The local Barnes and Noble has one copy of this book:
The Theory and Practice of Modem Design
John A.C. Bingham
Format: Hardcover, 1st ed., 480pp.
ISBN: 0471851086
Publisher: Wiley, John & Sons, Incorporated
Pub. Date: November 1990
It's not cheap ($160) but it looked reasonably meaty and I doubt it's easy
to find. If anyone wants it, let me know.
-- Derek
Well after some searching I find that this monster is a "controller" (I
guess a terminal or network controller).
Anyway I'm taking offers (shipping would be added to the offer unless you
pick up in KY) for it - condition (other than good general external
condition) is unknown, haven't even put a powr cord to it yet.
I was just reminded of when I overclocked an F11 chipset on a
PDP-11/23 (KDF11-A) to 18MHz. It seems to me that it might be
possible to overclock the 78032 on a KA630. Anybody ever done that?
-Dave
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> Chris-
>
> Whew, sorry I forgot about you, with the list
> being down, the depression nuked my recall.
Oops! Sorry, meant to press the "private send"
button... again...
-dq
I am helping to gather original documents and/or artifacts concerning the
Remington Rand 409-series computers for the Remington Rand 409-series
museum being set up in Rowayton, CT. The models of interest are the 409-2
and the 409-2R. These are tube, punch-card, and programming panel machines
>from the 1950s.
We are interested in documenting the location of all surviving artifacts,
but also would like to acquire particularly interesting items by donation
or purchase.
We are looking specifically for anything related to the programming of
these machines, such as the programming panels, programming manuals, or the
programming jumper wires. Photographs or drawings of programming panels
(originals or reproduced in third-party publications), with or without
programs wired on them, also would be of interest.
If you have any of the above, or have more general items such as Remington
Rand brand computer tubes or punch cards, whether or not you wish to sell
or donate them, please e-mail me at:
egendorf(a)mit.edu.
Thanks.
On December 9, Zach Malone wrote:
> > Respectfully suggest, use your kid sister to probe the voltage
> points.
>
> Waiting for the inevitable McGuire "is she cute?".
I try to reserve that for the rescue list...less "offendable" crowd
over there. ;)
-Dave
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Chris-
Whew, sorry I forgot about you, with the list
being down, the depression nuked my recall.
The S&H looks like $5, so $30 will take it.
You can send those government agents with my funds to:
The Estopinal Group
attn: Doug Quebbeman
903 Spring Street
Jeffersonville, IN 47130
Again, sorry about that!
Regards,
-doug q
Same machine, new problem. ^_^
Whilst out in the garage playing with the 44 (which I still don't
have an OS for...), my kid sister and one of her friends come
out to the garage to smoke. (They're not allowed to smoke in the house.)
Anyway, while the 44 is running, her friend says, "Wow, that's loud!",
to which Monica replies "This one's louder!" and turns on the KS10...
You know what's coming. And we had christmas tree packages and such all
over the garage, too, so navigating the garage in the dark was real fun...
(For those who didn't see it coming, the garage breaker went...)
Anyway, after resetting the breaker, waiting for the VAX to reboot,
checking that the KS10 was still in working order (I wouldn't be
mailing if the KS10 was broken. I'd be busy burying my sister. ^_^)
and putting back all the boxes I stepped on or knocked over, it
was discovered that the 11/44 no longer powered on. The power control
lights are on, the RX02 and SCSI disks inside the case work, but
the BA11 (Is that the right part?) will not turn on. When you turn the
switch on the front panel, nothing happens. No click, no fans, nothing.
The breaker on the back of the BA11 did not trip. I turned it off and
back on, nothing happened. I ran the AC power checks in the manual and
nothing happened. I checked the front-panel wiring was still connected,
it was. I pulled and reseated the front-panel control board in the
UNIBUS. Nada. It looks like it should be working, it doesn't smell burnt,
and I opened the top of the BA11 power supply and looked inside, and
it looks really scary (what, with the THIS VOLTAGE WILL KILL YOU stickers
and wires thick as my fingers and whatnot...) but it doesn't look burnt.
Is there a hidden switch or fuse or something in there? That's what it looks
like... Failing that, someone got directions for checking out an 11/44
power supply?
