test-drb April 2001

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Free PDP-11 equipment: [3 PDP-11s in working order] in UK

by John.Honniball＠uwe.ac.uk

Anybody in the UK want a PDP-11? This message was sent to the Sun Rescue list (please contact sender at BA directly). ----- Forwarded message from "Aristocleous, Aristoteles O" <Aristoteles.O.Aristocleous(a)BritishAirways.com> ----- Date: 10 Apr 2001 11:06:47 Z From: "Aristocleous, Aristoteles O" <Aristoteles.O.Aristocleous(a)BritishAirways.com> Subject: 3 PDP-11s in working order Hi We are about to throw out 3 PDP-11s, with tape drives, which were in working order when they were powered off, together with some Versatect Printers. They should all still be in working order. We are based at London Heathrow, UK. If you are interested, or know of anyone who would be interested in these machines (in order to save them from the tip), please let me know as soon as possible. If you do want them, I think you will need a tail lift truck, and you must remove ALL the equipment in one visit. You (or the person who wants it) must also agree not to make any BA programs or BA data which can found or recovered from the machines available to anyone, or use it in any way or for any purpose. We have a lift which is capable of carrying the PDPs down to ground level. Best Regards Aris. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21st century air travel http://www.britishairways.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- John Honniball Email: John.Honniball(a)uwe.ac.uk University of the West of England

24 years, 1 month

What is the current Teledisk version #...

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

Digging through my old disks, I've turned up 2.23

24 years, 1 month

CPT 8525... what is it?

by jde＠alpha1.net

If anyone knows anything about the Panasonic KX-D4910 portable data terminal please let me know. I would also like to know what emulation can be used like it. I still need to use one of these to program an older phone system. Thanks. jde(a)alpha1.net

24 years, 1 month

Collection list (just for phun)

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 4/11/01 1:44:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, spectre(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu writes: > I just realised that I forgot the GRiD 1530. I'd love to get one of the > pen GRiDs, though -- this thing is too bulky to be useful to me. > > -- That reminds me - I forgot to list my GRiDcase 3 as well.. It has 2 10 meg hard drives, a battery, a charger, a power pack and the original GRiD laptop bag :-) -Linc Fessenden A good magician never reveals his secret; the unbelievable trick becomes simple and obvious once it is explained. So too with LINUX! The nice thing about Windows is - It does not just crash, it displays a dialog box and lets you press 'OK' first.

24 years, 1 month

Docs for Morrow MD3

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

anyone ahve the documentation for the MD3? PDF format would be great....

24 years, 1 month

HP 9000 520

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Jarkko Teppo <jarkko.teppo(a)er-grp.com> wrote: > The second machine doesn't want to boot, halts with "Fever finstrates than > expected". I really haven't had the time to investigate yet. A "finstrate" is a board (any board, CPU, IOP or memory) in the processor card cage. What's in there? -Frank McConnell

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Two additions to Collection

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Today I picked up a Leading Edge Technical Reference manual and diagnostics diskette at a thrift store in great shape with blank warranty card in jacket. Got a donation of a SPARCstation 2 with keyboard, mouse, special metal mousepad, 19" color monitor, external hard drive (two in the case), and all the cables. The unit fires up and is loaded but the battery is dead.

24 years, 1 month

HP Journals FS -- HP 9815, 9825 calculators, HP 2100 computers, etc.

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I have just finished listing a bunch of HP Journals on E-bay. Several of them contain articles about the HP 9815 and 9825 calculators, HP 2100 computers and other items of interest to this group. I will be listing more of them tomorrow including at least one issue full of articles about the HP 25 and other Woodstock calculators. You can see the complete list at "http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&u serid=rigdonj(a)intellistar.net". Joe

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SWTP info needed

by pbboy＠mindspring.com

I picked up a SWTP central processing unit, model /09. What is this? It has a SWTP cpu card (MP-09B) with a 2 MHz MC68B09P, a Hazelwood card marked DM-64 and a Microworks card with an MC68B21P on it. The MicroWorks card has wires through the rear of the case. It also has 3 serial and 1 parallel cards. The Hazelwood card looks burned a bit on the back side of one transistor. The CPU card looks ok, but I don't want to power it up without first checking the power supply. What are the voltages for the power supply? What is the MicroWorks card? Does anyone have any docs or info for this, maybe a website? Thanks. Robert

