On August 20, Chad Fernandez wrote:
> George Bush doesn't have anything to do with the economy being down.
> The Economy started downwards before he was even in office. He didn't
> ruin VCF for you, either. The president doesn't magically change the
> economy over night.
But perhaps the economy can change the presidency. If someone else
becomes rich enough, they can buy the presidency from Bush. I suppose
he'd probably be happy if he were to sell it for more than he bought
it for.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
Laurel, MD
Does anyone know the web site for @Biz, I tried yahoo and google with no
luck ? The Wizard sent out the email earlier talking about the article
on collecting old computers.
I've had some private email from an enthusiastin Germany who has an Econet
board for an Acorn Atom, but has no firmware ROM for it. Does anyone have
a ROM or an image that could be burned?
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Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Sorry to use the bandwidth folks....
I've been trying to contact either Al Kossow or Eric Smith for many months now, no responses to email. Anyone know if they are still around or maybe just have a different email address?
Thanks!
Jay West
Hi.
I picked up a VAXstation 4000/90 for a song at a recyclers the other day,
but it's missing some chassis parts.
Does anybody have a junked VAXstation 4000 that still has its internal
disk mounting hardware and SCSI cable intact? Those are the parts I need.
Or perhaps even the little flap that goes over the diag LEDs in front.
Will pay money.
ok
r.
R. D. Davis said:
>Why not just start out with Modula-2? Of course, Forth, Perl, C, VAX
>Macro, etc. could all be learned by beginners if they had good
>instructors to teach them
I'm still in the process of rewriting a bunch of horrible Perl code
to run on my NeXT (and off-topic machines) to do a weekly batch text
processing job. I would postulate that Perl, if allowed to be used without
"use strict" and the -w switch, actually *could* forever ruin the mind of a
potential programmer. (Much more so than BASIC ever could. Is that the
number 9 or the character string "9"? Who knows? Who cares? Eek!)
Even with those safeguards, the regular expressions could do some
long-lasting damage.
I dunno if this counts as a useful suggestion, but Mathematica's
programming language can be used to write programs in any of the usual
styles (procedural, functional, list-oriented, object-oriented). I don't
know that I'd want to spring it on a beginner, though.
I agree that a good instructor is key, no matter what "syntactical
sugar" is chosen first.
- Mark
Please pardon the non-member (for now!) off-topic post, but...
I have a 19" equipment rack, it's about 2 1/2 - 3 feet tall, dark
grey, all steel. There is one guy who might take it (doubt it), otherwise
it's free to first person who can come to New Haven, CT to get it...
As always, reply off -list...
--- David A Woyciesjes
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Hi all,
(And Tony Duell :^)
Have a friends Decstation 5000 power supply with a violently blown fuse.
(8A/250V)
He is a developer of VMS Freeware (in fact the WASD web server) and has
asked me to help.
Culprit is 2 x ZNR 14K241U devices, which I believe are Metal Film
Varistors Surge Absorbers.
The numbering system seems to be obsolete as current ZNR Surge Absorbers
use a quite different system, or I've guessed wrong and they are
something else entirely, but I don't think so.
These two gadgets are wired in series with each other, then connected
across the output of the mains rectifier.
240vac in, so they are across around 300+ vdc.
I could just leave them out and the supply will run, but would much
rather replace them to keep the protection they offer.
Their appear to be no other faults and the history of the incident is
consistent with a switch on surge after an extended holiday (3 weeks)
following daily useage of the machine, so it's possible the reservoir
caps may be just a little leaky or the varistor was just getting tired.
Anyone make sense of the device id so I can figure out what rating to
replace them with.
Device looks rather like a round ceramic capacitor, but gloss black in
colour, marked with white lettering
A Logo consisting of a small square box in top left with a capital M
inside and ZNR in caps next to it
then under it is 14K241U (or the 1's could be ell or i, hard to say).
underneath at bottom left is an reversed italic capital R with a
reversed italic capital L joined to the back main bar of the R.
To the right of this is a small letter s raised above the baseline with
the number 20 after it.
Any help appreciated.
Cheers
Geoff in Oz
I now have a taker for this... (Wow, that was quick!)
And I signed up for the mailing list too :-)
--- David A Woyciesjes
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! -----Original Message-----
! From: David Woyciesjes
! Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:10 AM
! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
! Subject: OT: 3 foot steel 19" rack...
!
!
! Please pardon the non-member (for now!) off-topic post, but...
!
! I have a 19" equipment rack, it's about 2 1/2 - 3 feet
! tall, dark grey, all steel. There is one guy who might take
! it (doubt it), otherwise it's free to first person who can
! come to New Haven, CT to get it...
! As always, reply off -list...
!
! --- David A Woyciesjes
! --- C & IS Support Specialist
! --- Yale University Press
! --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
! --- (203) 432-0953
! --- ICQ # - 905818
!
> Granted, if you want to become an engineer, or in the very least a
> "professional", you have to evolve beyond trial and error. But as I said,
> you have to start at the bottom and work your way up. I would never start
> a student off in a rigorous, structured environment. What a perfect way
> to turn them off.
If it had ever been true that there existed a real programming labor
shortage, I'd agree, we'd want to mainstream people into the field,
not scare them away from it.
However, from a strictly economic point of view, I don't beleive I
benefit from the expansion of the programming labor pool. And I was
of this mind when I was a student consultant in college, and yes
indeed, I did everything I could to scare off or alienate anyone
>from pursuing programming as a career.
One such individual was a friend of my nephew, and once I caught him
digging my program listings out of the recycle bin, I was convinced
the field would be better off without him.
Today, he doesn't code, he's a consultant...
Reards,
-dq
