December 2001 - test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Ahh, while another thread is busy eating bandwidth on the subject of terminology...it's a drive, not a drive in a chassis. ;) I'd have to find it first; I just moved. I think I know where it is, though. I'm most desperately in need of cash at the moment, but I can't imagine this drive being worth much. Got anything cool to swap? -Dave On December 31, Chad Fernandez wrote: > Dave is this an external or an internal drive? What would you want for > it? > > Chad Fernandez > Michigan, USA > > Dave McGuire wrote: > > > > On December 29, Chad Fernandez wrote: > > > The other day I found a SCO Open Desktop 2.0.0 media kit, on Qic24 > > > tape. I don't have the correct drive...... I don't have any tape drive > > > experience, actually. > > > > > > Does anybody have an unneeded Qic24 SCSI tape drive? I checked Ebay and > > > I didn't see anything that I thought was what I needed. > > > > This is going back into a very fuzzy memory...but does anyone know if > > an Archive 2150S drive (QIC-150) will read QIC-24 tapes? Those drives > > are pretty common, and they're standard SCSI so they don't require > > less common interface hardware. And, I think I have one. :-) > > > > -Dave > -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Apple 2gs boards, what are they?

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

>The other is from Apple but I don't know what it is. It has a cable >off the back to a 25 pin connector. On the board is "Apple >Computer 820-0153-A" Over one set of chips it says something >about "sandwich II". I don't know any of the chips on it (never was >great at IDing more than a handful of chips). Could post pics if it >would help. This is an Apple High-Speed SCSI card. Allows you to hook up an external SCSI-1 device to the IIgs. A bit finicky (termination power, and some other gotchas), but works mighty nice when you get it all set up right. I believe it will also work on the IIe as well. See Rubywand's faqs (http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/A2FAQs2CONTENT.html in general, and http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/Csa2HDNSCSI.html for SCSI specifically) for more details... If you have no need of it, I can certainly use it in my IIgs... Rich B.

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Make up your mind soon. (was: Help, I will now buy another VAX 6000-420 in Virginia Beach, I can't possibly take that thing ....

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

The VAX 6000-400 is in Portsmouth VA (Virginia Beach area) and for the most part is still up for grabs. The maximum fee I would want is $24.99 to cover my eBay costs. If I take stuff out first, there will be no charge for the rest. If there is real interest I will leave it at a working system, otherwise I may remove things more thorroughly. But make up your mind soon. I know that there are no disks with it, and I will find out more and let you know. If I don't hear a clear committment, there will be another nice VAX going to into the melting oven. If you have never seen a 6000: it's the size of an American fridge, weighs 800 lb (400 kg), sucks 800 W power, needs 3-phase power or at least 220 V (laundry dryer hookup.) I have instructions for a relatively easy power conversion (just make another plug.) It does not (yet) run NetBSD, but Ultrix 4.4 and 4.5 and may be Ultrix 4.2 and higher. VMS of course. regards -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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Amiga Question

by lgwalker＠mts.net

I have an A3000 (as well as a 1000 and 2000) and when I use the sysinfo, it displays that I am using Workbench ver. 37.xxx. What does this refer to as compared to 1.3 and 3.1 ? Lawrence Reply to: lgwalker(a)mts.net

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OT: Older inventory programs for home computers

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/31/2001 4:02:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, jpero(a)sympatico.ca writes: << > From: "Lawrence Walker" <lgwalker(a)mts.net> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:22:27 -0600 > Subject: Re: OT: Older inventory programs for home computers > Reply-to: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Thanks all for the suggestions. > I've decided to go with a spare IBM 8580 I have. They're built like a tank and > could survive the rigors of a machine shop. Also I don't want to part with a >> Can't go wrong with a PS/2! if anything can live in a bad environment, a PS/2 can do it. I'd change the ESDI for SCSI. controller cards and drives are cheap and plentiful. I can help in that respect... The only other machine that would be better is an IML based 386 slc PS/2. Then you'd have builtin SCSI and reference partition instead. --

