test-drb March 2001

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by kebabthesheep＠yahoo.com

> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:45:19 -0500 (EST) > From: "R. D. Davis" <rdd(a)smart.net> > Subject: Sun VME bus boards (was: This is CLASSIC COMPUTERS) > Sorry... I've been hacking some database stuff and Perl all weekend > and I guess it obfuscated my mind a little. > > Speaking of classic computers, is anyone here interested in purchasing > some Sun VME-bus boards? I've got a bunch of them that I'm trying to > sell for someone, and I'd like to free up some of the space that > they're taking up... lots of CG3 boards, various CPUs, etc. While I'd > like to just give these away, I agreed to pay $x dollars apiece for > each one sold or transferred to someone else, so I'd like to at least > cut my loss (as I'll be taking a loss). The agreement that I made also > means that I need to find good homes for them, so I'll only sell them > to those who are truly intereted in using them. I'd certainly be interested in a couple of VME cg3s :) Have you had chance to make a list of what other boards you have? Have you posted/are you going to post this over to sunrescue? (rescue(a)sunhelp.org) you'll get a lot more takers from them :) > But wait, that's not all, I'll provide a chance for a FREE *BONUS* to > all who purchase these; that's right, I'm giving away something for > absolutely nothing! Free arachnids! Disclaimer: Quantity of > arachnids per board may vary; some boards may contain no arachnids; > purchasers responsible for all consequences. ;-) > I take it the arachnids have taken up residence? Dave. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

23 years, 9 months

RZ26L drive

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

>From http://www.alyon.org/InfosTechniques/informatique/drives/digital/all/9312060 02.html RZ26L High Performance, Low Profile 1.05 GB Disk Drive HIGHLIGHTS o New SCSI disk offered in one-inch-high, 3.5 inch form factor o 15 percent price/performance improvement over RZ26 disk o Features new, five year warranty PRODUCT DESCRIPTION To meet the need for follow-on products in the same capacity range as Digital's RZ26 and RZ26B 1.05 Gbyte disk drives, Digital is introducing the RZ26L drive. This one-inch-high, low profile SCSI disk expands the performance and price/megabyte curves of the previous generation of Digital 3.5 inch disks. In addition, its state-of-the-art seek and access times and industry standard spindle speed make it Digital's highest performing 3.5 inch SCSI disk today. The banding technology used provides maximum transfer rates (in the 3.5 inch form factor) of up to 5.5 Mbytes per second. The RZ26L disk comes with a five year warranty (one year of onsite warranty and four years of extended, Return-to-Digital warranty), demonstrating Digital's higher quality standards and enhanced maintainability standards. (See the "Enhanced Storage Warranties Span Up to Five Years" article in this issue.) Note that the RZ26L drive is not a direct substitute for the RZ26 drive in all applications. The RZ26L drive cannot be placed in an existing RZ26 stripe and/or shadow set. However, a new stripe and/or shadow set can be created when all members are RZ26L disk drives. COMPARISON WITH DIGITAL'S OTHER 3.5 INCH DISK DRIVES RZ25L RZ26 RZ26L RZ28 Capacity (MBF) 535 1050 1050 2100 $/MB $1.89 $1.23 $1.05 $1.16 Height 1" 1.6" 1" 1.6" Average Seek Time (ms) 10.5 9.5 9.5 9.5 Average Access Time (ms) 16 15.1 15.1 15.1 RPM 5400 5400 5400 5400 Servo Type Ded Emb Emb Emb Maximum Transfer Rates from Media (Mbytes/sec) 2.9-5.2 3.3 2.7-5.5 2.7-5.5 Maximum Bus Bandwidth (MB) 10 10 10 10 Buffer Size (KB) 240 512 512 1024 AVAILABILITY AND ORDERING You can order the RZ26L drive today, with availability in 30 days or less. Order No. Description RZ26L Disk Drive: RZ26L-EJ 1.05 GB formatted SCSI disk for DEC 3000 Model 400, 400S, 500, 500S, 500X, 600, 600S, 800, and 800S systems; includes mounting hardware; factory or field installed RZ26L-EP 1.05 GB formatted SCSI disk for DEC 3000 Model 300 and 300L systems; includes mounting hardware; factory or field installed RZ26L-EK/EN 1.05 GB formatted SCSI disk for MicroVAX 3100 Model 30, 40, 80, and 90 systems; includes mounting hardware; field installed/factory installed RZ26L-VA 1.05 GB 3.5 inch disk for StorageWorks systems, mounted in single 3.5 inch storage building block with snap-in carrier (RZ26L-VA currently supported in BA350 and BA353 StorageWorks shelves on HSJ40 and HSC K.SCSI controllers, MicroVAX 3100, DEC 3000, DEC 7000, and DEC 10000 systems) 4A-RZ26L-VA Spare for all variations of RZ26L disk drive SOFTWARE SUPPORT The RZ26L drive is supported in OpenVMS VAX V6.0 and OpenVMS AXP V1.5. FUTURE SUPPORT Support for the RZ26L disk is planned for the VAXstation 4000 Models 60 and 90, for DEC 2000 AXP workstations, and for DEC 4000 AXP systems. Future software support is planned for the ULTRIX V4.4 and DEC OSF/1 V1.3 operating systems. SERVICES Digital is supporting the RZ26L drive with a complete range of services, including (but not limited to) onsite hardware service, telephone assistance, installation, and extended warranty programs. DECmailer unit exchange is available through the Customer Returns Center (800-225-5385). __________ OSF/1 is a registered trademark of the Open Software Foundation, Inc. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

