test-drb December 2001

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1096 discussions

by Golemancd＠aol.com

thanks for the info i bought an apple 2c at a thrift for 99 cents no adapter. thinking about making one thanks for the info joee

24 years

I've discovered a new pleasure.

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I've discovered a new simple pleasure. Sitting in my storage locker with > a space heater and my IBM Portable Personal Computer (thanks again, Jeff) > programming in BASIC in the middle of the night. Ahhh. *I* could enjoy programming in BASIC on an IBM Portable, too, if I was sitting in a storage unit filled with the kind of goodies you've got in *yours*, Sridhar! With all that iron, ya gotta throw a party sometime soon! -dq

24 years

11/44 power problem... (Oh, not again...)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 9, Daniel A. Seagraves wrote: > [Is she cute?] > > I dunno. She's my sister. She's more of a pain in the ass than anything. ^_^ > http://www.lunar-tokyo.net/pictures/ she's in there somewheres. Hmm, yes, quite cute. You can tell her I said so. :) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

24 years

Smoking around computers

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

That's funny! [Ctrl][D]... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] ! Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:55 PM ! To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' ! Subject: RE: Smoking around computers ! ! ! On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Dave McGuire wrote: ! ! > I'm going to uuencode a fart and email it to you! ! ! Don't bother: ! ! http://www.farts.com/ ! ! Sellam Ismail Vintage ! Computer Festival ! -------------------------------------------------------------- ! ---------------- ! International Man of Intrigue and Danger ! http://www.vintage.org !

24 years

apple 11c power supply

by Golemancd＠aol.com

anyone know what the power supply amps are for the apple 11c i have the pin out and i know it is 15v but how many amps or ma joee

24 years

Smoking around computers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 11, David Woyciesjes wrote: > ! > ! Dave McGuire wrote... > ! > ! And even if that weren't the case...my cat is one of the > ! > ! best friends I've ever had, so if letting her go where she > ! > ! wants means some extra filter cleaning for me, then so be it! > ! > > ! > Aww, isn't that so damned cute! :-P > ! > > ! > --- David A Woyciesjes > ! > ! Hey now.. Ophilia is cute - just ask her and she'll tell ya > ! herself! :-) > > Wait sec there buddy... Never said cats weren't cute (my lil' Isabelle is > the best!) I was just commenting on Dave M. being such a pushover for his > kitties... > :) Yeah, I admit it, she controls me... -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

24 years

Smoking around computers

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! > ! Dave McGuire wrote... ! > ! And even if that weren't the case...my cat is one of the ! > ! best friends I've ever had, so if letting her go where she ! > ! wants means some extra filter cleaning for me, then so be it! ! > ! > Aww, isn't that so damned cute! :-P ! > ! > --- David A Woyciesjes ! ! Hey now.. Ophilia is cute - just ask her and she'll tell ya ! herself! :-) Wait sec there buddy... Never said cats weren't cute (my lil' Isabelle is the best!) I was just commenting on Dave M. being such a pushover for his kitties... :) --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

24 years

Q: "purple"ish" Intel C80287-3 from '83 with gold legs/top

by rhblakeman＠kih.net

Ok while going through the mass of crap I've collected together and finally gotten losse from my storage trailer, I came across an Intel math coprocessor, with gold legs and cap on the "purplish" grey ceramic. On the pin 1 side you can see a thin gold plate (the chip itself I guess) in the index spot and on the opposite end it has a rectangle filled with epoxy. It also has a gold stripe from the center cap to the #1 pin index mark. Is this worth a crap or am I just disillusioned by the enormous amount that the 8080a went for on eBay a few weeks ago?

