I just received about 80 HP Cassette tapes today, and have no idea what
these things might be used on or for. They appear to be about DC-100
size and have names such as "64850-10005 Z8 asm/lnk", "64815-10002 68000
Pascal Compiler", "64816-10005 Z8001/2 Pascal Compiler", "Z80 Emul/Asm",
etc. Anyone have any idea of what machine these things might be used on?
> > > > The VAXstation 4000/90 is a 42 VUP system and the VAX 4000/400 is a
> > > > 16 VUP system, so you aren't doing too bad. I seem to recall the
> > > > VAX 4000/700A is about 40 VUPs and the /705A is about 45-50 VUPs.
> > >
> > > The VAX CPU Summary lists these numbers:
> > >
> > > VS4000/90 32.8 VUPS
> > > 4000/700a 40 VUPS
> > > 4000/705a 45 VUPS
> >
> > The numbers I have are from DSN, and the 42 VUP rating for the 4000/90 feels
> > right to me.
>
> The "VAX CPU Summary" numbers above are their SPECint92 numbers, NOT their
> VUP rating. I'm glad to finally see VUP ratings for these systems. Eric, I
> don't suppose you've also got any kind of full list from DSN? If not do you
> happen to have info on the VS4000/90A and /96?
I have the full list available from DSN, but it isn't complete. I can't post
it here, though, due to it being copyrighted, but I can post VUPs for requested
systems from the list, if you ask.
The numbers above are the VUPs. The DSN listing for the /90 and /90A are off
by 10. I got ambitious and ran some more tests. The /90 is 32-33 and the
/90A is 38-39. The VAX 7730 systems at work are 150 VUPs.
What's interesting when reviewing the list is to see how the bus architecture
impacts the VUPs on identical CPUs. For instance the 7610 is 35 VUPs but the
6610 is only 32 VUPs.
--
Eric Dittman
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Hello Bill,
The URL is ...
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1277142640
Sincerely,
Bennett
Bill Bradford wrote:
>
> Please ! Let me know the auction number as soon as it goes up.
>
> Bill
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 06:19:14PM -0400, Info from LSI wrote:
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > I don't mind putting my VAXstation 4000/60's, "box
> > only", up on eBay, starting at $1.00, under their
> > "Auction for America" program where eBay donates the
> > selling price to the NYC WTC Disaster Fund. 8 Mb on the
> > board. Both checked to power up and generate video output.
> > You scrub the magic marker markings off the front which
> > is easy to do with isopropol alcohol and comet. However,
> > regardless of how eBay wants to run that program, packaging
> > materials ( low cost because I get them wholesale ) and
> > shipping costs ( low cost because I ship FEDEX Ground at
> > the FEDEX Center ) would have to be covered, else buyer
> > picks up. But with "buyer picks up" terms, it should sell
> > dirt cheap.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Bennett
> >
> >
> > > Speaking of which, anybody know where I can get a decent desktop
> > > VAX to play with again? VLC or better...
> >
> > > Bill
>
> --
> Bill Bradford
> mrbill(a)mrbill.net
> Austin, TX
Hi, a TU81+ (9-track tape drive, the latest and best that
DEC came up with) is up on ebay with only 17 hours to go. It
is in St. Louis. So, Buckaroo may want to get it. I think someone
should drop in a bid on it just so it is not lost in the
dumpster. I have already two of those outstanding (still need
to actually go and get them.) The TU81+ works nice with a
VAX 6000 or a UNIBUS vax. Not sure the smaller 4000s have
an interface, they probably do. The interface is the KLESI
on the BI bus (it's actually a UNIBUS adapter with the
TU device driver right on the same card and no way to
connect more UNIBUS.)
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1275105774
-Gunther
--
Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org
Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care
Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine
tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org
Hi Bill,
I don't mind putting my VAXstation 4000/60's, "box
only", up on eBay, starting at $1.00, under their
"Auction for America" program where eBay donates the
selling price to the NYC WTC Disaster Fund. 8 Mb on the
board. Both checked to power up and generate video output.
You scrub the magic marker markings off the front which
is easy to do with isopropol alcohol and comet. However,
regardless of how eBay wants to run that program, packaging
materials ( low cost because I get them wholesale ) and
shipping costs ( low cost because I ship FEDEX Ground at
the FEDEX Center ) would have to be covered, else buyer
picks up. But with "buyer picks up" terms, it should sell
dirt cheap.
Sincerely,
Bennett
> Speaking of which, anybody know where I can get a decent desktop
> VAX to play with again? VLC or better...
> Bill
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 at 13:40:10 "r. 'bear' stricklin" <red(a)bears.org> wrote:
> I do, in fact, have several releases of DG/UX on both QIC tape and CD-ROM.
