I think there was an entire line of TI minicomputers that were sold off by
TI to HP. I have part of a TI explorer and several TI 1100's and 1500's.
These minicomputers are still used by several HMO's in Kansas City for some
medical billing application. My local computer surplus has 6-7 of them.
There were ASCII TI terminals that went with the system. I seem to remember
that there was a terminal emulation application for the TI-99/4's.
Mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com>
>
>It came to my attention that June 23-24 is the nationwide AARL event
>weekend so I have decided against holding the VCF on that weekend. I'm
>currently looking at the weekend of July 14-15 in Worcester or July
28-29
>in Marlborough.
I'd push myself for Marlborough as its real close, likely the cost for
the hall
is much cheaper too.
Allison
Well, Bruce, I've tried to reply privately to your Tucson message from
my private and office accounts... both bounce with 'host unknown' errmsgs.
I can understand wishing to guard against Colds and Flu, but wearing a
spacesuit 24/7 to accomplish that is a little... dare I use the word...
obsessive?
;}
A shame too, I have contacts in Tucson...
O well...
"I wanted to join Paranoiacs Anonymous, but when I called for info the
guy on the other end asked to know how I got their number, started
screaming about just exactly how I knew they were there, and slammed the
phone down on me. Next day, when I called back, the number was
disconnected."
Chz
John
From: Bill Gunshannon <bill(a)cs.scranton.edu>
>>Your thinking of the Heath H11 which was in fact an LSI-11/02. But it had none DEC hardware peripherals like the console SLU and disk controller.
IT was an LSI-11/03. The 03 card had 4kw or ram on it and
was quad width where the /02 card was dual width and no ram.
>>By the way, they were not the only non-DEC LSI-11 system. The Terak also
was an 11/02 with custom console and disk hardware.
The list of companies that also shipped the base dec hardware repackaged is rather lone and includes Charles River, ISI,
DSD, Tektronix and likely many I missed. DEC sold those boards
(cpu and supporting) as peice parts for the embedded systems
of the day to people that did NC mills, gas analysers, plant controls to name a few. It's part of the reason why PDP-11
Qbus hardware is so common and still in widespread use.
Allison
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Eric Dittman <dittman(a)dittman.net> wrote:
> > Did the 990's go to HP with the Unix systems, or to Siemens or Fujitsu or
> > somebody else, or were they just abandoned?
>
> I don't know where they went, but my guess is they were just
> abandoned.
Pretty much so. They did not go to HP with the S1500. Al Kossow has
what info he has been able to turn up on his Minicomputer Orphanage
web page: <http://www.spies.com/~aek/orphanage.html>.
-Frank McConnell
At 08:20 AM 4/12/01 -0500, you wrote:
>I have still never seen anyone on the list post any info on
>good places in the Chicago area to find computer goodies.
What about the Tampa Bay area.
Any good locations around here?
I'll batch up my replies into one, sorry for the non-attributions....
>What about facilities for those choosing more reasonable means of long
>and short distance transportation, such as train stations and boarding
>stables?
Trains, yes, an Amtrak station, but as others have pointed out, the route
may not be direct. I would suggest calling Amtrak and trying to find out
about direct routes. Other than that, you could go to Boston or Providence,
and most likely get transport to Worcester from there (by bus, most likely,
and it's only about 1hr. from Boston, or 45 min. from Providence by
bus/car)...
>> By the way, do I get any points for suggesting Worcester? :-)
>Yes, as in the points surrounding a bulls-eye painted on you so that
>we can keep score when the pieces of buck-shot, or at least peas from
>pea-shooters, start heading your way for choosing such an annoyingly
>distant location for most people on the east coast - and for
>suggesting that the festival be held on the wrong side of the
>Mason-Dixon line. :-)
HEY! I just suggested it. Sellam chose it! :-) And as I understand it,
it was a very scientific method he used to choose the spot. :-) I never
even dreamed he was thinking of New England until he mentioned Providence,
so I just jumped in. I figured Boston would be WAY too expensive,
especially if Providence was...
Besides "annoyingly distant" is relative -- as your annoyance goes down,
mine goes up :-)
>The plus is the Ararat restaurant on Burncoat Street, which is about the
>only thing I can think ofto go to Worcester for. The Higgins Armoury
>is pretty cool, though.
For eats, Eric's La Pattisserie, Shorah's, The Firehouse Cafe, Aku-Aku (not
great, but close to the venue), and Cafe Dolce (EXCELLENT
coffee/tea/pastries!) come to mind. For entertainment, try these:
EcoTarium, Foothills Theater, Mechanics Hall, and the Worcester Art Museum.
