test-drb July 2001

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by mjsnodgr＠rockwellcollins.com

Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com>@classiccmp.org on 07/19/2001 03:21:47 PM Please respond to classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Sent by: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org cc: Subject: Re: OT: DSL Woes (was RE: Plato terminal At 01:31 PM 7/19/01 -0500, you wrote: >I'm troubled by the desire of companies to provide mission critical services >over consumer quality telecommunication and computer equipment. And you wonder why they went out of business? DSL can be much more reliable than Cable Modems but it does have to be installed properly, and you need to have the correct filter at the junction box to prevent interference with line noise. --Chuck -------------------------------------------------------- Very true. Qwest (Formerly U.S.Worst,er West) in Cedar Rapids Iowa has fairly decent DSL. They don't futz around with your computer like the @Home cable modem folks do. I've had 256k DSL for about 9 months now and had about 37 minutes of down time. (~20 min, and then ~17 min a couple months later) Of course I live in a bedroom community about 5 blocks from the TelCo switch. <grin> My only gripe is that the Cisco 675 DSL router/modem they sold me MUST be in routing mode, not bridging mode, and it does not have the capability to do port forwarding. <sigh> So you can't run a server to save your soul. - M.S.

25 years, 1 month

Alpha CPUs & motherboards

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 20, Eric Dittman wrote: > > That would be downright silly, because they haven't EOLed the > > line...they've announced that the WILL EOL it, in what should be a > > couple of years. > > There is a lot of panic about the future EOL of the Alpha, with > a lot of people equating that to the end of OpenVMS, which is > wrong. This is just another architecture transition. I would Yup. > have preferred that the Alpha go on, but the real point is the > OS, not the CPU. Well, for some folks, maybe. If someone sticks me in a project with a crappy OS, I will find the source and fix it (unless it's Windoze, of course, but I don't consider that an OS!)...whereas if someone sticks me with a crappy processor, well, there's little one can do. > I can see people trying to stock up spares ahead of the EOL, > though. It would be better to grab them while they are > plentiful and cheap than to wait until the EOL when people > will want to stockpile some of the items that will be harder > to get later. Good point. But the EOL is *years* away. Isn't this a little premature, even for the "careful folk"? -Dave McGuire

25 years, 1 month

DEC LP25 (help?)

by classiccmp＠knm.yi.org

Hi, I'm new to the list, so just a quick bit about me - I'm in my 3rd year of a 4 year MEng Software Engineering degree at UMIST, UK, and I'm quite happily collecting machines (much to the annoyance of my parents :&) Anyway - the point of the mail is... I've been given an LP25, and it's not a happy beastie :&( When you turn it on, it's status display says "P" (power fault), and lo and behold, it's right. There's a definate lack of any regulated voltages on the motherboard, the only voltage there is the 38V RAW voltage, which is within limits. So I've decided that the power board is at fault. The Maintainance Manual says "Check fuses..." which I've done - all fine. So I figure there's a fault on the power board. Problem is, I don't have any schematics for the power board, so I can't really test it, without a lot of trial and error. I'd be very grateful if someone could point me at somewhere I might find something useful, or even lend me the details, if you've got them :&) (oh, and if anyone in the UK has a spare VMS 5.x docset up for grabs... or perhaps a DECwriter :&) -- Matt --- E-mail: matt(a)pkl.net, matt(a)knm.yi.org, matt(a)printf.net matt(a)m-techdiagnostics.ltd.uk, matthew.london(a)stud.umist.ac.uk mattl(a)vcd.student.utwente.nl, mlondon(a)mail.talk-101.com Web Page: http://knm.yi.org/ http://pkl.net/~matt/ PGP Key fingerprint = 00BF 19FE D5F5 8EAD 2FD5 D102 260E 8BA7 EEE4 8D7F PGP Key http://knm.yi.org/matt-pgp.html