> I'd be interested in trading a copy of one for a dump of the NVRAMs. I can
> tell you how to get the dump, too.
I'm just catching up on my Classic Computer reading...
I've got four DG AV 4300's sitting in the next room. Each of them has a QIC
tape drive. I got them without documentation and I haven't had time yet to
even boot them up.
If someone has instructions on how to break into root I'd be happy to try it
out, and/or if there's a way to read the NVRAM without booting the OS I'll
be happy to try that, too.
BTW, I'd love to trade the 4300's for classic HP gear...
Cheers,
Dan
www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html
Hello Salo,
> btw. i have another problem. i have Sony GDM-1601/8 monitor
> (shipped by Data General with own logo) connected to my AV 530
> with graphics card by 3 BNC RGB cable made from standard 50ohm
> coaxial cables (i know there should be 75ohm ones, but i just
> wanted to try it). i am not sure if 3 cables are enough because
> that monitor has 5 BNC connectors (2 additional ones for horizontal
> and vertical sync). i tried to find any docs but without success
> (no info about 1601/8, just 1601 and 1601/6). problem is that
> picture on monitor looks like with higher frequency than monitor
> can handle or without some sync, lines are shifted to each other
> and it is shaking a bit. i hoped that sync on green was enogh but
> now i am not sure. graphics card i have is some data general 8
> B/P GRAPHICS CARD shipped with that AV 530 (monitor was probably
> used with another machine).
> any help will be appreciated.. thanks
If you don't mind experimenting, under the hood, and can do so
without electrocuting yourself, I believe on the left side of
the monitor you will find some adjustments, some of which might
be labeled, horizontal frequency, horizontal phase, horizontal
size, horizontal center, etc. You might try tweaking some of
those and seeing if that stabilizes the image.
Or you might try a 5 BNC variety Sony multisync, just hooking
up R, G, and B.
or if you have a multisync with a HD15M pigtail, I have hooked
these up by coming out of computers with BNC video out by
connecting to a BNC to HD15 cable hooked up so that the BNC's
are to the computer, then used a HD15F-HD15F gender changer to
join the BNC to HD15 cable to the monitor's HD15M pigtail.
Just some experimental options to possibly try.
Sincerely,
Bennett
> > > > > Actually that rack contains two VAX 4000/700As.
> > > > Ahhhh! I get jealous reading that. The 4k VAXen are quite nice and the
> > > > 700A has around 33VUPs. My best VAXen are a 4k400 and a VS4k90.
> > >
> > > The VAXstation 4000/90 is a 42 VUP system and the VAX 4000/400 is a
> > > 16 VUP system, so you aren't doing too bad. I seem to recall the
> > > VAX 4000/700A is about 40 VUPs and the /705A is about 45-50 VUPs.
> >
> > The VAX CPU Summary lists these numbers:
> >
> > VS4000/90 32.8 VUPS
> > 4000/700a 40 VUPS
> > 4000/705a 45 VUPS
>
> The numbers I have are from DSN, and the 42 VUP rating for the 4000/90 feels
> right to me.
Maybe the /90 is 32 VUPs and the /90A is 38.8, which would make sense if the
list on DSN is off for both system. What leads me to believe the DSN listing
is in error now is I just ran a test program on a /90, 90A, /400, and /500,
and the numbers for the /90 and /90A are way off from what I'd expect if the
ratings from DSN are correct. I'm going to run some tests this weekend to
try to get better numbers.
I wish the original DEC test program was available.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
Check out the DEC Ethusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/
Hi,
does anyone know where Brian Chase is? He dropped from my
radar screen about two months (or more?) ago. He used to
live in Bloomington, IN, not far from me, and we had
hauled the VAX 6420s from my workplace in spring this
year. He wanted to check out some job opportunity in
California, and then he was never seen again. Does anyone
have more recent information? His Web site still exists,
without any news however.
thanks,
-Gunther
--
Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org
Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care
Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine
tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org
Doug Coward <mranalog(a)home.com> wrote:
> PROT & UNPROT pins 20 & 70 - The IEEE 696 standard
> says that these pins will be at ground. Some
> motherboards ground these lines. But grounding
> these pins on the IMSAI front panel will disable
> the front panel. To fix this, cut the traces,
> on the front panel, right at edge connector
> pin 20 and 70.
I'm thinking that some CPU boards expect the front panel to ground one
of these signals when the panel is putting something on the data bus
via the panel connector (and the CPU board should therefore use the
data bus on the panel connector instead of the one on the
motherboard). Maybe I am confusing this with some other signal?
I ran into this in 1989 with a CCS Z80 board and no-name chassis
with apparent 696 motherboard. Took me a while to figure out why
it wasn't coming up.
-Frank McConnell