24 years, 1 month

Collection list (just for phun)

by jpero＠sympatico.ca

Crazy large # of Macs collector, wow. My very modest collection: Mac 1 x C610/AAUI modified to 28MHz on 68040-25 (not bogus LC040) 1 x Mac II my most recent find, beat all of my for OLDest machine. 1 x LC III o/c'ed to 33 1 x Performa 466. Coming: PowerMac 7100 barebones looking for parts to build up this PM. Offering some of my collection where noted to fund this power Mac rebuild. Ebay sucks sometimes especially when buying US cash with worthless canadian funds. Peecees: 1 x Asus P2B rev1.04 PII 350 1 x Asus P5A w/ bastardized P5A-B bios running unlocked P55C 2.5x100MHz as bench pc to test parts. 1 x Asus A7pro w/ duron 800, mini-vroom! 1 x SLT 286 w/ power brick and 1024K ram module installed, all working to trade for Mac parts, no battery. 1 x DECpc XL 466d2 unused, empty shell except for PSU, motherboard, floppy and cpu 486 card. 1 x Aero to trade for power mac parts, request for details on Aero. 1 x TP701. PS/2s 1 x P75 1 x 70-Axx if u don't know what this suffix means, it's one hotshot 386DX in small desktop box IBM ever made or since in PS/2 era. 1 x complete base 90 XP w/ 256K cache, dx 33 complex w/ latest 4GB support bios, 64MB, stock scsi card w/ original scsi cable (!!), looking to trade for PowerMac 6,7,8100 series parts. Best to ship this 90 in parts minus chassis, too heavy to ship at reasonably cost. All that in a 20 x 18 bedroom and all other junk and still have space to walk and sleep comfortably. (!!) Note, if anybody have 6100, 7100, 8100 PM, all the removeable parts like ROM simm, PDS cards (HPV etc) and cache stick except for some items are all same. That 7100 needs a rom stick or complete 7100 motherboard w/ rom stick. Also if anybody have 1MB HPV card to trade for my parts. Cheers, Wizard

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Confirmed speakers for VCF East

by vcf＠siconic.com

I am thrilled to announce that Wayne Green, the mogul of the veritable publishing empire that is Wayne Green Publications, and Jon Titus, designer of the Mark-8 computer, are confirmed as speakers at VCF East! Also, Kevin Stumpf of the Nostalgic Technophile and author of the first ever book on computer collecting, "A Guide to Collecting Computers and Computer Collectibles". http://www.nostalgictechnophile.com More to come! Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

24 years, 1 month

vt100 & graphics

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: emanuel stiebler <emu(a)ecubics.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:49 AM Subject: Re: vt100 & graphics >Dave McGuire wrote: >> >> Now, though, I have two VT100s with the VT125 graphics option >> installed. They're neat! > >Was there really an option, or is it just aother mainboard ? It was an option to the main video board. Actually other than some shared timing and IO it could be though ot as a VT100 text terminal and graphics terminal with the video combined (you could do both!). Allison

24 years, 1 month

List dead?

by rhblake＠bigfoot.com

Haven't seen a bit of mail out of this list - is it broke?

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OT somewhat. China, our aircraft, delays.

by blacklord＠telstra.com

> Intrusion?? Offending?? Why, because Americans care about what is > taking place between the USA and China? I wouldn't be offended if an > Israeli talked about the stuff in there country with the > Palestinians. > Why is it that because a list is "International" that everyone is > expected to pretend that they don't live in a country? > Chad, The entire topic is thoroughly irrelavant to the list, this is Classic Computers, not International_Espionage, not last time I looked anyway :- ) ---------------- Powered by telstra.com

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OT somewhat. China, our aircraft, delays.

by blacklord＠telstra.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 5:13 am Subject: Re: OT somewhat. China, our aircraft, delays. Agreed! > Maybe the biggest objection is that it is completely and totally > off-topic > for a mailing list dedicated to discussing old computers? > > The LAST thing I want is an "Us vs. Them" argument in ClassicCmp. > > In ClassicCmp, as in Cyerbspace, there are no borders. > > Sellam Ismail Vintage > Computer Festival > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > International Man of Intrigue and Danger > http://www.vintage.org > ---------------- Powered by telstra.com