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NEXT Color Printer find

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 30, 16:03, Louis Schulman wrote: > With all due respect, I disagree. The term "Centronics", whatever its original meaning, refers to a type of > connector. Looking at the Jameco catalog, for example, the catalog pictures 14, 24, 36 and 50 contact > male and female connectors, all referred to as "Centronics". I have never heard the term "blue ribbon" used > to describe these connectors. > > My understanding is that Centronics was the first to use this type of connector on its parallel printers, so > when it became the standard type connector the name stuck. No, Tony is correct. Just because a name is commonly (mis)used in a particular way, doesn't mean it's correct, especially in catalogues. This discussion has come up before in relation to "DB9" connectors etc. A Centronics connector is a specific size, 36pins. The other sizes (14, 20, 24, 50, etc) are NOT Centronics connectors. The 24-way is sometimes referred to as an IEEE-488 connector. Does that make all the other sizes IEEE-488 connectors too? The common misuse is fairly recent, too. 50-pin conectors in that shape have been around for a long time, as SCSI connectors, as telco connectors, and for datacomms. Only in the last 5-8 years have I seen them referred to as Centronics. > BTW, this type of connector, regardless of the number of pins, when made for ribbon cables, is referred to > by Jameco as "IDC Centronics Connector". So they're misusing the term, that's all. If they'd said "Centronics-style" that would be different. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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classiccmp-digest V1 #819

by rdd＠rddavis.org

Quothe Richard Erlacher: [...] > detail. Where the language used in our society is rapidly heading for the > point at which everyone will only be taught a single syllable, leaving > inflections to communicate whatever little meaning there is, I'd suggest we, This reminds me... Did you ever notice that most thesauri appear to be written for people who apparently favor the use of single syllable words? Finding the most appropriate words in such thesauri is often dang near impossible, since most of the synonyms listed are intended for those with a seventh grade, or lower, vocabulary. It makes me wonder all the more about why increasingly larger sums of money are stolen from us by the government for "education." Have a happy new year! Robert -- Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.net 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.net beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

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WTB SGI Indy

by macrecycle＠earthlink.net

Anybody got any good suggestions on where to go to get a nice SGI Indy, just for playing around -- preferably cheap? R. P. Bell ARS KX7Q My friends call me "RB" ================= Mac Recycle Project Recycled Macintosh Computers and Services for Educational or Non-Profit Enterprises Email macrecycle(a)earthlink.net

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Xyplex terminal server

by csmith＠amdocs.com

It just occurred to me that I have had a Xyplex terminal server setting in the closet for a while. :) I have no software for it. It's not "classic," being relatively new, but I intent to use it to hook my Unix PC, Kaypro 2, and perhaps some other things up to my home network, so it's not completely off-topic. Does anyone know where I can find something to run it? I will try to get the model number and post it. Right now all I remember is that it's an 8-port (I think) model in a 1U package. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Nomenclature (was: NEXT Color Printer find

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 31, 11:47, Eric Dittman wrote: > There was a recent thread on the linux-kernel mailing list about > changing all references to KB, MB, etc. to the new standard KiB, > MiB, etc. Some people were for the change, since the new names > are unambiguous, while others think it is kind of ridiculous for > a third-party to change the definitions that have been accepted > for years. I'm in the camp that 1KB of RAM is 1024B, and 1MB of > hard drive is 1024*1024B. That's what they've meant for years, > and the hard drive manufacturers playing with specs and getting > the public thinking 1MB=1000*1024B is not a good reason to change. It's a bit silly, really. 'k' is the SI prefix for 'kilo', meaning 1000, and 'K' was deliberately chosen for 2^10 or 1024 to be distinguishable. Pity about 'MB', though. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Cheap Video cookbooks and machines WTD

by philpem＠bigfoot.com

Hi, I'm trying to get a copy of Don Lancaster's "Cheap Video Cookbook" and "Son of Cheap Video" books, which are now out of print. Anyone got a copy of both books they'd care to scan in and upload somewhere or sell to me? What about the "TV Typewriter" article? I'm also after a Synertek SYM-1 (or SY-VIM-1), a MOS KIM-1 and an AIM-65. Anyone want to sell me one of these machines (or donate one to my computer collection :-)? Thanks. -- Phil. philpem(a)bigfoot.com http://www.philpem.btinternet.co.uk/

