As we all know, Ethernet was only running at 3 Mbit in the early days. When
was the move to 10 Mbit done and is 10Mb Ethernet backwards compatible?
Also, were there any Ethernet controllers back in the old days, or what kind
of interfacing did old Ethernet capable equipment such as the SUN 1 or DECNA
use?
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Was ist ein Erwachsener? Ein Kind, das vom Alter aufgepumpt ist.
--- Simone de Beauvoir
On April 22, jpero(a)sympatico.ca wrote:
> > Hi. Can anybody provide me with some info on the IBM PGA/PGC adapters for
> > the IBM PC/XT systems?
> >
> > I heard that it is one of the first video adapters with on-board transform
> > capabilities, and that it is very ahead of its time. Can anyone please
> > elaborate?
> > Also, where can I get some pictures, and is it still available for
> > purchase?
>
> Half-half acceleration due to built in CPU and can compute arcs,
> lines etc for cad work I think.
>
> But I know PGA is grossly unusual design and unrealistic cost kept it
> from very common plus it requires non-standard PGA monitor to go with
> it. Cost was about 5,000 I think.
>
> BTW, it is 3 boards package and monitor. Saw both monitor and card
> set but not in action.
If memory serves, the PGA had an 8085 processor on it. Interesting
use of an otherwise general-purpose microprocessor.
<flame bait>
Indeed, an XT-class system with a PGA had a better processor on its
video board than it did on its motherboard.
</flame bait>
-Dave McGuire
I have a few PCjrs running around, and I've often thought of
either adding 3.5" drives to them, or replacing the standard
5.25" drive with 3.5" drives. The controller only supports
double density data rates (250?), so I'm limited to 720KB
3.5" drives. These are getting hard to find.
I connected a new 1.44MB drive to the controller, and
behold, it worked! (With double density media of course.)
The machine booted from the diskette (which was created from
a 360kb image prepared on a Linux machine), and it also ran
diagnostics. So now I'm confused - why did it work?
Does the modern 1.44MB drive sense that the controller is
only sending data at 250KHz rate? If so, how is it doing
the sensing? (The reduced write-current pin (2) isn't
being used - I verified that with a meter.)
Thanks,
Mike
From: Clint Wolff (VAX collector) <vaxman(a)qwest.net>
>The cages I've seen are made from an expensive copper screen,
>like window screen, but they are for doing FCC interference
>measurements, not shielding. I can get 1/2 inch square fencing
>from the look home improvement center, but it is galvanized and
>quite a bit coarser...
>
>Comments?
First a faraday cage to run a vax is foolish. The FCC notice
refered to is basically a hint about whose reponseability it
is to fix RFI problems should they occur. Often it's not a problem
save for at point blank range.
RE: galvanized screening vs fine copper screening. If you cant do it
right dont bother. As the holes get larger and the resistivity increases
the attenuation decreases. Also as the holes get bigger the frequency
at which the screen becomes RF transparent also gets lower.
So to get an effective faraday screen fine copper screening with
well bonded (often soldered) joints and a door that has RF tight joints
are used. Also any wires that enter or leave have to be bypassed
to avoid it becomming a leakage path in either direction. I participated
in building one and it's a lot of work and after testing to find RF
leaks.
At the other extreme a cage of .500 galvanized will have effect but the
effect is far more limited. to prove it take a roll and make a mini cage
large anough to hold a battery AM/FM radio and see what I can hear
>from inside it. Then take a tube and coat it with aluminum foil
and try it with the same radio. You will also find it very difficult to
solder or otherwise effectively bond the joints of a galvanized wire
cage.
Last item: The average system (even a PDP-8) will be much better
in the RFI derby if all the covers are on and the correct cables are
used. The later smaller one box systems are fairly decent if the
case is metal and all the screws/hardware are in place.
The killer items for RFI are SCSI cables, external disks that used
any unshielded cables (BC05s come to mind) or monitors that
used shielded cables but are incorrectly terminated. RS232 wires
that do not use an external shield can be a path to propagate noise
out of and otherwise tolerable box as well.
Worst offender awards:
TRS80 with EI... ghastly both radiating and affected by nearby
transmitters. (1w 144mhz ht at 4ft would crash the average TRS80).
Some of the Apple][s
Early S100s with non-stripline and unterminated busses (altair!!!!).
SBCs, no case at all most often.
Many of the early all plastic cased (no internal conductive spray
coat)
with no internal shielding systems.
Many (most) CRTs that are not metal boxed internally are noisy.
Allison
The microbiology lab where I worked kept a different card with each type of
pathology report on them. The operator would enter the sample information
into a "canned" document, and then could append any additional comments.
These machines were real popular in the early 1970's for thesis typing and
routine reports. You could put a chapter or a section on an individual
card. Our secretary in graduate school had one and kept all the routine
documents on individual cards. You wanted to requisition something she put
in the requisition mag card, filled in the blanks and printed out the
requisition. The unit had a IBM Selectric style printer as an output
device.
Mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
Hi my name
is Dave i live in NewZealand i have been givern a PPC640 wich goes but it wants a start up disc if u have one could you please send a copy of it to me on brav(a)zfree.co.nz i would love to crank it up.
I'm trying to reduce the size and increase the sensibility of
my collection, so I'll pass this one to the list... please
contact him, not me.
- John
>From: "Wayne Gilmore" <wayneg(a)aa.net>
>To: "John Foust" <jfoust(a)threedee.com>
>Subject: Re: Old Computers
>Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:11:57 -0700
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200
>
>Hi again John,
>I am located in Bothell, Washington. A few miles north of Seattle.
>Wayne
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com>
>To: Wayne Gilmore <wayneg2(a)mindspring.com>
>Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 12:35 PM
>Subject: Re: Old Computers
>
>
>> At 12:16 PM 4/21/01 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Hi. I have 3 northstar computers that I bought new and used for
>business and as a personal pc before pc's.... yuk.. Also have a Morrow
>Discjokey system that worked with it. I'd like to donate all... Manuals and
>anything else that I have had to someone that wants them. Help
>> >Thanks
>> >Wayne Gilmore
>>
>> Wonderful! Where are you located?
>>
>> - John
>>
I'm trying to reduce the size and increase the sensibility of
my collection, so I'll pass this one to the list... please
contact him, not me.
- John
>From: "Wayne Gilmore" <wayneg(a)aa.net>
>To: "John Foust" <jfoust(a)threedee.com>
>Subject: Re: Old Computers
>Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:11:57 -0700
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200
>
>Hi again John,
>I am located in Bothell, Washington. A few miles north of Seattle.
>Wayne
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com>
>To: Wayne Gilmore <wayneg2(a)mindspring.com>
>Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 12:35 PM
>Subject: Re: Old Computers
>
>
>> At 12:16 PM 4/21/01 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Hi. I have 3 northstar computers that I bought new and used for
>business and as a personal pc before pc's.... yuk.. Also have a Morrow
>Discjokey system that worked with it. I'd like to donate all... Manuals and
>anything else that I have had to someone that wants them. Help
>> >Thanks
>> >Wayne Gilmore
>>
>> Wonderful! Where are you located?
>>
>> - John
>>
In a message dated 4/23/01 9:00:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
r_beaudry(a)hotmail.com writes:
>
> I have an 8K cartridge, and I believe also a 16K cartridge gathering dust
on
> my shelves. Email me your address, and I'll ship them off to you ... No
> guarantees that they work, but they're free :-)
>
I would love to have one of these myself.. Let me know if there are any
"extras" floating around!
-Linc Fessenden
The nice thing about Windows is - It does not just crash, it displays a
dialog box and lets you press 'OK' first.