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(no subject)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Thats pretty bizzare looking if it's for 8251 and the cmos cousin. You sure you not talking to something else as 8251s were never 153kb/s and I doubt the cmos parts were much faster. The addresses seems strange but that may be an interface oddity. Also most 8251s needed a few reads in the init after reset to clean them out. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Mekonnen Tekeste <M.Tekeste(a)Bradford.ac.uk> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:26 AM > >Can Any one help me please? i am trying to interface a bar code reader >to PCI Bus via a 82C51 (UART), and i wrote a code to support my >hardware design but the software it seem wrong. Here is the code: > > > >#include <conio.h> >#include <stdio.h> >#include <dos.h> > >/* Type Definitions */ > >typedef unsigned char UBYTE; /* Old habbit... */ > >/* Serial Port Definitions */ > >#define STATUS 0x308 /* Status Base Address */ >#define CONTROL 0x300 /* Control Base Address */ >#define TXREG 0x30C /* Transmit Base Address */ >#define RXREG 0x304 /* Receive Base Address */ >#define TRUE 1 > >/* Function Prototypes */ > >void InitUSART(void); /* Initialize USART */ >void TxData(UBYTE); /* Transmit Data */ >UBYTE RxData(void); /* Receive Data */ > >/* > InitUSART() - Initialize USART to 153600, 8 Data Bits, No Parity, 1 Stop >Bit >*/ >void InitUSART(void) >{ > outp(CONTROL, 0x40); // Reset UART > outp(CONTROL, 0x4E); // Stop, no parity, 8-bit, %16 baud > outp(CONTROL, 0x05); // UART now ready >} > >/* > TxData() - Send Data to Serial Port > Entry: > data = Data to transmit >*/ >void TxData(UBYTE data) >{ > UBYTE x; > > /* Check for Tx Buffer Empty */ > do > { > x = inp(STATUS); > x &= 0x01; > } while(x == 0); > > outp(TXREG, data); /* Send Data */ >} > >/* > RxData() - Receive Data from the Serial Port > Exit: > data = Rx Data byte >*/ >UBYTE RxData(void) >{ > UBYTE x; > UBYTE data = 0; > > while(TRUE) /* Check for Rx Data */ > { > x = inp(STATUS); > x &= 0x02; > if(x == 0x02) > { > data = inp(RXREG); /* Get Data */ > break; > } > > /* Optional. Aborts if keypress */ > > if(kbhit()) /* Abort if Keypress */ > { > getch(); > printf("\n"); > break; > } > } > return(data); >} > > >void main(void) >{ > > >InitUSART(); > >while(TRUE) > putch(RxData()); >} > > > > > > > >

24 years, 1 month

Now taking exhibit entries for VCF East!!!

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> > >I think I am about to announce that the first VCF East will be held at the >Centrum Centre in Worcester, Massachusetts. The tentative dates are June >23-24. Cool I might just be able to make this one. Worcester is only 45 minutes or so west of me. Who knows I can do some face/name association if it works out. Allison

24 years, 1 month

Heath/Zenith stuff

by jss＠ou.edu

Looks like some local Saint Louis collector has already picked up the stuff. Game over. -- Jeffrey S. Sharp jss(a)ou.edu

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Minimum VMS Version for VS4000?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Does anyone happen to know the minimum version of VMS that will run on a VAXstation 4000? Either a VLC, m60, or m90. Alternativelly, does anyone know what the max VMS version Oracle 7.0.12 or 6.0.36.7 will support on OpenVMS? Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

24 years, 1 month

NeXT slabs, recent finds and a request...and a spelling checker for who?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 10, Claude.W wrote: > Also, I have an excuse for MY spelling mistakes...I am french.... No worries, Claude; your english is perfectly readable... -Dave McGuire

24 years, 1 month

Wonder (was Re: just outta curiosity)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 10, Carlos Murillo wrote: > Sigh. I could not afford to pay a yearly Matlab license for a > unix machine with personal money. I did manage to buy a Wintel license > for personal use a couple years ago in a group purchase. > And no, octave and Scilab are not yet up to the task. How much are those Unix licenses these days? > I do prefer unix for my numerics work whenever I have a choice. > Still, my home PC is full of Win32 ports of Unix packages :-) . > No msoffice or anything like that if I can avoid it. Bravo! :-) -Dave McGuire

24 years, 1 month

Minimum VMS Version for VS4000?