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Any AMIGA users?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com [mailto:SUPRDAVE@aol.com] > Decided to pull out my amiga 500 and a PHOENIX hard drive > that fits it. > plugged it all in and the hard drive spins up, but the amiga > still prompts > for a system floppy. can a PC download and create an amiga > system disk? i Short answer: No. ;) Long answer: The amiga floppy format is 880k. The standard peesee drive/controller setup won't do it. You may be in luck if you have a catweasel controller or a compati-card. Otherwise, you can probably write them with a macintosh. You can also possibly do it with some unix machines, or if you have a VAX with 3.5" floppy, or alpha... I was going to try with my sparc IPC, myself. On another note, I have a set of disks that will boot my amiga 1000. Kickstart and OS 1.2 (I think?). I don't know whether OS 1.2 will work on your 500, nor have I any idea whether the OS you get absolutely must be matched to the kickstart version (in ROM on the 500...) I'd be willing to give it a try anyway, though, if you can't find something that's more of a "sure bet." > want to see what this computer is capable of. The only fully working '500 I've seen was very impressive in context. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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WD1003A-SCS board

by jdonogh1＠prodigy.net

Does anybody have a manual with jumper settings for this? It's a Western Digital SCSI-to-MFM board. Can't seem to get it to work. - but the LED stays on dimly(?)

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Anyone have a Rodime RO3065 Drive?

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

Hi, I am looking for a Rodime RO3065 3-1/2" 53Mbyte MFM Harddrive. Anyone have a spare they are willing to part with? Thanks, Ram -- ,,,, /'^'\ ( o o ) -oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------- | Ram Meenakshisundaram | | Senior Software Engineer | | OpenLink Financial Inc | | .oooO Phone: (516) 227-6600 x267 | | ( ) Oooo. Email: rmeenaks(a)olf.com | ---\ (----( )-------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/

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Help, I will now buy another VAX 6000-420 in Virginia Beach, I can't possibly take that thing ....

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Oh my oh my, I just won another VAX 6000-420 for 24 bucks and 99 cents on eBay. Another 6400 in my fleet. I just love these machines. They are handsome decently powerful not oversized, modest in power consumption and noise emission (compared to the 11/780). Very friendly to operate (compared to 11/750, 780 and pretty much everything before. It's so invaluable to have a self test LED at every board so you know exactly whats wrong if things don't work.) Of course these are real machines not PC-lookalikes. But that's what it's all about! :-) But I can never justify to transport that machine from Virginia Beach to Indianapolis and frankly I have no room for it. I hope that Mr. Seller will let me take a virtual peek inside and if theres anything I don't have or that I need, I will take some off. I can still use CPUs (to build my second 6000-460, KFSMA, anything peripheral except CIBCA and DEBNT (have enough of those). BTW, at some point not too far ahead, I will give that second 6000-460 away (if and when I get my 6000-660). Another thing is I will trade a whole setup with 6460, 6520, HSC90, SA600 cabinet, TU81+ and Dataproducts printer and may be add one PDP-8/A as a prize for the one who brings me a nice 11/785 with UNIBUS extension cabinet. In that regard I also trade a TU78 in the style of the 80s against a TU78 with the blue head-panel that fits the 11/780. So, now you know. I've always stuff cooking until I retire >from my hardware ackquisition frenzie. after I have my 11/785 setup. If you live close to Virginia Beach, or you plan on passing by there, let me know. regards, -Gunther PS: also remember, there are a couple of 8650s waiting for a home. I would love to take one but I can't build my whole garage into a computerroom, and I can't run the machine as a furnace (I have gas heat and want to keep it that way :-). But remember, the 8650 are very elegant machines, if you can handle that caliber. Gunther Schadow wrote: > Hi, > > there are 23 minutes to go on an ebay auction > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1313054232 > > for a VAX 6420. I already have 3 such cabinets in my house > and I can impossibly take one let alone the shipping. I will > only have it checked out for parts. It's dirt cheap. I am > always looking for some interesting stuff and this one might > just have some. Most of the heavy and hard to get stuff I > will leave. You should have a running machine. Outbid me now > if you can take the whole machine. > > regards > -Gunther > -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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KWANZA ???