-------
>> There was an optional second processor board that you could install
>> and it became a true dual processor machine. You could switch
>> between the two processors with a hot key. Both processors could be
>> independently compiling, editing, debugging, etc.
>
> Oh now THAT is cool. :-)
>
> Anybody know of any other systems to implement this sort of of
>functionality?
The same concept is used for the Mac's and their PC cards. The Intel chip
is placed on a card, and it runs independant of the mac (but shares some
features like drive controller, stuff like that). You swap between them
with a hot key, and you can have things running on each (ie: start
something heavy on the Mac, swap to windows/dos/whatever OS you are
running, it is a true Intel compatible setup, and run things there.) Swap
between as much as you want, each will continue to run, being blissfully
unaware the other is there. Connection between the two is nice, you can
have shared folders between them. The Mac will view it as a folder, the
PC will view it as an additionally available drive. And you can cut and
paste between the two.
Very nice setup, too bad Apple abondoned them, and stopped upgrading the
driver software, so they don't work too well past System 7.6.1 (they will
work under OS 8 and 9, but some problems can arise)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
On December 9, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> > Anybody know of any other systems to implement this sort of of
> >functionality?
>
> The DEC Rainbow has two different CPU's in it, however, I don't know if you
> can run different stuff on each one at the same time. IIRC, it has a Z80
> and a 8086 so you can run different software (sort of like the
> Commodore 128 running Commodore or CP/M software).
I thought that was an 8088...but as far as I'm aware you can't run
them independently.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL
All,
Well, that was quick. The system is spoken for. Thanks to all for their interest.
Regarding the DEC service CD: in fact, there are 2 CDs. They are full of manuals and service stuff, BUT they cover more recent equipment than the PDP. The last dates on the CD are 1994, which says that there is a lot of VAX-related material on the discs, but not much with regards to PDP. My apologies. Anyway, I already had a couple of requests for them, so I guess I'll be giving the ol'burner a run for its money.
Cheers,
Frederic Charpentier
On December 9, Dave Mabry wrote:
> There was an optional second processor board that you could install
> and it became a true dual processor machine. You could switch
> between the two processors with a hot key. Both processors could be
> independently compiling, editing, debugging, etc.
Oh now THAT is cool. :-)
Anybody know of any other systems to implement this sort of of
functionality?
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL
> Is there a hidden switch or fuse or something in there? That's what it
looks
> like... Failing that, someone got directions for checking out an 11/44
> power supply?
Apples and Oranges, but Primes have an A/C distribution box
in the back that the big round A/C plug goes into... this
whole box removes from the chassis, and when disassembled,
reveals a fuse inside along with something that looks like
an EMI filter. The fuse is replaceable without soldering...
...but this is a Prime, not a PDP-11/44, but I'd look for
something similar...
-dq
Well, after all the talk about a MicroVax II BA123 on the list lately, I
managed to unbury mine. It appears to be all original except for 2 hard
drives that may have been added as an upgrade. All the boards match up
with the DEC sticker with handwritten board numbers. It has the standard
cpu board, what seems to be a 2mb ram board, a serial interface board w/ 8
ports, and the standard scsi and tape interface boards. It also has some
sort of loopback board in the upper 3rd slot. Does anyone have a link to
reference info on these boards? I'd like to find a pair of 8mb ram boards
and a network interface for this thing, so I can put it back in service
for open source software development/testing. I don't know the part
numbers for these boards, so any extra info would be great. I'm also
looking for the door that covers the front control panel, as this machine
seems to have lost its door at some point before I rescued it. If anyone
has any of these parts laying around, please drop me an email. I'm more
then willing to pay shipping. I really don't think I have much of anything
anyone here would want as a trade, so I'm willing to pay for the parts too
if required.
Another interesting tidbit about this box, it still has its inventory
sticker from NASA, and it orig cost good old uncle sam $22,000+. Anyone
else wonder why they didn't have it outfitted with a network interface of
somesort, especially with it costing that much already?
-Toth
On Dec 8, 19:44, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> --- John Lawson <jpl15(a)panix.com> wrote:
> > Aluminium = non-magnetic Iron = magnetic in terms of marginal
> > shielding from external fields.
>
> Do para-magnetic cows go "mu"?