24 years

Smoking around computers

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> > I wouldn't want anybody smoking near my computers! I've been chain-smoking around computers of various sorts for 20 years, and I've never seen any evidence of smoke-related problems. I prefer that computers don't smoke around me, however ;>) OTOH, audio gear seems to be very susceptible to my smoke, and I have to clean all the switches and pots every three months or so. Glen 0/0

24 years

Q: "purple"ish" Intel C80287-3 from '83 with gold legs/top

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 11, Russ Blakeman wrote: > Ok while going through the mass of crap I've collected together and finally > gotten losse from my storage trailer, I came across an Intel math > coprocessor, with gold legs and cap on the "purplish" grey ceramic. On the > pin 1 side you can see a thin gold plate (the chip itself I guess) in the > index spot and on the opposite end it has a rectangle filled with epoxy. It > also has a gold stripe from the center cap to the #1 pin index mark. > > Is this worth a crap or am I just disillusioned by the enormous amount that > the 8080a went for on eBay a few weeks ago? They're all over the place, man. Sorry. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

24 years

Smoking around computers

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated Tue, 11 Dec 2001 2:17:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, David Woyciesjes <DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu> writes: > ! Hmm, I have a kitty who spends some time in the computer > ! room...there's one particular machine in there that moves a LOT of air > ! and needs its filters cleaned frequently, but aside from that I've had > ! no issues with kitty fur. > ! > ! And even if that weren't the case...my cat is one of the > ! best friends > ! I've ever had, so if letting her go where she wants means some extra > ! filter cleaning for me, then so be it! > > Aww, isn't that so damned cute! :-P > > --- David A Woyciesjes Hey now.. Ophilia is cute - just ask her and she'll tell ya herself! :-)

24 years

Smoking around computers

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! Hmm, I have a kitty who spends some time in the computer ! room...there's one particular machine in there that moves a LOT of air ! and needs its filters cleaned frequently, but aside from that I've had ! no issues with kitty fur. ! ! And even if that weren't the case...my cat is one of the ! best friends ! I've ever had, so if letting her go where she wants means some extra ! filter cleaning for me, then so be it! Aww, isn't that so damned cute! :-P --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

24 years

Smoking around computers

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! > > But, expect cat and dog hair. In particular, expect cat hair in ! > > keyboards; cats take to keyboards like taxi drivers take ! > > to beaded seat ! > > cushions! ! ! On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Chad Fernandez wrote: ! > My cats have always been more intent on distracting me than ! > playing with ! > the computer, or sleep on it. They'll walk on the keyboard ! > while I'm ! > using it, or walk in my line of the monitor, etc. ! > I think what happens with keyboards is that the cat hair ! > settles in it ! > from the air..... cat hair becomes air borne very easily. Since you ! > can't really wipe the hair off from in between the keys.... ! > like you can ! > wipe the hair from the desk, so it just builds up. ! ! I deal with all of the computers for the Berkeley East Bay Humane ! Society. The resident cats in the office all like to sleep ! on keyboards. ! ! I set them up with keyboard drawers whenever I can get them ! cheap, or they ! get donated (hint. HINT!) But training the office staff to shut the ! drawers when not in use isn't easy. Hmmm, spring-loaded drawers? Low-stregth springs, of course. ;-) --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

24 years

testing

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> F...E...D...C...B...A...9...8...7...6...5?..4_..3_..2_..1?.. > > ? E 0040 0000.0045 > ? D 0050 0000.0005 > ? C 0080 0000.4001 > ?? 5 0001 0000.0002 > ?? 1 00C0 0000.7004 > > > b dka2 > > -DKA2 > > bootstrap ..... Deep Thought v31.45 > > And the ANSWER is ............................ > .............................................................. > .............................................................. > .............................................................. > .............................................................. > .............................................................. > .............................................................. > .............................................................. > .............................................................. > 42 ! Feynman lives!