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: gwynp(a)artware.qc.ca [mailto:gwynp@artware.qc.ca] > ObClassicmp : Santa gave me an abacus! While this particular one was > probably manufactured recently, anything this ancient must be > classic :) Me too. :) Mine has what appear to be ceramic beads, and a nice light red-ish (not quite cherry) wood frame. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Connectors (was: NEXT Color Printer find

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

That is correct. -Dave On December 31, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote: > I could have sworn that the regular single-pair telephone connector is > RJ11, and the two-pair/two-line one is RJ14. > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Dave McGuire wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:55:47 -0500 > > From: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> > > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > Subject: Re: Connectors (was: NEXT Color Printer find > > > > On December 30, Chris wrote: > > > >Would they call common network connectors "8 pin RJ-11"? > > > >Or would they call them "8 pin telephone connectors"? > > > > > > Neither, 8 pin RJ's are an RJ-45 (11 is a 4 pin, comes in either standard > > > or handset sizes... can also have just 2 pins for "cheap" cords... 12 is > > > a 6 pin, same physical size as a standard RJ-11) > > > > It's important to note that the RJ designations specify not only the > > connector type, but the pinout. > > > > -Dave > > > > -- > > Dave McGuire > > St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf > > > > -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Try it!!!! (Was - Re: One More PCB Dishwasher Question)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Franchuk [mailto:bfranchuk@jetnet.ab.ca] > While you hear a lot about 'classic' common old CPU's -- apple, radio > shack, > commodore do people find any homebrewed computers did that > all stop when > the S-100 bus came out? Well, I think I may have mentioned this earlier, but my Heath H8 has a wire-wrapped (nearly obviously home-brewed) daughterboard added on to the CPU card. The main CPU used to be 8080, but the daughterboard holds a Z80 and a couple other things. It seems to work. That's the closest thing I've seen. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Any interest in 5.25 floppy drives or small scsi drives?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/29/2001 11:36:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, gehrich(a)tampabay.rr.com writes: << At 10:17 PM 12/29/01 -0500, you wrote: >I've got a number of IBM SCSI drives from 80-200 meg that work just fine as >well as a whole bunch of 5.25 floppy drives from different manufacturers in >both 360k and 1.2m capacities and I hate to just toss the stuff. Anybody have >a need for them? I might be interested in them. What do you have and how much to 34611 Are they blank, used, with/without software? Gene >> To answer this question, I decided to post it. The 100-200m SCSI drives are almost all IBM brand from PS/2 models running OS/2. There are some others laying around that work, but not sure of anything else about them. Everything's used of course. -- Kwanzaa is NOT a real holiday.

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test, ignore

by mnadeau＠editservices.com

Michael Nadeau Editorial Services 603-893-2379

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Ultrix 4.4 and VaxStation 3100

by kees.stravers＠iae.nl

On 2001-12-31 classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org said >> > Did Ultrix 4.4 Run on Vaxstation 3100's... I have here a VAXstation M38 which has Ultrix 4.5 running on it, the last available version. Ultrix only supports the older VAXstations. The SPX card is not supported, but the GPX is, so I'm seeing the GUI on the big monitor. Ultrix 4.5 is not Y2K compatible, but there are fixes. >> > I'd love to have one disk with Ultrix and another with VMS on >> >it. >> So say we all.... From a more-than-casual search of usenet >>archives and the web, I'd have to call Ultrix the Holy Grail of >>Vaxstations. If there is such a creature, and anyone posesses it, >>they neither admit it nor share it. The problem is that Ultrix/VAX is still copyrighted and can not be freely redistributed like Ultrix/PDP can, so sharing Ultrix/VAX is still a problem. >I think the main question is who could get Compaq to release the >license for non-commercial use. This would require both them and >Caldera (who owns the former-AT&T part of the license. Fred van Kempen, who revived the PDP-11 version of Ultrix and got a kind of shareware licence for it, is working on getting Ultrix/VAX licenced this way too, but that will take some time, as it is hard to find the right people who can decide on this matter. You can download the revived Ultrix-11 3.1 from www.tuhs.org, once you agree to the ancient unix licence as explained there. You should subscribe to the tuhs (The Unix Heritage Society) mailing list for news on any developments. Kees -- kees.stravers(a)iae.nl http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/ http://vaxarchive.sevensages.org http://vaxarchive.khubla.com Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Registered

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Apple 2gs boards, what are they?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/30/2001 10:27:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, owad(a)applefritter.com writes: << >There others I'm not sure what they are. The first is labeled as >"Quickie Controller" "Vitesse Inc." "P/N 121489" There is a cable >that goes to one of those round plugs like the the serial and printer >plugs on the IIgs. What's the official name of those connectors? That's the controller card for Vitesse's Quickie Hand Scanner. The connector is a mini Din-8. >> ADB cables, or the same as Svideo?

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Seagate ST32550N vs Quantum XP32150 - which is better?

