Hi folks (especially fellow kids) out there,
using your easter holidays to dig through stuff in your parents' basement
can be fun...I ended up yesterday with a long-forgotten Fujitsu FANUC/Siemens
19" unit (in a cardboard box with lotsa connectors, replacement fuses and even
some paperwork for it) which gives me the general impression of once having
been used to control some kind of NC drilling/milling/whatsoever machine. As
I'm not very good at describing stuff, I called a friend and we took some
shots with his digicam. I can't offer them on a homepage like all the others
(haven't got one yet); will it work if I simply send them to the list as an
attachment to one of my posts?
The thing consists of a metal frame with a PSU as the base unit, a keyboard
PCB directly behind the front panel, a bus board (also upright-standing)
behind that, and three PCBs plugging into it from the back side. Two cooling fans
blow into the casing from the left side. The back side of the PSU held a
4.5V memory backup battery that made a gigantic mess by losing some of its
contents while in storage, creating bluish-white crusts on the frame and inside
the cardboard box...Except for one corner of the PSU regulator board, the
electronics were apparently not affected.
There is no front label telling the model or anything (Inside the machine,
there is a metal Siemens type label with the number 321/22113 on it), but I
remember seeing the thing together with a monitor (also 19" form factor)
labeled "SIEMENS Sinumerik ..."; I'm afraid my parents eventually tossed that some
time ago. Why didn't I always care about Vintage Computers the way I do
nowadays...?
The included documentation is:
-A4 "Siemens Sinumerik logbook" (empty)
-A3 "FANUC mate TG Maintenance Drawing" (from 1979, with notes both in
English and Japanese)
-A4 "FANUC Customer's Maintenance Instruction (for ulti-mate TG)"
-A4 "FANUC MATE TG Data sheet"
The last one gives a model (A03B-0402-B001) and a serial number (1883815),
October 1980 as date of manufacture, and Siemens AG as customer.
According to the rule that the processor "always is the big socketed IC", in
this case we deal with an MB8861H, a 40-pin DIL IC in a white ceramic
housing. The schematics call it the MPU (=Main Processing Unit?).
I am looking forward to your replies, especially as I hope to get a hint on
what the system is capable of. Perhaps even enough to persuade my parents
into keeping it and looking for a monitor somewhere...
Arno Kletzander
Arno_1983(a)gmx.de
--
GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet.
http://www.gmx.net
I have been lurking here for a while, thinking about getting into the
field.
None of you seem to be in and around Chicago ??
Anyway, I have a nice start with the computers that I bought when they were
new.
MITS Altair 8800 (early model with the short panel switches) -- this
includes a number of hand-made wire-wrapped gadgets, original box (very
tattered), original MITS invoices, original assembly manuals (for the kit),
and Microsoft's first version of Altair BASIC on paper-tape with the
original manual.
It all worked about 15 years ago.
Fortune Systems 32:16. Fortune attempted to mass-market a 68000-based unix
box. A great machine -- but it was introduced a few months before the the
IBM PC -- which doomed it.
I also have a lot of mac stuff, including an early Mac II; a PowerMac
6100/60, various PCs.
I also have a number of old industrial PLCs -- Modicon, Allen Bradley, GE
Series One.
On April 10, THETechnoid(a)home.com wrote:
> I'd like to see some of your lists. I bet some of you would be hard
> pressedd to list your whole collection in a message that the list server
> would accept (too large).
Hmm. This is from memory, and some of the items here aren't ten
years old yet, while others are still in production use here. This is
simply all of the "older" systems here that I have stuck in my head.
DEC PDP
-------
PDP8/e (two)
PDP8/m
PDP11/03, /05, /23, /24, /34a, /53, /73 (several)
Pro350, 380 (several)
SBC11/21
PDT11/150
MINC-11
DEC VAX
-------
MicroVAX-I
MicroVAX-II (several)
VAXstation-II (several)
MicroVAX-2000 (several)
VAXstation-2000 (several)
MicroVAX-3000 series (several)
MicroVAX 3100
VAXstation 3100 (several, various models)
VAXstation 3540
VAXstation 4000/60, /90
VAX4000-200, -300, -400 (two), -700A
VAX8350
VAX8700
DEC RISC
--------
DECstation 2100, 3100 (several)
DECstation 5000/120, /125, /133 (several)
DECstation 5000/200, /240 (several)
DECsystem 5810
DECsystem 5900
Cray
----
YMP/EL94 (not quite ten years old)
YMP/EL98 (ditto)
Sun
---
Sun 2/120
Sun 3/50 (several)
Sun 3/60 (several)
Sun 3/110, 3/160
Sun 3/260
Sun 4/110 (several), 4/150, 4/260, 4/330, 4/470
Sun 4/630MP, 4/670MP
SPARCstation-1/1+/2
SPARCstation-SLC/ELC
SPARCclassic (several)
SPARCstation-LX (several)
Older SGI
---------
Crimson Jurassic Classic
NeXT
----
NeXT '030 cube
NeXT '040 cube (several)
NeXT '040 turbo cube
NeXTstation
NeXTstation turbo
NeXTstation turbo color (several)
HP
--
HP-85
HP-87XM
HP-71D
HP-75C
HP-75D
HP9000/340
HP9000/715 (several)
HP9000/735 (several)
HP Calculators
--------------
HP10C
HP11C
HP12C (several)
HP25C
HP28C
HP28S
HP29C
HP35
HP45 (several)
HP41C
HP41CV (several)
HP41CX
HP48SX
HP65
HP67 (several)
HP80
HP97 (several)
Micros
------
IMSAI 8080
TRS-80 Model 4
TRS-80 Pocket Computer I
Timex/Sinclair 1000
AT&T
----
UnixPC 7300 (several)
3B1 (several)
3B2/300
SBCs/eval boards
----------------
Intel SDK-85
HP 8085 briefcase trainer
various 8080 trainers
various 6800 trainers
Heathkit ET-3400 6802 trainer (several)
AMD Am2901 eval board
MIPS R3000 eval board
>Wanna provide 2-meter talk in?