23 years, 9 months

Lovely period furniture: VAX 4000-500

by flo＠rdel.co.uk

I've just found a VAX 4000-500 sitting out in the rain at work with a scrap note attached, so I've relocated it to my house. I figure that if I carefully dry it out and remove all those funny bits of plastic and metal from inside, it'll make a lovely bedside cabinet. Heh heh.

23 years, 9 months

storage media

by Scott.Miller＠vandenberg.af.mil

I was thinking about the possibility of building a miniature C-64... you could probably squeeze the whole thing into an FPGA, but the VIC II and SID chips might be a problem. It'd probably be easier to use an off the shelf embedded controler and adapt the VICE emulator. A 2 or 3 inch color LCD would make a nice monitor, but fabricating the miniature keyboard could be difficult. You could always use a cheap membrane-style keyboard, I guess. How about a 1541 disk drive that takes smartmedia cards? Speaking of VICE, in a fit of boredom I set up an AlphaStation with VNC to launch remote C-64 emulation sessions, sort of a C-64 ASP. You just fire up your VNC client, point it at the server, and you get an emulated C-64 with a bunch of old game disks. I haven't had it running since I moved over the summer, but if anyone's interested I can fire it up and publish the address. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Megan [mailto:mbg@world.std.com] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 3:52 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: storage media >"IBM used to send out its salesmen with little 1/24 > models of their Mainframe installations to do site > planning on the desktop first before bringing in the > actual HW. With Moore's Law and the progress of > miniaturization, you could Build a system that big > now that actually works." > >Only with more power. Imagine putting together a little model of, say, the PDP-10 system on the back cover of one of the PDP-10 reference manuals, but build an imbedded x86 machine into the model, with one serial line... run linux on the the embedded machine and Timothy Stark's pdp-10 emulator running TOPS-10... :-) Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

23 years, 9 months

IBM 6150

by Derek.Overton＠sanderson.co.uk

Has anyone experience of getting data off a 6150 using a SCT drive and loading onto Mvbase running on NT ? Derek

23 years, 9 months

pdp 11s to be auctioned at Goddard

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 21, Bill Sudbrink wrote: > For those in the Washington DC area, the 3/29 auction will include > several pdp 11s. Look at: > > http://sales.gsfc.nasa.gov/items.cgi?salenumber=80322620010016 > > I've never been to one of these (I keep wanting to but can never seem > to make the time), but I understand that stuff goes at scrap prices. I've been to several of these. While otherwise wonderful, these auctions have classic "government auction" problems. You'll see, for example, a lot consisting of three pallets of stuff...one will contain a Dynabyte or something like that with ZERO cash value but that you'd really love to get, and the rest of it will consist of 2.5 pallets of dead VGA monitors. During the auction you'll find some guy who bids the lot up to $3,000. Wondering why, you watch him loading it into his truck at the end of the day...and underneath the dead VGA monitors will be one HP 8566B spectrum analyzer or something like that, that he will have ALREADY SOLD on his cell phone for $20,000. The bottom line is this...these types of auctions are great and lots of fun, and people like us can get good stuff cheaply through them. But keep in mind that there are hardened, experienced professionals that show up for every one of these, and make a ton of money doing it. If you get in their way, you will be steamrolled...that's all there is to it. My intention is not to discourage anyone from going and trying...by all means, go! Just watch out for the guys I talk about above...you'll recognize them as soon as you see them start bidding. And if you do go to this one, and happen to see an overweight guy with big bushy brown hair, that's probably me. :) That said, I may try to make it out for that one. There are a few RK07 drives in one lot as well...I love RK07s! :-) -Dave McGuire