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

A buddy of mine needs a couple of 2Gb 1" SCSI drives. I have both Quantum XP32150s and ST32550Ns available. Are these drives essentially equivalent, or is one better than the other? -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com

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International Extensions

by vze2mnvr＠verizon.net

All right, I've got one for the international users ... Can anyone fill in or add to any of the international extensions you sometimes see on URL's ? The ones I'm aware of ( but still have some blanks in ) so far are ... .ca - Canada .ch - .cn - .de - Germany .es - Spain .fm - .fr - France .ge - Georgia, former USSR .hk - Hong Kong ??? .is - Iceland .it - Italy .jp - Japan .kr - Korea .nl - Netherlands .nu - .pl - Poland ??? .ru - Rumania ??? .se - Sweden .uk - Great Britain

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Tape drive needed

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 29, Chad Fernandez wrote: > The other day I found a SCO Open Desktop 2.0.0 media kit, on Qic24 > tape. I don't have the correct drive...... I don't have any tape drive > experience, actually. > > Does anybody have an unneeded Qic24 SCSI tape drive? I checked Ebay and > I didn't see anything that I thought was what I needed. This is going back into a very fuzzy memory...but does anyone know if an Archive 2150S drive (QIC-150) will read QIC-24 tapes? Those drives are pretty common, and they're standard SCSI so they don't require less common interface hardware. And, I think I have one. :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Apple 2gs boards, what are they?

by dlw＠trailingedge.com

Picked up some Apple IIgs boards yesterday and I need some help with them. First is a Q-RAM GS memory board. This looks like it has 4 meg on it and the only thing here I'd like to know is what the 2 switches are for and what sizes of simms will it support. Any doc would be helpful. There others I'm not sure what they are. The first is labeled as "Quickie Controller" "Vitesse Inc." "P/N 121489" There is a cable that goes to one of those round plugs like the the serial and printer plugs on the IIgs. What's the official name of those connectors? The other is from Apple but I don't know what it is. It has a cable off the back to a 25 pin connector. On the board is "Apple Computer 820-0153-A" Over one set of chips it says something about "sandwich II". I don't know any of the chips on it (never was great at IDing more than a handful of chips). Could post pics if it would help. Anyone know anything on any of these boards? Thanks. ----- "What is, is what?" "When the mind is free of any thought or judgement, then and only then can we know things as they are." David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

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Seagate MFM drives available

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

I got a bunch of functioning seagate MFM drives available. ST-225,238 and 251 models as well as some big FH models. All survived a LLF too. Controller cables also if you need them. Email if interested.

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NEXT Color Printer find

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I've heard of those too, and was thinking about getting one for some of the >older macs I had, before I decided to get rid of 'em. IIRC they weren't the >most elegant of things, and drivers were a problem. I've used the Asante ones without a hitch for years. No driver problems at all. You just need the Asante driver (last I knew, it was still available on their web site, just burried). The driver hasn't given me any problems up thru OS 7.6.1. I don't know about OS 8+, but any Macs that can use OS 8 have an alternate means in which ethernet can be added. I have used the "Mini" which is the one that needs SCSI Bus power (and so can't work with a Mac Plus), and I have used the "Micro" which is the one that has the HDI-30 connector and is designed for powerbooks. The only problem I have ever had with these is when I dropped one off a desk, it stopped working. Other than that, there was a minor config problem in using one with IPNetRouter, but that was a known issue with IPNR, and IIRC, was actually a problem with IPNR and not with the Asante Driver (they work fine with IPNR, it just needs to be on the local network side, and not the internet side of a dual ethernet firewall/nat setup). I am hoping to lay my hands on a "desktop" version shortly, so I can use one with my Mac Plus (the "desktop" version has an external powersupply and doesn't need the scsi bus power to run the device). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment

by Golemancd＠aol.com

what kind a processors r those that u have u say mips

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Connectors (was: NEXT Color Printer find

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Would they call common network connectors "8 pin RJ-11"? >Or would they call them "8 pin telephone connectors"? Neither, 8 pin RJ's are an RJ-45 (11 is a 4 pin, comes in either standard or handset sizes... can also have just 2 pins for "cheap" cords... 12 is a 6 pin, same physical size as a standard RJ-11) Ok, now you can hit me for being a wise ass ("not in the face, not in the face" -Arthur "The Tick") -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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NEXT Color Printer find

