> On December 11, jpero(a)sympatico.ca wrote:
> > Look to /.
> >
> > This is one whom coined the bug and debugging I think. :-)
>
> If you're talking about the terms, that was Rr. Adm. Grace Hopper.
She coined "debug"; the the use of the word "bug" to denote
a flaw in a design was in common use in Edison's time; some
claim it was coined by early telegraphers.
-dq
! From: Chris [mailto:mythtech@Mac.com]
!
!
! >Ok, I give up -- how do you train a cat? :)
!
! Water spray bottle works wonders. 3 spritz later and one of
! my cats has
! stopped popping the hampster cage open and carrying the
! hampster around
! the house.
!
! Some people say tape works well to keep them off things
! (sticky side up),
! but both my cats seem to rather like it, and I find they stand on it
! padding at the tape purring happily.
They lick the adhesive too?
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
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>>! Some people say tape works well to keep them off things
>>! (sticky side up),
>>! but both my cats seem to rather like it, and I find they stand on it
>>! padding at the tape purring happily.
>
>They lick the adhesive too?
Not that I have ever seen, they just step and press their paws against it
over and over... kind of like when they are pressing down a pillow to
sit, or in the case of one of mine, when he is hungry, he jumps on my
lap, and presses his paws into my sternum over and over until I am
annoyed (or in enough pain as he does it pretty hard), to get up and feed
him.
-c
On December 12, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> I assume these Mentec PDP-11s aren' available at PC prices,
> given they likely aren't produced in PC quantities...
Of course not. But then, they're also not PCs, and they're not
targeted at the desktop game-playing market.
> Any info on the web?
http://www.mentec.com. Nice stuff.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL
I found somebody who has a Model I with some other peripheral things for
sale. He has an X-10 controller, hi-resolution joystick interface, maybe
some other things too. Whoever's interested, email me off-list and I'll give
you his phone number (he's not on the internet).
Thanks,
Owen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com]
> On December 11, Don Maslin wrote:
> > Yeh, probably as easy as training a cat!
> Training cats is actually rather easy. It's commonly thought to be
> difficult or impossible because most people try to train them using
> the same methods they use to train dogs...which fail miserably.
Ok, I give up -- how do you train a cat? :)
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
On December 12, Christopher Smith wrote:
> > Training cats is actually rather easy. It's commonly thought to be
> > difficult or impossible because most people try to train them using
> > the same methods they use to train dogs...which fail miserably.
>
> Ok, I give up -- how do you train a cat? :)
One important thing is not to piss them off. Most dogs seem to
exist to please their owners, and will do pretty much anything for
them. Cats are much less "cheap" about it, for lack fo a better
term...it's much more of a peer-to-peer relationship, but letting them
know who's in control is still important.
One can "dominate" a dog by intimidation, but one generally cannot
with cats. You must have their trust and their respect, otherwise all
is lost.
And yes, the water bottle trick does work, but overuse of that
technique...or use of it before the aforementioned trust and respect
are established...will likely prove counterproductive.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL
On December 11, jpero(a)sympatico.ca wrote:
> Look to /.
>
> This is one whom coined the bug and debugging I think. :-)
If you're talking about the terms, that was Rr. Adm. Grace Hopper.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL
I'm adding the following bounty to my list below:
Xsoft TabWorks (any version though 1.0 is preferred) ($50)
Xsoft is/was a division of Xerox. TabWorks was a tab pallet windows
interface that ran on Windows 3.0. It was sold to Compaq and then to
Citadel.
---
I am putting up the following bounties for these software and manuals:
Adobe After Effects 3.x ($30)
Macromedia Sound Edit 16 1.0 ($30)
Macromedia Final Cut ($30)
Macromedia Freehand 5.0 ($30)
GO PenPoint manual (copyright 1992) ($15)
Also:
MacWeek August 7, 1995 ($5)
I need original copies of each, disks and manuals. If you've got them, or
can find them, the bounty amount is yours (upon receipt and verification,
shipping to be paid by me).
Please reply directly to me: <sellam(a)vintage.org>.
Thanks!
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
! > From: David Woyciesjes <DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu>
! >
! > Speaking of drinking, Tuesdays (tonight!) are when my APA Pool Team
! > plays. We're in first, with only two more matches to go! Then playoffs
! > for
! > the States, then it's off to Vegas after States! Woo-hoo, hopefully!