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

> Does anyone happen to know the minimum version of VMS that will run on a > VAXstation 4000? Either a VLC, m60, or m90. I'm pretty certain the minimum for the 4000/60 is 5.5-2. I didn't get a /90 until well after they were out, so I don't the minimium for that and I've never seen a VLC. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

24 years, 1 month

List dead?

by Demon02554＠aol.com

as far as i can tell this thing works fine

24 years, 1 month

Why Worcester was chosen for VCF East 1.0

by CordaAJ＠nswc.navy.mil

It's a bit further north than I would have preferred, but I can't fault your reasoning... And besides, I'm an old WPI alumnus (class of 77), so it'll be a real nostalgia trip for me :-) BTW, anyone else on the list an old WPI hacker (and when I say "hacker", I'm referring to it's archaic meaning, rather than it's current derogatory meaning...) > -----Original Message----- > From: Claude.W [mailto:claudew@videotron.ca] > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:21 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Why Worcester was chosen for VCF East 1.0 > > > Hi all... > > Well...VCF east hey at Worcester,MA hey....hmmmm...... > > Hey, it's even only a 6 hour drive from Montreal...! > > Ill be easy to spot : 6'4 with a tuque... > > Claude > Canuk Computer Collector > http://computer_collector.tripod.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> > To: Classic Computers Mailing List <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 3:07 AM > Subject: Why Worcester was chosen for VCF East 1.0 > > > > > > I've gotten some griping about my selection for the > location of the first > > VCF East. > > > > No doubt, a good majority of folks will be quite happy with > the selection. > > This is no accident. The site was chosen based on the > demographics I > > collected. Most of the attendees will be coming from > Massachusetts and > > surrounding areas. > > > > As with any sensible business decision, it was based on what will > > hopefully bring as many attendees to the event, which in > turn means I will > > be able to recoup expenses and will therefore want to continue to do > > Festivals on the east coast. > > > > I received over 150 responses to the VCF East survey. Here > is a summary > > of the results: > > > > This chart shows the number of responses received from each > state, sorted > > by number of attendees in descending order. > > > > State Count > > ----- ----- > > MA 27 > > NY 15 > > PA 12 > > NH 8 > > MD 7 > > OH 5 > > NJ 4 > > FL 4 > > CT 3 > > VT 3 > > GA 3 > > RI 2 > > VA 2 > > NC 2 > > IN 2 > > IL 2 > > MN 2 > > ME 1 > > WV 1 > > MI 1 > > WI 1 > > IA 1 > > MO 1 > > TX 1 > > > > - Nearly 25% of potential attendees will be coming from MA alone > > - 40% of potential attendees will be coming from the New > England area > > - If you include NY, PA and NJ with New England, nearly 70% > will be coming > > from this combined northeast region > > > > There was also a strong desire to keep the event close to the Rhodes > > Island Computer Museum and the Retro-Computing Society of > Rhodes Island so > > that tours to those facilities could be organized. > Providence is only > > about 45 minutes from Worcester. There are also several > other museums > > that I hope to get involved with the event, including the MIT and > > Harvard museums and the Computer Museum in Boston. > > > > Worcester is still within only a few hours of where most of > the potential > > attendees will be coming from. I don't know how you east > coast folks > > perceive distance, but I've lived in California all my life > and a 6-hour > > drive from the San Francisco bay area to the Los Angeles > area is no big > > deal to me. I made the round-trip in one day a couple > weekends ago to > > pick up an old computer. Driving a couple to three hundred > miles should > > not be a major ordeal for most folks. > > > > So there you have it, the reasoning behind the selection of > the location > > for VCF East 1.0. I know it won't please everyone, but the > unhappy folks > > need to realize it has to be held where it makes the most sense. > > > > I really look forward to VCF East, and I hope you easterly > folks do too :) > > > > Sellam Ismail > Vintage Computer > Festival > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------ > ---- > > International Man of Intrigue and Danger > http://www.vintage.org > > > > >

24 years, 1 month

More views on technology

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -- Arthur C. Clark And then there's the other view: Any sufficiently low technology is indistinguishable from hard work. Any sufficiently advanced bureaucracy is indistinguishable from molasses. Any sufficiently advanced card game is indistinguishable from magic. Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo. Any sufficiently complicated technology is indistinguishable from bad karma. Any sufficiently high technology is indistinguishable from doubletalk. No mine stolen from some other computer person. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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