24 years

H89 docs/help requested

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> > The H89 is a little strange. It's really a serial terminal (almost the > same as a H19) and a Z80-based computer in the same box. Yes, they > communicate via an RS232 link between the terminal logic board and the > CPU board. A *little* strange? > So the problem could be in just about any area of the unit. Great! ;>) > I would start by ignoring the computer part for the moment and turning it > back into a terminal. Disconnect the 0.1" header jumper between the > terminal logic PCB and the CPU PCB. Connect one of the serial sockets on > the back (normally connected to the triple serial card plugged into the > CPU board) to the connector on the terminal logic PCB. And then short > pins 2 and 3 on this serial socket. [snip a lot more really expert advice] Tony, thanks a million. I'd really like to get this baby up and running, as it's the only machine I have which uses 5.25" hard-sectored floppies. I'm pretty sure I'll be able to identify the components you mention by eyeballing them (I have no docs) and am looking forward to doing this in the next week or so, but in the meantime, can you answer just one more question for me: How do I open this friggin' box!@!$#&! TIA, Glen 0/0

24 years

testing

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! > > > > KA410-A V1.2 ! > > > > F_..E...D...C...B...A...9...8...7...6...5...4_..3_..2_..1_.. ! > > > ! > > > ?DKA0... ! > > KA410-W V2.3 ! > > ! > > F...E...D...C...B...A...9...8...7...6...5?..4_..3_..2_..1?.. ! > > ! > > ! > > ? E 0040 0000.0045 ! > > ? D 0050 0000.0005 ! > > ? C 0080 0000.4001 ! > > ?? 5 0001 0000.0002 ! > > ?? 1 00C0 0000.7004 ! > > ! > > >>> b dka2 ! > > ! > > ! > > -DKA2 ! > > ! > > >> NetBSD/vax boot [Jul 29 2000 02:31:03] << ! > > >> Press any key to abort autoboot 0 ! > > > boot netbsd ! > > -- ! > ! > ! > **** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 **** ! > 64K RAM SYSTEM 38911 BASIC BYTES FREE ! > ! > READY. Staring Windows 98 ... C:\> @ ECHO OFF Windows Protetion Fault... You didn't pay your fees. Please let the big ape-guys in the front door to collect. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

24 years

Smoking around computers

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! David Woyciesjes wrote: ! > This is where a Keyboard tray comes in very handy! ! Not when they figure they make a great pillow for napping. The still ! will find a way to be the center of attention. ! -- ! Ben Franchuk --- Pre-historic Cpu's -- ! www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html Okay, I meant a keyboard tray that slides under the desk surface, or something like that... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

24 years

HP-Compaq Merger: All But Dead? (Was: RE: Smoking)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I feel the same way Zach, even being an ex-smoker but when someone > ingests/shoots/snorts/etc a substance that makes them a danger to the > general public like it does if a person is stoned or drunk and on the road > with me and my family then I tend to feel like personally tying them to a > stake in front of a firing squad. Agreed. I also feel that way about most proposed corporate mergers. Carly Fiorina is currently tops on the stakeout list... and it would appear that the Packard Foundation has joined with the Hewlett and Packard famlies in opposing the merger. Peter Coffee was talking about it in McNeil-Lehrer last night, and he seems to think the old-time techies who recall HP from their early days, and whom are now enjoying higher positions in many companies, are also actively opposing the merger. The consensus is that the technology what results from the merged firms will run only Windows and use only Intel processors, and that's (wisely) perceived as a negative. When technology abandons diversity, I think I'll abandon technology (unless it's vintage). -dq

24 years

Smoking around computers

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

I must say, with having two cats, I've never had a problem... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Christopher Smith [mailto:csmith@amdocs.com] ! Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:37 AM ! To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' ! Subject: RE: Smoking around computers ! ! ! > -----Original Message----- ! > From: charles hobbs [mailto:chobbs@socal.rr.com] ! ! > Speaking of which, ever open a machine formerly owned by a ! > dog/cat owner? ! ! I have. Being a cat owner, I find that I need to clean my systems of ! cat-hair on a regular basis. ! ! Regards, ! ! Chris ! ! ! Christopher Smith, Perl Developer ! Amdocs - Champaign, IL ! ! /usr/bin/perl -e ' ! print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); ! ' ! !

