I think Bill's got this one on the nose. A re-incarnation of Next. Maybe
the
industry is more ready for it this time around :>)
Phil
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From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Bill Bradford
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 8:01 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: building a PDP11 from the things you find at home
On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 03:38:46PM +0100, Iggy Drougge wrote:
> Personally, I think there's too much UNIX in OSX. They not only took the
> kernel, but the entire environment as well.
> Otherwise, (this wioll keep us within the ten-year rule), it reminds me of
> MiNT/MultiTOS. Incompetent OS programmers who can't make a functioning,
full-
> featured system of their own just take a kernel off the rack and add some
> glue. Granted, OSX is an entirely new system of its own whereas MiNT
retained
> TOS capability. But it's a tried and old concept.
Actually, as far as I can tell, OS X is a revamped NeXTStep.
Didnt anybody else laugh with glee (to themselves) when Apple
releasd the G4 cube?
"Wait a minute, i've seen this before.."
Bill
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Bill Bradford
mrbill(a)mrbill.net
Austin, TX
Hello, all:
For those interested, I seem to have found at home another copy of the
history of the Apollo guidance computer book by Eldon Hall, speaker at VCFE.
I purchased a signed copy from him today because I thought that I didn't
have a copy at home. Surprise!
So if anyone is interested in the *unsigned* copy, I'll let it go for $35
including shipping. I paid $45 for the signed copy and bought my first copy
on Amazon for about $55.
Again, interested parties please contact me off-list. Thanks.
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
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On July 28, Anthony Clifton - Retrocomputing.com wrote:
> I booted the 3/110 that I got from Tom Uban and it comes up, runs SunOS 4.1.1
> and also runs xwindows. Cool!
>
> All on a spiffy 19" monitor. I think I'm going to like this machine. =)
Kick ass! The 3/110 is a fairly unusual machine. And a significant
departure from the [otherwise reasonably consistent] Sun numbering
scheme. A darn good design, in my opinion.
-Dave McGuire
On July 28, Gene Ehrich wrote:
> > For any of you that wanted to know what's it's like to live in Florida!
>
> I disagree entirely. The record high temperature in the history of the
> Tampa Bay weather bureau is 97. It has never been any higher. We have never
> had a 100 degree day. The hottest days in NJ are much hotter than the
> hottest days here. We have more days above 90. The temperature here is 89,
> 90 or 91 every day. Every summer NJ has many days that are higher than the
> record highs here.
Though the original message was intended to be humorous, I have to
agree with you here. Though I've lived in the Washington DC area now
for about nine years, I've lived in Tampa for a while, and I have a
house (a rental property) in Treasure Island...Every day of the
Washington DC summer that I sweat and choke through leaves me longing
for Tampa Bay weather. Nowhere near this hot in the summer, nowhere
near this cold in the winter, and a certain lack of bullets flying
overhead makes it so much more...relaxing.
-Dave McGuire
I recently found a PDP-11/23 (Model 11C23-FE) at Goodwill. It is in a tall
slim tower style enclosure, has a dual 5.25" floppy disk drive, a hard disk,
and 1024KB. It passes the memory test, and trys to boot from "DU0". The
light on the hard disk comes on for a few seconds, and then I get the
message
ERROR UNIT DU0
ERR 13 DRIVE NOT READY
WISH TO REBOOT [Y,(N)]?
So is something broken, or am I just doing something wrong? Any help is
greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Owen
>> I recently found a PDP-11/23 (Model 11C23-FE) at Goodwill. It is in a
tall
>> slim tower style enclosure, has a dual 5.25" floppy disk drive, a hard
disk,
>> and 1024KB. It passes the memory test, and trys to boot from "DU0".
The
>> light on the hard disk comes on for a few seconds, and then I get the
>> message
>>
>> ERROR UNIT DU0
>> ERR 13 DRIVE NOT READY
>> WISH TO REBOOT [Y,(N)]?
>>
>> So is something broken, or am I just doing something wrong? Any help
is
>> greatly appreciated.
First is there a hard disk drive there????
If there is start with Tony's suggestion of checking the enable and
ready.
IF not, you'll need a drive maybe.
Do either of the floppies or their lights become active????
If they are it's looking for bootable media and there is none.
The other possibility is the drive(s) is/are disconnected or maybe plain
DOA.
Allison
Does anyone know where an online copy of the cipher f880 docs might be
found? What I really need is the definitions of the switch settings internal
to the drive (which one controls parity?).
Thanks,
Bill
I've got 5 Fuji 8" SMD drives (M233x and similar) just
inside the DC beltway (I-495) available immediately. You
pick up only; I will not ship these (weight with power supplies
is 35-45 lbs each). They all worked about three years ago, the
last time I fired them up. Anyone hauling them away also gets
my collection of Emulex SMD controllers and Fuji SMD manuals, and
the rack mount slides/trays, and whatever else I feel like making
you take.
Also available are some 8" Pertec voice-coil floppy drives, in
"parts only" condition. Manuals and some Pertec-specific
test equipment are available too. Again, you-haul.
Email if interested; first-come, first-served.
Tim. (shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com)
I've got the following PDP-11 equipment free for pickup in
Austin, Texas. David Williams from Houston has first shot
since he is coming to pick up some uVAX-IIs, but anything else
left is fair game. If you come get something (email me first!),
you have to promise that it wont be scrapped or the front panels
sold on eBay for some rich CEO's wall collection. I'd like it to
all go to good homes where it will be appreciated. (god, I sound
like an animal shelter)
- PDP-11/60 and UNIBUS expansion cage (and some maintenance printsets)
- two RX01's
- one RK05J
If anyone is interested, please email me. This stuff CAN NOT and WILL
NOT be shipped - i cant even get some of it out of the crate I got it
in. 8-(
Bill
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Bill Bradford
mrbill(a)mrbill.net
Austin, TX
> Don't you think it strange the bidding went from $50 to $600 in one bid?
> When $50 seemed to high?
> I smell a wumpus, or a rat!
I've seen this happen a couple of times. Someone that really wants
something will put a very high bid in, knowing that no matter what
happens the eBay bidding mechanism will automatically up their bid.
Someone else that really wants the same thing will then come along
and put in a very high bid. This causes the bid to automatically
shoot up to the lowest of the high bids.
Fortunately I don't bid this way. I only bid what I'm willing
to pay and that's it.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