For shopping, the Worcester Common Outlets are right next door to the
Centrum Center (also a decent fast-food food court)
There are many more, but I'm of course biased :-)
I will admit however that Providence's Federal Hill area trounces most
Worcester restaurants, and you might even get a chance to see the resident
criminal^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H mayor Buddy Cianci at one :-)
Rich B.
At 07:13 PM 4/10/01 -0400, THETechnoid wrote:
>I'd like to see some of your lists. I bet some of you would be hard
>pressedd to list your whole collection in a message that the list server
>would accept (too large).
I don't have a lot of machines, but I do focus more on quality than
quantity after all:
- i432 development system
- the original 4004 mask set
- IBM 5100 prototype
- Apple I (qty 6)
- EDSAC 1 (re-wired to run off 120V)
- CRAY-1 (mint; still in shrinkwrap)
- Steve Wozniak (mostly working, but sometimes needs power cycling)
- Zuse Z1 (does anybody here have a copy of the boot disk?)
- Analytical Engine running MSDOS 1.00
My wife is getting kind of pissed about having all this stuff in the
garage, though, so I might start trading this stuff for some calculators or
something smaller.
-----
Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net
I have a large 5 1/4 Grid fdd, mod# 2022 with 2 50 pin (17-16-17) connectors
on the back. It is dated 1982. I also have the cable. Anyone know what
model this beast hooked up to and what this connector is called.
larry
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)look.ca
I wonder if the shrinkwrapped Cray-1 has one of those
shrinkwrap licenses... i.e. "By opening this package
you are agreeing to..." :)
BTW, I wouldn't mind getting my hands on an i432... a
long time ago ('84?) I actually worked on one for a year or
so in an attempt to get it to do something useful. I
had some success, but was continually hampered by
having to run over to another building to use their
VAX as a cross-compiler. Now that I have a VAX sitting
on my desk at home I imagine I could probably do quite
a bit more! It was a unique architecture (quite a
bit ahead of it's time) but hampered by the lack of
provision for I/O (usually handled by a 8086
co-processor board) and the lack of a native OS based
development package.
-al-
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 12:12 PM
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Apple 1's was Re: Collection list (just for phun)
>
>
>
> The likelihood of someone having six Apple 1s is similar to that of
> having an i432 dev system, the original 4004 mask set, an ibm 5100
> proto, an EDSAC1, or a shrinkwrapped Cray-1. Or even possibly Steve
> Wozniak (hopefully in shrinkwrap) etc etc etc.
>
> -Dave McGuire
>
> On April 12, Lawrence Walker wrote:
> > Was this a typo or do you really have 6 Apple 1's.
> >
> > larry
> >
> > > At 07:13 PM 4/10/01 -0400, THETechnoid wrote:
> > > >I'd like to see some of your lists. I bet some of you
> would be hard
> > > >pressedd to list your whole collection in a message that
> the list server
> > > >would accept (too large).
> > >
> > > I don't have a lot of machines, but I do focus more on
> quality than
> > > quantity after all:
> > >
> > > - i432 development system
> > > - the original 4004 mask set
> > > - IBM 5100 prototype
> > > - Apple I (qty 6)
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > - EDSAC 1 (re-wired to run off 120V)
> > > - CRAY-1 (mint; still in shrinkwrap)
> > > - Steve Wozniak (mostly working, but sometimes needs
> power cycling)
> > > - Zuse Z1 (does anybody here have a copy of the boot disk?)
> > > - Analytical Engine running MSDOS 1.00
> > >
> > > My wife is getting kind of pissed about having all this
> stuff in the
> > > garage, though, so I might start trading this stuff for
> some calculators or
> > > something smaller.
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Reply to:
> > lgwalker(a)look.ca
>
I've started messing around with a GRiDPAD 1910 I
got a couple of years ago. Works fine on AC using
the brick that came with it, but the two battery
packs I got with it are dead. They won't take a
charge, either in the machine or connected directly
to the brick (they have a socket for this). The specs
printed on the batteries list 12 volts, 1Ah. I opened
one of the packs and the contents look very much like
10 AA batteries.
I'm wondering if I can replace the contents of the
battery pack with 10 AAs. The specs printed on the AC
brick say it produces 17.25 volts at 2A. If I replace
the contents of the battery pack with 10 AAs, I figure
I'll get around 15 volts. Anybody want to hazard a
guess as to whether this will work?