24 years

Smoking around computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Yeah I know, but GI's have a regular falir for bastardizing about anything > they hear/see. I used to come up with all sorts of "cracks" when I was a > military instructor (course instructor, not drill instructor) at Chanute in > IL until it closed in 93. Heard of RETS in L'ville too, seems there's a > rivalry between students that go to ITT Tech and RETS on who picked the > right school. I worked with all sorts of them at Jabil Services in L'ville > both times I've been out there. yeah, RETS students who insist the ITT Tech students picked the right one... and vice-versa. ;)

24 years

Smoking

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Yeah, > Does it bother you that much if someone else is smoking though? In all > honesty, IMHO people should be allowed to smoke, ingest, or shoot up with > whatever they feel like, as long as they are not harming others. Sure, the > smoke smells horrible, and I dislike being around people who are smoking > (this is also due to the second hand smoke issue), but I have no problem > with it. Agreed... but if they blow smoke in my face, I'm likely to have a "milkshake accident" in their direction (that's where someone tells you a funny while you've got a mouth- full of milkshake, and well, you probably get the idea). -dq

24 years

Free DEC stuff in Milpitas CA

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Hi, I have a friend who may be interested if you're willing to ship some of the stuff. Since you didn't mention shipping, I thought I'd ask. I would be interested in the VMS docsets, myself. Otherwise, unfortunately, I don't know anyone in the area. Thanks, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); ' > -----Original Message----- > From: bob(a)jfcl.com [mailto:bob@jfcl.com] > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:57 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Free DEC stuff in Milpitas CA > > > > I have the following mostly (but not all) DEC stuff to give > away FREE. > All you have to do is pick it up in Milpitas CA (next door to > San Jose). > > * A VAXstation-2000. No disks (you'll need to find an > RD5x/3x for it). > No guarantees of condition, either, but then it is free :-) > > * A VAXstation-3100/30. No disks (but you can use almost any > SCSI drive). > No guarantees of condition, either, but then it is free :-) > > * A Sophia Systems SA-2000 8-bit ICE. This is a self > contained CP/M machine > from the early 80s in a "luggable" case something like the > KayPro or Osborne. > Includes SA-DOS boot diskettes but no pods (it boots and > runs just fine with > out them). > > * A DECmate-II RX50 system (no hard disk) WITHOUT the 6120 > CPU chip. System > unit only - no monitor or keyboard. > > * About half a dozen DEC orange binders (empty). > > * A MicroVMS (VMS v4.x) manual set, in orange binders. > > * Most of an OpenVMS v7.x manual set (perfect bound). > > * A padded, sound proof printer enclosure for a 14" dot > matrix printer, > including a fan. > > I only read this list in digest form, and I'm way behind on that, so > please write to me directly if you're interested in anything. > > Bob >

24 years

Smoking around computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Moth balls work too but you have to be careful holding the > moths down while you get their balls. Gosh, Russ, hadn't heard that one since I was teaching digital at RETS! ;)

24 years

Prints for an 11/70

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! Actually, the earlier the better. I want to do it *old* but *fast*. ! ! Peace... Sridhar Sridhar --- Okay, we know you're missing a missus, but isn't that a little strange? ;) --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

24 years

I've discovered a new pleasure.

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! On December 10, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote: ! > I've discovered a new simple pleasure. Sitting in my ! > storage locker with ! > a space heater and my IBM Portable Personal Computer ! > (thanks again, Jeff) ! > programming in BASIC in the middle of the night. Ahhh. ! ! Uhhhh ! ! Sridhar, you ok man? ! ! -Dave I dunno, Dave. When he picked up that VaxServer3100 from me yesterday, he did have a funny look on his face, right before he went into the pizza shop... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

24 years

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