!
! Hope you make it to Vegas! BTW what level are you? I shot for a few
years
! but never made it beyond a 4. No problem making the shots but post-shot
! cue ball positioning hung me up.
I'm only a skill level 3, after 5 years... :) Was a 4 for a short
time last year. I can't consistently make shots. Sometimes I make the easy
shots and mess up the hard ones; other times I make the hard ones and screw
up the simple shots!
Well we won 4 out of 5 matches last night. Pretty much buttons up
our winning high-points for the session. That's about $200 or so for the
team. Another $300 (I think) after we win the two play-off weeks.
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
--- (203) 432-0953
--- ICQ # - 905818
On December 12, Jeffrey S. Sharp wrote:
> One of the coolest moments in my life was when I met, entirely by chance,
> an old lady at the local hospital that was one of the early Real
> Programmers. She was sharing a double-bed room with my girlfriend's
> grandmother.
>
> I believe she said she had worked with the ENIAC, but I am not certain.
> She said that when she retired, video display terminals were just
> beginning to supplant printing terminals. There was a whole conversation
> in there somewhere, but unfortunately it has been forgotten in the sands
> of time.
>
> Nevertheless, it was a truly spiritual experience.
WOW...I would love to have talked with her for an hour or two. Or
three. Maybe four.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL
On December 10, LFessen106(a)aol.com wrote:
> He is most likely speaking of the SunRescue list. You can find it at
> http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue
> Come and join the fun :-)
I think Bill no longer considers it really Sun-specific, Linc..
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL
Yesterday morning, I drove up into the mountains of
West Virginia and got an ASR-33 and a KSR-33 with a
few spare parts and a five inch stack of docs. I
haven't had the time to do anything with them yet,
probably won't get to play much until Christmas week.
Anyway, the metal on both machines seems to be in
good shape, but the plastic leaves something to be
desired. The ASR is mostly just dirty, but there
is a crack at the left rear screw position. The
KSR is cleaner as it was used less, but it was
stored improperly in a box and dropped or something
and the plastic upper case (the gray case, not the
white/yellow cover over the carriage) is broken into
several pieces. So does anybody have recommendations
as to glue or other solutions? Is someone sitting on
a big stock of spare upper shells?
Thanks,
Bill
On December 11, John R. Keys Jr. wrote:
> Today I spent 8 hours moving stuff from one smaller storage unit to a
> much larger one and found goodies I long forgot about. I have not seen
> the back off this storage unit for almost 3 years. Here's a list of some
> items;
> 1. PET 2001 series 2001-8 in good shape, will take home and test it.
> 2. CBM 2001 series 8 machine has been modified with new keyboard in
> place of tape unit and smaller keys.
> 3. Commodore model C128D in great shape.
> 4. TRS80 model 1
> 5. PolyMorphic System 8813 model 8813/1 with wooden case.
> 6. CPT disk unit 8 ID# 931203
> 7. ADDS Ultimate model 25
> 8. SOROC model IQ120
> 9. Franklin PC8000 in great shape
> There were a lot more plus I still have not finished moving items yet.
> If I was not moving I would get me a heater and play also.
Where ya movin' to, John?
A SOROC IQ120!! Ahh, the memories! :-) If you're lookin' for a home
for that TRS80 model 1, drop me a note.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL
I just saw this on /., the Google USENET archive has been expanded back to
May 12th, 1981! It's a great day for Classic Computing! Looks like the
oldest message in their archive is DEC related since it talks about a Unibus
Versatec interface card.
Zane
> On December 11, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote:
> > > Would 200MHz be fast enough ? A lot of the Xilinx fpga's offer 5ns pin
to pin
> >
> > In a word, no. 8-)
>
> Jeeeeezus Sridhar, how fast did you have in mind?
I assume these Mentec PDP-11s aren' available at PC prices,
given they likely aren't produced in PC quantities...
Any info on the web?
-dq
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Zane H. Healy wrote:
>
> > <sigh> I'm not surprised, I've not had a chance to see what kinds of
PDP-10
> > and PDP-11 stuff can be dug up.
>
> Is anybody thinking what I'm thinking?