Oh, no, the list has been back up for an hour and already we have bad puns
:-)
Well done, Jay! I saw the archive come back a while ago, and I wondered
when you'd get the list done.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
--- "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> wrote:
> Here's what you need to do to get reliable results from Apple drives:
>
> > And I am probably a good test of real world abuse to the Apple Drive ][
> > drives, as I was just a wee child, and I didn't follow any rules that
> > I probably should have...
My former boss at Software Productions (we wrote kiddie software for home
computers under the Reader's Digest label) put a story in an early
version of the docs of how he fired up his Apple ][ to run CP/M and the
disk drive made odd noises... he took it in for service and the tech
extracted fragments of a Peanut Butter & Jelly sandwich. Seems his kids
were playing games and eating PB&J and decided the computer must be hungry,
too...
It's not just oatmeal in the VCR...
-ethan
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In a message dated 12/8/01 7:23:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,
healyzh(a)aracnet.com writes:
> I just found a working iPDS system, complete
> with documentation and some software. Unfortunately I don't think a lot of
> it is still readable. I did get the system to boot and pass all
> diagnostics.
>
> I know nothing about these beasties, from looking at the doc's it's
> obviously i8085 based with 64k RAM. It's got a single 5 1/4" floppy, and
> it's in a case slightly smaller than a Kaypro II. In the area behind the
> CRT is a storage area for two pods that each handle two different sizes of
> PROMs, these plug into a hole in the right side of the case.
>
Hi Zane;
Nice find.
I just dug out a couple iPDSs out of my storage locker that I am getting
ready for sale. I may be interested in some copies of the documentation. I
also have some disks but have not checked their condition.
You are right that they are 8085 systems. Besides EPROM programmers there was
also an EMV 51 emulator pod for IIRC debugging the 8051. There are also
external floppy disk drives that daisy chain to it.
It also ran CPM. I believe Fred's Xenocopy program will copy diskettes for
it. IIRC they are standard 360K DSDD drives.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
I don't know of a formal (or informal....) classic computer user group in
Houston, but I would love to participate in one.
I know that there are several of us in Houston. I met with David and Mitch
recently; very nice people. David has a real neat collection of older
"personal" computers and some other Unix-class boxen as well.
Obviously there are more of us, an informal gathering would be neat.
- Matt
>Now, to change the subject of this thread, does anyone know of any
>"classic computer" user groups in the Houston area?
>
>-Toth
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On December 8, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> > Aluminium = non-magnetic Iron = magnetic in terms of marginal
> > shielding from external fields.
>
> Do para-magnetic cows go "mu"?
You are a sick, sick man.
-Dave
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St. Petersburg, FL
--- John Lawson <jpl15(a)panix.com> wrote:
> Aluminium = non-magnetic Iron = magnetic in terms of marginal
> shielding from external fields.
Do para-magnetic cows go "mu"?
-ethan
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Does anyone have a Wyse 60 they want to part with on the cheap? (working
only please... I have a dead one thanks)
I tried buying one on ebay a few times, and each time, either they were
in horrible condition, or went above my price threshold, or I got
"ebayed" at the last second by someone outbidding me.
I would prefer one in the NJ area that I can drive and pick up as cost is
my #1 issue, but if total cost (buy + shipping) isn't too bad, I will
accept shipped ones.
I might have stuff to trade, but most everything I have that is available
to be parted with is PC related, which A: isn't as popular here, and B:
isn't as hard to get as other systems. I do have a C64 or two (don't know
functional condition), maybe some other stuff (like these Zebra 2500
manuals I keep tripping on) If you have something in mind, let me know, I
will see if I have it.
Thanks
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
I just recently found a cute little computer
book called
"I can learn about Calculators and Computers"
by Raymond G. Kenyon, Harper & Brothers, 1961
112 pages.
The chapters are entitled:
How Early Man Counted and Computed
The Story of Modern Computers
Construct Your Own Calculators and Computers -
- Oriental Abacus
- John Napier's Bones
- Slide Rules
- "Stepped-Wheel" Calculator
- Digital Computer
- Analog Computer
Materials used consist of wood, wire, D-cell
batteries, flashlight bulbs, potentiometers, etc.
Remember wooden cigar boxes?
Regards,
--Doug
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