Thanks,
Bill Sudbrink
Bob,
I don't know how far it is from Chicago but I used to go to the DRMO salvage sale at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio. Its been a while since I have been to one but there used to be some good stuff that used to go through that sale.
Brian.
Brian Roth
Network Services
First Niagara Bank
(716) 625-7500 X2186
Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com
The likelihood of someone having six Apple 1s is similar to that of
having an i432 dev system, the original 4004 mask set, an ibm 5100
proto, an EDSAC1, or a shrinkwrapped Cray-1. Or even possibly Steve
Wozniak (hopefully in shrinkwrap) etc etc etc.
-Dave McGuire
On April 12, Lawrence Walker wrote:
> Was this a typo or do you really have 6 Apple 1's.
>
> larry
>
> > At 07:13 PM 4/10/01 -0400, THETechnoid wrote:
> > >I'd like to see some of your lists. I bet some of you would be hard
> > >pressedd to list your whole collection in a message that the list server
> > >would accept (too large).
> >
> > I don't have a lot of machines, but I do focus more on quality than
> > quantity after all:
> >
> > - i432 development system
> > - the original 4004 mask set
> > - IBM 5100 prototype
> > - Apple I (qty 6)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > - EDSAC 1 (re-wired to run off 120V)
> > - CRAY-1 (mint; still in shrinkwrap)
> > - Steve Wozniak (mostly working, but sometimes needs power cycling)
> > - Zuse Z1 (does anybody here have a copy of the boot disk?)
> > - Analytical Engine running MSDOS 1.00
> >
> > My wife is getting kind of pissed about having all this stuff in the
> > garage, though, so I might start trading this stuff for some calculators or
> > something smaller.
> >
> > -----
> > Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Reply to:
> lgwalker(a)look.ca
Ok, I'm going to close the list for the 1802s for now. Here are the
people I have. If you sent me email about this and I've missed you, let
me know.
Dave McGuire
Alex Knight
Peter Turnbull
Ethan Dicks
Mike Haas
Robert Cobbins
Tony Eros
Mike Cheponis
Chandra Bajpai
Richard A. Cini, Jr.
Jeff Hellige
Richard Schauer
I'll be in touch with each of you individually by email to confirm
that you still want the parts and exchange shipping addresses and so
forth. I think that personal checks will probably be the easiest thing
for me to handle at this point. Some of you have suggested PayPal, and
I'll probably look into that in the future, but if I try to set that up
right now it'll just delay things further. Sorry I'm not real quick
about all this -- I can do real preemptive multitasking, but I've only
got an 8-bit data bus to work with, and I have to keep swapping these
clunky 8K blocks in and out of my 16-bit address space. Besides, I've
got to do all this to the tune of a 1.87 Mhz clock. But I _do_ have a
hardware MUL! That's all to say that I'll get it all done, but it may
take me a while. If any of you have a real good reason to want to get
some chips fast, let me know and I'll push you on the stack last.
JCE
--
Joel Ewy
mailto:ewy@southwind.net
http://www2.southwind.net/~ewy
Ineed it was. It was also about one version behind and
contained many heath specific drivers such as the DX/DY
driver for the floppy. It did run all version of DEC
RT-11 as the floppy had a RX01 compatability mode. The
serial cards were DL compatable and the punch was PC04
compatable.
Allison
------Original Message------
From: Megan <mbg(a)world.std.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Sent: April 12, 2001 12:38:15 PM GMT
Subject: Re: Heath/Zenith stuff
I believe the HT-11 distributed by Heath was a modified version
of RT-11, but standard RT-11 did and does work on the H-11.
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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Ram,
Great ! Let me know when you find it and I'll send you postage and some blank tapes. I should have checked with the list first.
BTW the sun workstations are going out today priority. Thanks for your patience.
Brian.
Hi Brian
I have a copy of it but the problem is I dont know where I put it :-(
Also, I missed a couple of minutes from some of the series (I believe
the last one), but other than that, it is a great series. I am currently
moving
so most of the stuff is boxed up. Once I finish moving, I can make a copy
for
you.
Ram
PS: Still waiting for the SUN :-)
-
Brian Roth
Network Services
First Niagara Bank
(716) 625-7500 X2186
Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com
For those who are griping about the drive, Worcester does have a small
airport. Many commuter shuttles and smaller commercial aircraft fly in and
out on a regular basis. Hotels abound in Worcester as well...
By the way, do I get any points for suggesting Worcester? :-)
Rich B.