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 30, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > My understanding is that Centronics was the first to use this type of > connector on its parallel printers, so > > when it became the standard type connector the name stuck. > > No, Tony is correct. Just because a name is commonly (mis)used in a > particular way, doesn't mean it's correct, especially in catalogues. This > discussion has come up before in relation to "DB9" connectors etc. A > Centronics connector is a specific size, 36pins. The other sizes (14, 20, > 24, 50, etc) are NOT Centronics connectors. The 24-way is sometimes > referred to as an IEEE-488 connector. Does that make all the other sizes > IEEE-488 connectors too? > > The common misuse is fairly recent, too. 50-pin conectors in that shape > have been around for a long time, as SCSI connectors, as telco connectors, > and for datacomms. Only in the last 5-8 years have I seen them referred to > as Centronics. It has always been my understanding that the proper way to refer to one of these is by the name "amphenol connector". -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Fwd: information

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

Maybe one of you can help this guy out....if so, please reply directly to him. Jeff >Status: U >From: g25wytak(a)aol.com >Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:38:31 EST >Subject: information >To: jhellige(a)earthlink.net > > My name is George, and I have a Sharp >PC-1250A Pocket computer and I am looking for the owner's manual and >the BASIC Programming manual. I am hopeing that you may be able to >help me. > Thank you for your time > > e-mail-----------g25wytak(a)aol.com -- Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File http://www.cchaven.com http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

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NEXT Color Printer find

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 31, 16:47, Richard Erlacher wrote: > EEEEK!!! It's not a "DB-9"!!! Exactly my point :-) And that's pretty much my reaction when I hear people call things Centronics, that clearly aren't. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Asante NetExtender Hub

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 30, 14:01, Zane H. Healy wrote: > I've no idea how on-topic it is, but... This last week I rescued a "Asante > NetExtender Hub" from the trash. In looking at it, it would appear to be a > combination Ethernet Transciever/4-Port 10BaseT Hub (yet it's smaller than > most 10BaseT Trascievers). > > Is it what I think, or is it something different. It's a small 5-port repeater, with one of the ports being AUI. It's meant to extend an existing hub, but it can be used as stand-alone. It's line-powered, too, I think. So you might need to have something plugged into the AUI port (eg a computer with an AUI drop cable). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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International Extensions

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 30, 10:40, Ian Koller wrote: > All right, I've got one for the international users ... > > Can anyone fill in or add to any of the international > extensions you sometimes see on URL's ? The ones I'm > aware of ( but still have some blanks in ) so far are ... .ch is Switzerland, .cn is China. I don't know about .fm. .ru is Russia. .ro is Romania Just look up the ISO 3166 code list, or the list of ccTLDs (country code top level domains): http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Asante NetExtender Hub

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I've no idea how on-topic it is, but... This last week I rescued a "Asante NetExtender Hub" from the trash. In looking at it, it would appear to be a combination Ethernet Transciever/4-Port 10BaseT Hub (yet it's smaller than most 10BaseT Trascievers). Is it what I think, or is it something different. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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What 's a 3Com 3c515 worth these days?

by ken＠seefried.com

> On the other hand, Linux might support the old stuff like > this much better. Linux does indeed have drivers for the 3c515, written by Don Becker (just like almost every other network card driver in Linux). Web page for the driver is at http://www.scyld.com/network/3c515.html. I have never used them. Ken

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CPT 9000

by Westward_Jersey＠msn.com

Hi I have a mint condition CPT 9000 (J-Laser) Circa 1988. It is in original condition with Ventura operating in full screen mode. Any offers ? Westward_Jersey(a)msn.com

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Tonight's S-100 find detailed inventory