23 years, 9 months

10Base5/Thicknet (was Re: SUN networking problems)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 21, 22:31, Mike Ford wrote: > >Is there currently a source for the tap part for the older, boxy transceivers > >that have removable media bits? I remember reading in the O'Reilly Ethernet > >book that it was common to remove the transceiver from the tap and leave the > > Most likely I have it, no matter what that "it" is regarding older network > stuff. Email me directly with, hopefully, an idea of what exactly you need > and I will look in my boxes. > > What I think they are talking about with the tap etc. is that you have the > thick coax, then you have a thing that taps into the coax, and that "thing" > typically has a AUI 15 pin connection with a cable to the AUI on your > computer. Disconnecting the cable is what I think they mean. Not quite. The part with the 15-pin AUI connector is the trasnceiver. The tap is the part of the transceiver that fits to the coax. In some cases, the tap has sockets, and you fit it by cutting the coax, fitting plugs to both cut ends, and plugging them in to the tap. Thats' not very convenient when you want to connect to a network that's in use (the entire segment will be ou of action while you do it and there's a risk of damage to other transceivers as well), so tha alternative is a "vampire" tap. That's a gadget that you fit by drilling a hole in the outer insulation and braid (screen) of the coax, then applying the tap. It has a pn that penetrates to the core conductor, and a part that makes contact only with the braid. Then you fit the rest of the transceiver onto the vampire tap, and fit a drop cable between the AUI connector on the transceiver and the AUI on your machine. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

23 years, 9 months

Lovely period furniture: VAX 4000-500

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 21, Paul Williams wrote: > I've just found a VAX 4000-500 sitting out in the rain at work with a > scrap note attached, so I've relocated it to my house. I figure that if > I carefully dry it out and remove all those funny bits of plastic and > metal from inside, it'll make a lovely bedside cabinet. Heh heh. Good score! The 4000-500 is a *nice* machine. *drool* -Dave McGuire

23 years, 9 months

Speaking of 3380's

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Since everyone is talking about them, I'm going to ask that if anyone has manuals for them, or 3880 controllers, or a 4381 model group 21, that I could really really use them... And if anyone finds a 3380, 3880, or 4381 in a scrapyard or something, I need a full set of panels for each machine, i.e. 3 sets of panels total, I cannot run the system without the panels in place. I also need other miscellanous parts, such as hinges, etc. TIA, Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

23 years, 9 months

classiccmp-digest V1 #547

by jruschme＠mac.com

>From: Tom Owad <owad(a)applefritter.com> >Subject: Re: VCF East > >>> I would ask for the New Jersey Expo Center in Raritan NJ to be considered. >>> It's right off the NJ Turnpike, the only road outsiders consider to >exist in >>> NJ anyways. >> >> Yeah, isn't that amazing? I grew up in NJ, and I go there from time >>to time. I rarely see NJ license plates on the Turnpike. Weird. >> >> I'd also like to see it happen somewhere toward the "middle" of the >>coast. While it's true that the southern states (at least NC, SC, and >>GA) are less densely populated than the Great New England Sprawl, >>there *is* life outside of Boston. >> >> If VCF East is reasonably accessible to the Washington DC area (and >>I'd say NJ counts) you can count on me and at least a half dozen of my >>friends to help out with all the setup stuff. And I'd plan to >>exhibit, as well. > >If its held in NJ/PA I could help out and exhibit, also. The Raritan >center is a nice location. Another NJ option might be the South Jersey Expo Center in Cherry Hill. It's about 30 minutes further south on the NJ Turnpike, but about as accessible (as well as being accessible to I295). Basically, it's over the river from Philadelphia as opposed to the Raritan Center which is basically over the river from NY. <<<John>>>

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