Does anyone have a copy or know where to purchase the video series "The machine that changed the world" that was produced by WGBH for Nova? I remember recording it years ago but have since misplaced it. It hasn't been available for purchase for a while as I understand.
Brian.
Brian Roth
Network Services
First Niagara Bank
(716) 625-7500 X2186
Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com
Today I picked up a Hayes Transet 1000, and I don't know anything about
it! It comes in the classic Hayes extruded aluminum case with black
plastic caps on either end. It is one of the older products as it uses
the 13.5vac wall-wart.
The panel at the user end has 8 LED indicators and 3 pushbutton
switches. The indicators are numbered and identified from left to right
as listed below:
1 PWR
2 RDY
3 MRK
4 RPY
5 A
6 B
7 C
8 D
The switches are lettered and identified as follow:
X SELECT
Y MARK
Z REPLAY
At the 'business' end there are three D-sub connectors in assition to
the 3-pin AC power connector. The D-subs are as follow:
15s PORT P1
9p PORT S1
9s PORT S2
Does anyone have any information about this critter - better yet,
documentation - or ever used one?
Thanks!
- don
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:13:54 -0400
> From: THETechnoid(a)home.com
> Subject: Collection list (just for phun)
>
> I'd like to see some of your lists. I bet some of you would be hard
> pressedd to list your whole collection in a message that the
> list server would accept (too large).
Too right - plus I've already listed mine in a Netscape and aIEeeee friendly
way, and I'm working on making it Lynx friendly for Tony :) (BTW Tony, I
*will* post your MicroProfessor!)
It's always fun when you get mentioned in a national Computer paper!
Anyway, its at www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk and as of today I've added an Atari
Lynx (bought only because it had a DOOM cart :o) and a Sinclair Scientific
Calculator with leatherette case, power pack in case and programming
cards......I wasn't chuffed at all! Not bad for 5 english pounds. Other
machines coming soon are an unboxed Camputers Lynx 96, and hopefully a boxed
one if my price is accepted.......they're like buses these things - wait 2
years then 2 come along at once :o)
Happy Easter, people. I'm on holiday next week so I'll sub up from home.
--
Adrian Graham MCSE/ASE/MCP
C CAT Limited
Gubbins: http://www.ccat.co.uk (work)
<http://www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk> (home)
<http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk> (The Online Computer Museum, as featured
in Computer Weekly)
0/0
Hi folks (especially fellow kids) out there,
using your easter holidays to dig through stuff in your parents' basement
can be fun...I ended up yesterday with a long-forgotten Fujitsu FANUC/Siemens
19" unit (in a cardboard box with lotsa connectors, replacement fuses and even
some paperwork for it) which gives me the general impression of once having
been used to control some kind of NC drilling/milling/whatsoever machine. As
I'm not very good at describing stuff, I called a friend and we took some
shots with his digicam. I can't offer them on a homepage like all the others
(haven't got one yet); will it work if I simply send them to the list as an
attachment to one of my posts?
The thing consists of a metal frame with a PSU as the base unit, a keyboard
PCB directly behind the front panel, a bus board (also upright-standing)
behind that, and three PCBs plugging into it from the back side. Two cooling fans
blow into the casing from the left side. The back side of the PSU held a
4.5V memory backup battery that made a gigantic mess by losing some of its
contents while in storage, creating bluish-white crusts on the frame and inside
the cardboard box...Except for one corner of the PSU regulator board, the
electronics were apparently not affected.
There is no front label telling the model or anything (Inside the machine,
there is a metal Siemens type label with the number 321/22113 on it), but I
remember seeing the thing together with a monitor (also 19" form factor)
labeled "SIEMENS Sinumerik ..."; I'm afraid my parents eventually tossed that some
time ago. Why didn't I always care about Vintage Computers the way I do
nowadays...?
The included documentation is:
-A4 "Siemens Sinumerik logbook" (empty)
-A3 "FANUC mate TG Maintenance Drawing" (from 1979, with notes both in
English and Japanese)
-A4 "FANUC Customer's Maintenance Instruction (for ulti-mate TG)"
-A4 "FANUC MATE TG Data sheet"
The last one gives a model (A03B-0402-B001) and a serial number (1883815),
October 1980 as date of manufacture, and Siemens AG as customer.
According to the rule that the processor "always is the big socketed IC", in
this case we deal with an MB8861H, a 40-pin DIL IC in a white ceramic
housing. The schematics call it the MPU (=Main Processing Unit?).
I am looking forward to your replies, especially as I hope to get a hint on
what the system is capable of. Perhaps even enough to persuade my parents
into keeping it and looking for a monitor somewhere...