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

OK... first of all, let me say that an XOR box weighs a ton. Second, here's what I have - more cards than a single computer needs. I wish I hadn't given away _all_ of my 68K S-100 stuff to a friend years ago (but at least it's in good hands) In the backplane when I got it: o COMPU/TIME UFDC-1 floppy disk controller, c. 1983 Labelled jumpers for drives A-D, each with "5/8", "S0" and "S1" 1 34-pin connector 1 50-pin connector WDC FD1795PL-02 FDC chip no docs o COEX 64K static RAM board, c. 1984 32 Hitachi M58725P 2Kx8 SRAM chips no docs (but jumpers are labelled) o COMPU/TIME SBC-880 CPU board (c) 1980 no CPU chip Loose boards... o QT Computer Systems RAM+65 SRAM board, c. 1981 32 2114 SRAMs (16K total) missing IC49 (near the S-100 fingers, probably a 74LS240 or 74LS244) labelled DIP switches no docs o Vector Graphic 8K SRAM board, c. 1980 64 2102 SRAMs no docs o Seals Electronics SRAM board, (c) 1976 64 2102 SRAMs (8K) no docs o SSM VB1C video card, c. 1980 docs o SSM VB2 video card, c. 1979 chips still under plastic docs o Cromemco TU-ART Digital Interface, c. 1982 2 parallel 2 serial NIB docs o Vector Graphic Bit Streamer serial card 8251 SIO chip no docs o MITS 88 UIO "Universal I/O Card"(?) c. 1977 M6850 AY-5-10134 26-pin Berg-styled connector 10-pin .154"(?)-spacing single-row connector (P-2) no docs o Unknown-brand mystery card (video?), c. 1979 8212 2 x 2708 EPROM (each marked 'FW II Gen', one with down arrow, one up) 4 x 2114-3 SRAMs 6-pin .1"-spacing single-row connector U42 missing (24-pin .6" DIP) no docs o SSM CB1A CPU board, c. 1980 INS8080A 2 x 8212 2 x 2708 (marked "0-3V" and "4.7V") 2 x 2114 docs o SSM 8080 Monitor V1 docs command summary listings So, all in all, a good night's work. I'd love to learn more about what I have, especially the stuff with no docs. Some of the docs I do have, have schematics, but some of it is assembly and rudimentary test/programming instructions. I would appreciate any and all tips to online versions of docs for this stuff. I would also appreciate any tips for getting an OS for the box with its COMPU/TIME cards. I suppose one way would be to receive a 5.25" image, reconstitute it and boot the system off of mini-floppy, then format a disk or two on the 8" floppies and go >from there. -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com

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Digital Rainbow 100+ PC

by ajwotherspoon＠shaw.ca

For Sale or ???: DIGITAL RAINBOW 100+ COMPUTER This early 1980's machine is designed to boot DOS, CP/M and as a DEC Terminal. CPU - Model PC100-B2, Serial #WFC3514 - with dual 5.25" floppy drive and full height hard drive Colour Monitor - Model VR241-A, Serial #Y31-008107 - with video cable Keyboard - Model LK201AA, Serial #B033602238 - with cable [plugs into video cable] Printer - Model LA50-RA, Serial #TC73817A - with printer cable Circuit boards in CPU are as follows: 5416206 5416205-01C1 [PC100-B MOTHER BD] 5415961 5015960-01C1 [PC100B MEMORY EXTENSION] [27 sockets for DRAM; 9 populated with 50256-150 chips] 5415688 5015687-01J1 [No description on board] 5415482 5015481-C1P1 [PC100 RX50 CONTROLLER] [Floppy Drive] 5416019 5016018-A1 [PC100 RD51 CNTLR] [Hard Drive] The hard drive is a Seagate ST-412. No documentation. No diskettes. Includes 3 power cords. In working order (except do not know how to test printer which seems to POST OK). CPU will boot from hard drive into CP/M but not DOS. Plastic cases are quite suntanned (i.e. yellowed) except printer. Pictures of the machine may be viewed at http://members.shaw.ca/ajwotherspoon/rainbow/. Located in Victoria, BC, Canada. Shipping (including cartons), insurance and customs broker (if required) are your choice and cost. Using a bathroom scale the approximate weights are: CPU - 32 lbs. Monitor - 36 lbs. Keyboard - 4 lbs. Printer - 20 lbs. Cables - 4 lbs. Total - 96 lbs. (plus shipping cartons) I have a box that could be used for the printer if packed in Styrofoam peanuts. The hard drive should probably have its heads parked before shipping but I will need instructions/software. This is a collector's item, I am sure, but I have no idea as to its value and I am not a collector. It was purchased new here in Victoria from Computerland about 1983. I found it at a garage sale a few weeks ago. I would hate to see it scrapped but I can't store it much longer! I will not separate any components - it's all or nothing! For my efforts I would like a few dollars in addition to the shipping/insurance but not an outrageous sum. At www.omnicorp.net/dec.htm (in New Jersey) I see the CPU is listed at US$85, the monitor at US$95, the keyboard at US$50 and the printer at US$75 (all tested and guaranteed). I am not looking at anywhere near these prices. For further information or to make an offer please send email. This machine was posted on December 19, 2001 in the comp.sys.dec.micro Newsgroup and I have had one expression of interest so far. Alex