>
> "Hello, you posted the following message to USENET about 15 years ago.
> I was wondering if that machine was still available for pickup."
<sigh> I was developing a TAPI/TSPI driver for Rockwell-based chipset
voice modems back in 1994. I *still* get requests for expertise on
the chipset...
-dq
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
> > I set them up with keyboard drawers whenever I can get them cheap, or they
> > get donated (hint. HINT!) But training the office staff to shut the
> > drawers when not in use isn't easy.
>
> Yeh, probably as easy as training a cat!
Training cats is easy; herding them is something else (witness
Jay's efforts to entice us to stay on-topic)!
-dq
> On December 12, Ken Seefried wrote:
> > Perhaps slightly off-topic (other than being a resonably old part), but
> > would anyone around here have a datasheet (or, at least, a pin-out) for an
> > HP HDSP-2490? This is an odd, 4-digit, 5x7 led matrix display. It's in a
> > 28-pin dip, and looks to have some intellegence built in.
> >
> > The answer from HP (nee Agilent) is "long since obsolete, we know
nothing".
>
> Yeah, after all, NOBODY uses displays anymore.
>
> GOD I hate suits.
Hopefully <crossed-fingers emoticon> when the board fires Carly
as they surely will when the merger doesn't happen, they'll get
someone in there who will fire the suits and rehire the people
they let go (engineers, customer service, technicians, etc).
-dq
> Moving to Houston on the 25th of this month (1st trip/load), will take
> about 5 trips using a 24' rental truck to get all the computers and
> stuff down there from MN.
Dude-
Wouldn't United Van Lines be cheaper? They move vintage
computers with the same grace and delicacy that they
move fine crystal or china.
-dq
At 09:50 PM 12/11/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Charles, read your post about the Dimension 4 and Windows XP "error binding
>socket..."
>
>Did you ever find a fix?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bob
>E-mail address - petruska(a)microserve.net
I got an e-mail from Rob Chambers of thinkman,com. He says that Windows XP
and D4 Time both use port 123 udp for SNTP.
He suggested disabling Windows Time Service, but I took the easy way out
and downloaded the NIST time program from:
http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/service/its.htm and it is working OK
with XP.
Cheers
Charlie Fox
Charles E. Fox Video Production
793 Argyle Rd.
Windsor, Ontario, Canada, N8Y3J8
foxvideo(a)wincom.net
Check out the Camcorder Kindergarten at
http://chasfoxvideo.com
Hello Gang,
Here's a user that needs parts and support. I'll
provide the parts, if they find any of what I have
available to be acceptable. You provide the support.
It is not intended to be free. You may quote whatever
price you deem adequate to get them back in business.
All they can do is say no if they don't like it.
Of the SCSI Controllers that I had, all Dilogs have
been sold ( one to Sweden and two to Louisiana ).
What I have left is two Emulex UC07 and an Aviv QSA,
plus any other parts at ...
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2mj6m/web/home.htm
If anybody wants to take this on, email me ASAP.
Bennett
re: Request for purchasing DILOG SCSI controller
Dear Sir,
We have VAXstation 3200 that works with operation
system VAX VMS V5.3.
The system has Tape Driver TK50, which gives possibility
of installation of the different programs.
We have problems with Q-bus SDI disk controller "DILOG 57154D"
that is inserted in VAX3200. This controller is connected with
two devices:
WREN6 SCSI HDD(600Mb) and LD1200 Optical disk drive.
Please inform us if you have for replacement up mentioned
SCSI Host Adapter or it's analog, adequate for our situation
or if you can repair our adapter. Please quote the prices and
give us terms for your service. We ask also to give us detailed
instructions for installation, and if any specialized software
is needed, TK50 compatible cassette with this program.
Looking forward for your reply,
Sincerely,
<snip - contact info witheld until arrangements firmed up>
> The real problem is the patents / intellectual property of DEC
here.
Surely all of these will have expired for the PDP-11/70,
and quite possibly for the entire PDP-11 family.
In fact, the early VAX patents must have expired
too - I recall that MSCP is gone (or at least,
going).
Antonio
Hi. I have the OpenVMS Hobbyist Kit and I can't seem to find the DECnet
Phase IV license PAK. I have both the OS PAK and the layered products
PAK's.
Peace... Sridhar