I know there are a bunch of good local repeaters... a few are
run by the group at WPI...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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From: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com>
>On April 8, emanuel stiebler wrote:
>> In the beginning of the '80 I was sitting on a VT100 with an
>> additional/optional
>> "selenar graphics board"
>>
>> Anybody out here, ever heard of such beast or has one ?
>>
>> As far as I remember, it had an z80 on it, and was emulating an
>> Tektronix 4010 or something similar.
I dont recall it being 401x anything. It was SIXEL or Regis.
> Now, though, I have two VT100s with the VT125 graphics option
>installed. They're neat!
Best viewed with Barco Color monitor attached.
Allison
In a message dated Thu, 5 Apr 2001 6:28:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> writes:
<< >> Noteworthy SCSI II adapter, NWSCSI01
>> 3Com EtherLink 10bt, 3C589D
>> Xircom Netwave Adapter, CNW
>
>I believe www.computersurplusoutlet.com had some 3com dongles
>at $7.00 -- but I don't know if they're for that model.
3Com I don't sweat, fairly common, I "may" even have one, and one style of
dongle fits a bunch of 3Com cards. I mention it mostly on the chance that
some member of the list is the grand dragon of dongle collecting, sitting
on a huge hoard of dongles.
>>
3c589d needs the 10b2/10bT dongle - or at least mine does :-)
-Linc Fessenden
From: Bill Pechter <pechter(a)pechter.dyndns.org>
>> Megan Gentry
>> Former RT-11 Developer
>
>Wanna provide 2-meter talk in?
>
>Bill
>N2RDI
If she dont I can. ;) There are a potload of repeaters in the region
wil excellent coverage too.
Allison
KB1GMX
---- and the gimmics are all mine----
> From: John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com>
> At 10:35 PM 4/10/01 -0400, David Gesswein wrote:
> >The software I use to make my tiff files available as PDF will convert
> >them.
> >ftp://ftp.pdp8.net/software/c42pdf/
>
> So this tool just creates a simple PDF containing all the G4 TIFFs?
>
Yes
> This morning I was looking at the 20K+ scanned pages of documents
> I received recently. They're all G4 TIFF, about 800 megs worth.
> The scans are quite clean, but it's just directories of loose files,
> page0001.tif, page0002.tif, etc.
>
The tiffcp program I use with it will combine separate tiff pages into
one document.
> TIFF-based multi-page single-linked PDFs would be good, but
> OCR'd and searchable in conjunction with the bitmap would be even better.
>
> I've got Acrobat 4.0 for my Mac G4, but that doesn't OCR, does it?
>
I played with OCR a while ago and none were accurate enough that you didn't
need to spend a lot of time cleaning up if you were only using the OCR
output. They also had problems maintaining format but did pretty good if
you went to PDF. PDF does have an ability to store documents with both the
bitmap for viewing/printing and OCR text to allow searching etc. Adobe
capture is the big one for that but expensive. Pagis used to support it
and was inexpensive but dropped that capability.
Links from when I was looking. Since I still had/have lots of documents
left to scan I decided fancy features which take time can wait.
http://web3.humboldt1.com/~jiva/ocr/_ocr_resource.htmhttp://cpdf.adobe.com/index.pl/4224310545.38939?BP=NShttp://www.pdfzone.com/
Let me know what you find that you like.
David Gesswein
http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computer with blinkenlights
Howdy,
Yesterday I went to a couple of secondhand stores in town. I was
excited to find a U.S. Robotics 56k x2 Sportster Modem with the
original box (for a Macintosh) for one dollar! I have an identical
one that I use & I was glad to get another one to upgrade my Mom's
Mac from 33.6k to 56k. I figured it would be easy to update it to
v.90 with the USR Update Wizard because that's what I did to mine a
couple of years ago. WRONG! The server that the Wizard dialed has a
busy signal. After searching on the web for half an hour, I finally
tried calling U.S. Robotics. After sitting on hold for 20 minutes &
being asked stupid questions for another 10, I finally got my answer.
That update server has been down for 4 months ever since USR & 3Com
split the sheets. So I asked if I could get a disk to use (the
updater can update via phone or disk). NO! Unavailable! So imagine my
chagrin now when my bargain modem is hobbled at 56k x2. I think it is
only connecting at 33.6k, but Remote Access reports "unknown speed".
Would anybody have the disk that the Update Wizard needs to bring me
to v.90. Also, I found a Amstrad PC1512 & a Visual Commuter
Computer. Are these collectible or just more ordinary PC clones?
Thanks,
Steve C.
Williston, ND