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International Extensions

by Innfogra＠aol.com

.mx is for Mexico Paxton

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Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment

by Golemancd＠aol.com

build a multiprocessor unit that runs bots

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Seagate ST32550N vs Quantum XP32150 - which is better?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 29, Ethan Dicks wrote: > A buddy of mine needs a couple of 2Gb 1" SCSI drives. I have both > Quantum XP32150s and ST32550Ns available. Are these drives essentially > equivalent, or is one better than the other? I can't tell you anything about the XP32150s, but I've set up probably three hundred ST32550Ns and have had very good luck with them. Their write caches ship set to "disabled" by default, though, so it's usually a good idea to stick it on something that'll allow you to edit the contents of Mode Page 6 to turn it on, if my memory is correct. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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VAX 4000-200's on eBay.de

by wilby98＠yahoo.com

On my quest to get more "stuff" of a classic nature I came across these items on eBay in Germany. http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1311492128 Now, I do not speak German and in fact know very little about VAX's in general. But for some reason the notion of having one is appealing. Also, these items are "relatively" close (me being in Holland). Time is running out on these but it looks like they have a minimum acceptable bid. Does that mean that if the bid is not met you can negotiate a price outside of the auction? (I don't know much about eBay either). How do they look to you VAX owners/operators? Bill Amsterdam, NL

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VESA Bus Multi-IO cards

by mythtech＠Mac.com

If anyone is interested, I saw in at the local thrift store 4, what appear to be brand new, Data Technology DTC2278V2 VESA Local Bus Multi IO Cards. They have two serial, 1 parallel, FDC and IDE. I think the price was $10.00 per card (I didn't write down the price in my infinite wisdom, and I saw them about 6 hours ago, so like most of the rest of my day, the info is slipping out of my head... but I think it was $9.99). I don't care about making money off them, so the cards will be actual price (price + 6% NJ tax), plus shipping. Figure they will be about 1 lb when packed, shipping from 07450. If anyone wants me to pick one up, let me know (I remember there was a VESA discussion going on here not too long ago, so I figured some of you might have an interest in one) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Any interest in 5.25 floppy drives or small scsi drives?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

I've got a number of IBM SCSI drives from 80-200 meg that work just fine as well as a whole bunch of 5.25 floppy drives from different manufacturers in both 360k and 1.2m capacities and I hate to just toss the stuff. Anybody have a need for them? --

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Wanted: One Specific Piece of Software

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 29, Sellam Ismail wrote: > > Which aren't what you want. But let me heartily recomend Clipper. > > It compiles 99% of dBase programs and more. The 2 features I really > > liked of Clipper where that it worked like a real compiler (ie, > > compiled to .obj files, linked to .exe. Back in the day I used a 3rd > > party incremental linker which saved much time during compiles) but > > Yes, I used an incremental linker as well ("Blinker" is what it was called > if I'm not mistaken). It made a tremendous difference on a 286 :) I used "tlink" (came with Borland compilers if memory serves) for linking clipper programs. It was a very good linker. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Interactive UNIX set claimed

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

I will contact the earliest respondent off-list. -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com

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Try it!!!! (Was - Re: One More PCB Dishwasher Question)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 29, 12:53, William Donzelli wrote: > I would think the thermal shock of the chips hitting the hot water would > be a failure mechanism. Hot air and hot water are different things, even > at the same temperature. The thermal resistance of a water to ceramic (or > plastic) junction is much, much lower, than one with air, so during the > first seconds of the wash cycle, the chips go from ambient > temperature to something rather high. Lots of stress results, especially > if only some of the chip's package gets wet. Preheating the boards would > help reduce the shock greatly, but home dishwashers do not do that (not a > good idea to cook the food onto the plates before trying to wash them!). Do most American dishwashers start with hot water? Most European ones start with cool water and heat it as they run. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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I bought eBay!

by vcf＠vintage.org

http://www.siconic.com/crap/PC270014.JPG I couldn't resist ;) (For those without the benefit of a GWB, it's a photo of a game I just bought at the toy store called "eBay Electronic-Talking Auction Game" :) Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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