, 10 months

World Trade crash...

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/11/2001 11:37:26 AM Central Daylight Time, fernande(a)internet1.net writes: > Richard Erlacher wrote: > > The networks are issuing conflicting reports about that, but it's clear it > > wasn't a helipad on a nearby building. The Pentagon is apparently > severely > > damaged and there's been considerable loss of life. Of course that's > nothing as > > compared with the WTC disaster, now that both towers have collapsed. > > Doesn't the pentagon hold many many people as well? > > > The heart of Washington D.C. OTOH is apparently being (relatively) quitely > > evacuated. I don't know how the key government agencies can function if > they're > > not going to work, however. They've shut down the CIA, the NSA, and other > > security-related agencies. You (Jeff) can probably provide more detail, > since > > you're there. > > I'm sure the core parts of the agencies are working very hard right > now. They'll be in the field and in other lesser known offices. If > another plane hit the main offices of our security agencies, with our > people inside, then we would be in a lot more trouble. It's better to > have them in other places. > > > > > I note that Dubya is on the tube. I wonder where they set him down. He > was in > > the air when this happened. Likewise, Colin Powell apparently turned > around > > from his trip to Columbia, or wherever he was going. > > I haven't seen him yet. I did just see Arafat. He looked shocked, > althoughm he might be a good actor too? Don't know, just speculating. > > Chad Fernandez > Michigan, USA > my brother says AF1 came in andrews AFB with fighter escort and it's locked up there better than alcratraz. Im sure there's plenty going on in DC as theres lots of information that doesnt get fed to the general populace.

22 years, 10 months

World Trade crash...

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

I work in midtown Manhattan...both buildings have collapsed. There is nothing but blue sky where the Twin Towers once stood. ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:23 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org (E-mail) Subject: OT: World Trade crash... Importance: High I take it you all heard about the two 737s (?) hitting the world trade buildings... one was possibly a hijacked airliner... each hit a seperate tower, I believe... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

22 years, 10 months

Tandy 1400 LT

by pjschilling＠gcstech.net

Mike, There were a few before the 1400. The 100/102/200 for sure. There are many 100's and 102's still in use. I know a few journalists locally using them. Phil -----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Mike Ford Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:13 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Tandy 1400 LT I bought a Tandy 1400 portable today. Not bad shape, a bit of plastic damage in a couple places on the case, but it lights up and asks for a floppy and the battery doesn't even appear totally totally dead (only mostly dead). Is this the first Tandy laptop? Anybody interested before eBay? NEC 8088 4.77/7.00 MHz CPU (V-20) LCD Backlit CGA Display Panel Dual 3.5" 720k Disk Drives 640k RAM Serial/Parallel/CGA/TV Connectors

22 years, 10 months

A great loss, on topic...

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 11, 21:42, ajp166 wrote: > Today Tim Olmstead passed away from a battle with cancer. > A great loss. I'm very sorry to hear that. He was a nice guy and made a significant contribution to our hobby. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 10 months

Some new stuff. What is it?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 10, 14:30, John Rollins wrote: > >Those would be DEC MMJ ports... > > What's an MMJ? It stands for Modified Modular Jack. DEC took a standard RJ12 plug and moved the position of the latch off to one side. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 10 months

OT: halfmast.jpg (non-political)

by lance＠costanzo.net

Like most of you, I sat around most of Tuesday watching/listening to the news, but mostly being unable to concentrate on work. I needed to do something, so I created a small graphic (I'm definitely not a graphic designer, but I got the proportions reasonably correct) of a US flag at half mast and will be using it on my web sites as a remembrance of today's tragedy. If you'd like to do the same: http://www.webhighrise.com/halfmast.jpg

22 years, 10 months

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test-drb September 2001