25 years, 1 month

Another Amiga question

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> At 07:22 PM 7/19/01 -0700, Zane H. Healy wrote: > >Though as I was cursing this morning, even with MacOS 9.1 a Mac can't format > >a floppy and do something else. I love my G4/450, but that's just plain > >pathetic. > > And I thought that having dual processors on my G4 would have > some effect allowing doing more than one thing at once, but > it doesn't. I bought it (that is, Apple sold it) months before > OS X was shipped. OS X will use the dual processors. A few > odd PhotoShop plugins use it. The distributed.net client uses it. > Other than that, I wasted a few hundred bucks. > > - John Yes, BUT this has been a known problem dating back to the Quad-Processor 3rd Party Mac's that were made around '95. How good of a job is OS X doing at dual processors? One would hope pretty good, but I honestly don't know. I bought OS X the day it came out (and have every beta ever released going back to the OPENSTEP 4.2 "Prelude to Rhapsody" release), but I've barely used it, it just isn't ready for my everyday use. By this Fall/Winter it's starting to sound like it will be. I've got to admit I'm looking forward to the release of Microsoft Office for it, with that, Eudora, Netscrape, and eXodus I should be able to switch. Though in the long run I'll also need to upgrade Photoshop and some other apps. Who knows, I'm happy with 9.1, and might just stay there for another year or two, if not longer. After all it does everything I need, and something tells me it's going to be a minimum of another year before I feel the need to upgrade to a newer system. I made about 2.8 years with my 8500/180, and it looks like I'll do even better with the G4/450 as they're just finally starting to come out with systems that should be significantly faster than my system (something to realize is my system is from the very first batch of G4/450's sold). However, unlike the 8500/180, it doesn't look like I'll be skipping a processor family (though who knows I might). Zane

25 years, 1 month

Anyone need some LN-03 toner refills?

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

...for cost of shipping? Also usable in most Ricoh engine based laser printers. Have five complete, and a sixth partial. -jim jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174

25 years, 1 month

Alpha CPUs & motherboards

by workstations＠poczta.onet.pl

Hello everyone! I'm looking for sources of inexpensive Digital Alpha CPUs and motherboards for a hobby project I'm putting together with my friends. I tried eBay, but there is not much Alpha gear to be found there. I'd be very grateful for any pointers. PS. I love this list. Jacek -- Czatuj, wyslij sms-y, sprawdz poczte Zainstaluj OnetKomunikatora [ http://ok.onet.pl/ ]

25 years, 1 month

Need helpers for VCF East

by vcf＠siconic.com

Does anyone know where I might find three teenagers in the Marlborough, Massachusetts area wanting to make some money by working various roles at the VCF? If so, please reply to <sellam(a)vintage.org> ASAP. I will discuss the details with you and you can pass them along to any potential slave^H^H^H^H^H Event Services Engineer ;) Thanks! Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

25 years, 1 month

OT: Coke/Pepsi (was: Apple II for intro to microprocessors

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 18, 11:21, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote: > Shortly after that, the U.S.A. and USSR (CCCP) normalized diplomatic > relations enough to import vodka and export Pepsi to Russia. Definitely OT: one of my prized T-shirts is a Russian Pepsi one :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

25 years, 1 month

Winchester Technology (was Re: MicroVAX equipment

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 20, Bill Bradford wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 09:41:59PM -0400, Dave McGuire wrote: > > I've seen references to "3030" in many books over the years...I'm > > nowhere near old enough to have been there though. > > -Dave McGuire > > Same here, in the "IBM's Early Computers" and "IBM's 360 and Early 370 Systems" > books, which are as close to canon as I can find on the subject... Speaking of which...anyone know where I might get my grubby paws on one of those Micro/370 boards? -Dave McGuire

25 years, 1 month

Alpha CPUs & motherboards

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 20, Eric Dittman wrote: > > > have preferred that the Alpha go on, but the real point is the > > > OS, not the CPU. > > > > Well, for some folks, maybe. If someone sticks me in a project with a > > crappy OS, I will find the source and fix it (unless it's Windoze, of > > course, but I don't consider that an OS!)...whereas if someone sticks > > me with a crappy processor, well, there's little one can do. > > I meant the point is the OS (OpenVMS) and not the CPU (VAX, Alpha, IPF), > not the OS vs. the CPU in general. Ahh, ok... > > Good point. But the EOL is *years* away. Isn't this a little > > premature, even for the "careful folk"? > > Not really. For some of the odd-ball stuff, the sooner the better > (just ask anyone that has to keep a VAX going that uses the Pro3x0- > based console). Eeeek! Yes, you have a point! 8-) -Dave McGuire

25 years, 1 month

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test-drb July 2001