Arno Kletzander
Arno_1983(a)gmx.de
--
GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet.
http://www.gmx.net
I have been lurking here for a while, thinking about getting into the
field.
None of you seem to be in and around Chicago ??
Anyway, I have a nice start with the computers that I bought when they were
new.
MITS Altair 8800 (early model with the short panel switches) -- this
includes a number of hand-made wire-wrapped gadgets, original box (very
tattered), original MITS invoices, original assembly manuals (for the kit),
and Microsoft's first version of Altair BASIC on paper-tape with the
original manual.
It all worked about 15 years ago.
Fortune Systems 32:16. Fortune attempted to mass-market a 68000-based unix
box. A great machine -- but it was introduced a few months before the the
IBM PC -- which doomed it.
I also have a lot of mac stuff, including an early Mac II; a PowerMac
6100/60, various PCs.
I also have a number of old industrial PLCs -- Modicon, Allen Bradley, GE
Series One.
On April 10, THETechnoid(a)home.com wrote:
> I'd like to see some of your lists. I bet some of you would be hard
> pressedd to list your whole collection in a message that the list server
> would accept (too large).
Hmm. This is from memory, and some of the items here aren't ten
years old yet, while others are still in production use here. This is
simply all of the "older" systems here that I have stuck in my head.
DEC PDP
-------
PDP8/e (two)
PDP8/m
PDP11/03, /05, /23, /24, /34a, /53, /73 (several)
Pro350, 380 (several)
SBC11/21
PDT11/150
MINC-11
DEC VAX
-------
MicroVAX-I
MicroVAX-II (several)
VAXstation-II (several)
MicroVAX-2000 (several)
VAXstation-2000 (several)
MicroVAX-3000 series (several)
MicroVAX 3100
VAXstation 3100 (several, various models)
VAXstation 3540
VAXstation 4000/60, /90
VAX4000-200, -300, -400 (two), -700A
VAX8350
VAX8700
DEC RISC
--------
DECstation 2100, 3100 (several)
DECstation 5000/120, /125, /133 (several)
DECstation 5000/200, /240 (several)
DECsystem 5810
DECsystem 5900
Cray
----
YMP/EL94 (not quite ten years old)
YMP/EL98 (ditto)
Sun
---
Sun 2/120
Sun 3/50 (several)
Sun 3/60 (several)
Sun 3/110, 3/160
Sun 3/260
Sun 4/110 (several), 4/150, 4/260, 4/330, 4/470
Sun 4/630MP, 4/670MP
SPARCstation-1/1+/2
SPARCstation-SLC/ELC
SPARCclassic (several)
SPARCstation-LX (several)
Older SGI
---------
Crimson Jurassic Classic
NeXT
----
NeXT '030 cube
NeXT '040 cube (several)
NeXT '040 turbo cube
NeXTstation
NeXTstation turbo
NeXTstation turbo color (several)
HP
--
HP-85
HP-87XM
HP-71D
HP-75C
HP-75D
HP9000/340
HP9000/715 (several)
HP9000/735 (several)
HP Calculators
--------------
HP10C
HP11C
HP12C (several)
HP25C
HP28C
HP28S
HP29C
HP35
HP45 (several)
HP41C
HP41CV (several)
HP41CX
HP48SX
HP65
HP67 (several)
HP80
HP97 (several)
Micros
------
IMSAI 8080
TRS-80 Model 4
TRS-80 Pocket Computer I
Timex/Sinclair 1000
AT&T
----
UnixPC 7300 (several)
3B1 (several)
3B2/300
SBCs/eval boards
----------------
Intel SDK-85
HP 8085 briefcase trainer
various 8080 trainers
various 6800 trainers
Heathkit ET-3400 6802 trainer (several)
AMD Am2901 eval board
MIPS R3000 eval board
>Wanna provide 2-meter talk in?
I know there are a bunch of good local repeaters... a few are
run by the group at WPI...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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From: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com>
>On April 8, emanuel stiebler wrote:
>> In the beginning of the '80 I was sitting on a VT100 with an
>> additional/optional
>> "selenar graphics board"
>>
>> Anybody out here, ever heard of such beast or has one ?
>>
>> As far as I remember, it had an z80 on it, and was emulating an
>> Tektronix 4010 or something similar.
I dont recall it being 401x anything. It was SIXEL or Regis.
> Now, though, I have two VT100s with the VT125 graphics option
>installed. They're neat!
Best viewed with Barco Color monitor attached.
Allison