test-drb July 2001

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824 discussions

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

I've just been offered a KIM-1 by a friend, and I'd like to give him something for it. Does anyone have suggestions as to its value? It's a revision G board, with a date code of 1178 (well, I assume that's the date code) and has the Commodore and MOS logos in the top right, with a large "F" and a small "8" stamped in black ink under the "KIM-1" name. It has all black plastic chips (not any white ceramic like some early ones), and the RAM chips are NEC 2102's rather than MOS 6102's. It's been well used but was working last time anyone tried it. Don't yet know if there are any manuals -- though I've found copies on the 'net. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 10 months

HP2748A papertape reader : connector ?

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Want me to look up the board for the 2748B? I own both a 2748B and the manual for it, so I can see what the manual says is correct... Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

22 years, 10 months

Pro350

by dittman＠dittman.net

I am in touch with a guy that has a Pro350 for sale. He wants $100 for it. Is anyone interested? I don't think he wants to come down any. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net

22 years, 10 months

'Good' versions of VMS

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

So now that OpenVMS 7.3 for VAX is out I'm hoping that the Montagar folks will do an updated VMS Media disk. If anyone has any contacts with the group that does that I would really like to help out. I'm pretty sure that we could build a pretty painless and much better organized disk than the 7.2 disk is. But that isn't really the point of this message. The point was made on a previous note about a ConDist set that it had VMS 6.0 which wasn't a "good" version of VMS because it was fairly buggy. That made me wonder if we could come to a concensus on what "good" VMS releases were out there? I happen to like VMS 5.5-2H4 which was, I believe, the last release in the 5.x line and thus pretty darn stable. It runs on pretty much every VAX and uses the "Modern" license management facility that the Hobbyiest licenses conform to. There is also a lot of software that runs on "5.5 and above" so that is good too. Finally its the last release that calls itself VAX VMS (rather than OpenVMS) which gives it a wonderful classic like feel. Then there is VMS 6.x, of which I've got images for 6.1 and 6.2 (no 6.0 but I opted to pass on the ConDist as well). Is there a release after 6.2 that sits between it and the 7.x release? Given the shortness between 7.0 and 7.1 I'm going to guess that 7.0 had some serious issues and 7.2 which is running on the VLC cluster seems quite stable. (using a patched UCX). Thoughts? What was the best V4.x release? V3? Does anyone have VMS 1.x and if so what processors does it support? As I recall on the 780 at school it looked a _lot_ like RSX-11M+ :-) --Chuck

22 years, 10 months

OT Celebration

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >Greetings to our brethren in the 51st US state. > > > Wrong! Puerto Rico is going to be the 51st state. Canada will be the > 52nd. (We have to keep our priorities straight.) :-) Puerto Rico Estado? Uh Uh.... Puerto Rico Libre! (that was the consensus in San Juan... tho one guy said: "Puerto Rico Estado Libre", his way of saying "status quo, please". -dq

22 years, 10 months

Whats a reasonable collection?

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> Nope. Zorro I has 100 pins, just like Zorro II. The difference is that > the cards are nearly 12" x 12", not PC/ISA shaped. They didn't last long. > The only expansion box I ever saw that used them, lay flat on top of the > A1000, under the monitor, and provided two slots. I don't know if anyone > ever made any Zorro I cards other than FAST RAM. > The 86 pin connector is labeled Zorro on the RevA A500 schematics (the hand drawn ones) and a Zorro to Zorro II expansion circuit for up to 6 true ZII slots is there as well. There is no mention of any 12" x 12" form factor boards in any of the C= technical refs. I have for all the OCS/ECS machines up to A3000(T) Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service.

22 years, 10 months

Any Luck With Bull?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Hello, Hans... It's been a while since we chatted, and I was wondering if the health of your friend at Bull had improved such that you could once again considering discussing with him the liberation of the Multics source code (and who knows, maybe a bootstrap tape). It'll be a shame if we have to rebuild using the MIT archive, but if that's all we've got, well... Regards, -doug quebbeman

22 years, 10 months

who bought that 11/785 maintenance manual from ebay?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, did you notice a few weeks abo there was a VAX 11/785 technical maintenacne manual up on ebay. If you are the winning bidder or if you have that manual from elsewhere or if you have bookmarked that auction and can give me the item number so I can contact the winner, I'd appreciate it. Any other ideas where I could get copies of 11/785 tech docs? Thanks, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

22 years, 10 months

fun with Standalone Backup

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

So a bit of additional 'lore' which is probably obvious to a zillion VMS admins but was news to me. One can create a standalone backup tape that is both bootable into standalone backup, and has the system image on it. I did it as follows: 1) INIT the tape with label SYSTEM 2) @SYS$SYSTEM:STABACKIT Select MUA0 as the device Tell it _not_ to re-initialize. 3) Now boot this tape and at the prompt use BACKUP/IMAGE/VERIFY DUA0: MUA0:MYBACKUP.B/SAVE/LABEL=SYSTEM Now go away for a while :-) Once its done you can boot the tape and restore with BACKUP/IMAGE/VERIFY MUA0:MYBACKUP.B/SAVE/LABEL=SYSTEM DUA0: This saves me from having to change tapes in the process. On an unrelated note, I've got a Dataram MS650 board (MicroVAX III memory) and when it is installed it takes a _longish_ time to past the initialzation tests and standalone backup appears to hang when run. Has anyone seen this? Is this perhaps a bad memory chip that is being constantly repaired by the ECC logic... --Chuck

22 years, 10 months

WTB: Atari Portfolio

by netsurfer_x1＠hotmail.com

Anybody out there got an Atari Portfolio (in good condition) with manuals and 1 (or 2!) 64K memory cards they'd like to part with? If so, submit your offers off the list direct to me. Thank you. ____________________________________________________________ David Vohs, Digital Archaeologist & Computer Historian. Home page: http://www.geocities.com/netsurfer_x1/ Computer Collection: "Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, MPS-801. "Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II. "Delorean": TI-99/4A, TI Speech Synthesizer. "Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable. "Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3, Disto 512K RAM board. "Boombox": Sharp PC-7000. "Butterfly": Tandy Model 200, PDD, CCR-82. "Shapeshifter": Epson QX-10, Titan graphics & MS-DOS board, Comrex HDD. "Scout": Otrona Attache. ____________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

22 years, 10 months

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test-drb July 2001