Do you (or someone you know) have a pet guinea pig? They were originally
domesticated and raised as food, in Peru. I must say a good barbequed cuy
(which is what they are called there) is quite tasty, though not much meat
on them.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:24 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: Cats around computers
On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> > > Rodents *are* chewy... have you never had squirrel?
> >
> > NO. And I hope I NEVER get that hungry.
>
> Hey, it's not like I was playing Hannibal Lector to
> old Rocket J. himself...
Yes, but still...NOT FOOD. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL
> > I've seen the brown recluse in my home, among several
> > other species. Can't always tell which is which but I
> > can tell that some are different from others.
>
> The brown recluse has a very clear fiddle mark on their body. You can't
> mistake them for anything else. I've found them in camp showers (eeek).
> They are unpleasantly fond of human company.
I'll bet you're presbyotic (far-sighted) or have perfect vision,
and aren't near-sighted... that or you wear contacts or always
wear your glasses.... anything further away than a monitor
screen is *usually* a complete blue for me.
Plus, isn't the fiddle on their stomach? Should I ask the spider
to "present, front and center" so i can check?
;)
> The wolf spider is frequently mistaken for a brown recluse even though
> they're grey, not brown; they're considerably larger; and they definitely
> don't have the fiddle marking. This is unfortunate since people take
> shoes and other implements to wolf spiders who are good to have in the
> house as they keep insects down to a minimum, and don't bother people.
The wolfs are probably what I've got, then...
-dq
On December 13, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote:
> > >> > I'll bet you're presbyotic (far-sighted)
> > >>
> > >> Nit pick time. I think you mean presbyopic. presbyotic would be
> > >> someone who can only hear things far away.
>
> Actually, neither of you are right. Presbyopia is not being able to see
> near or far due to lack of accomodative ability caused by age.
> Farsightedness is hyperopia.
...and Sridharopia is the desire to hack on a 1GHz PDP11 in a
storage locker with an electric heater using an old DOS box as a
terminal! :-)
There, that was at least *closer* to being on-topic!
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL
On December 13, Jeff Hellige wrote:
> The unfortunate thing about the brown recluse is that you
> likely won't see it before it bites you and the insides of equipment
> that has been out in a shed or something similar is a good place for
> them. I'm no longer sure what areas they're common in, but the Ozark
> mountains of southern Missouri has their share of them.
I found two in my basement in Laurel MD, Jeff...
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL
> > I'll bet you're presbyotic (far-sighted)
>
> Nit pick time. I think you mean presbyopic. presbyotic would be
> someone who can only hear things far away.
I had not a *clue* how to spell it... how funny that the
mispelling turned out to be something!
> > Plus, isn't the fiddle on their stomach? Should I ask the spider
> > to "present, front and center" so i can check?
>
> Definitely on the back, hence the common name fiddleback spider.
hadn't heard that name might explain why I was able to see
them when I was younger tho... but I saw all kinds of things
in those "paisley days"....
On December 13, Roger Merchberger wrote:
> And yes, cow's tongue is very good also, when prepared correctly, but I
> never did acquire a taste for the pickled pork hocks... I don't "pretend"
> what I like, because I like most everything.
Well this is very cool...my sense of "gross" is a little
oversensitive I think; I know a few people who don't have any at
all...I must admit I'm somewhat jealous of them.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey H. Ingber [mailto:jhingber@ix.netcom.com]
> I have a similar machine which I would call identical except for the
> green-screen. All the "prototype" markings that the auction makes
> mention of I have seen seen on my Lisa, as well as the only other one
> I've seen. I believe these markings to be common, and that the screen
> was a replacement job by a 3rd party. Is this guy
> misinformed or am I?
Well, I don't know whether they actually implied that the machine was a
prototype... Just mentioned the markings as making it "unique." (a very
slight distinction, anyway)
You're right that they (the markings on the boards) might be common, though
I certainly haven't seen any Lisas with green CRTs, myself.
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk]
> > > just off the center of the top of the cassette, and they have
> > > two slide
> > > tabs to turn write-protection on/off. Otherwise, it
> looks just like a
> > > regular analog cassette tape.
> > No problem, just file a notch in your "analog" cassette. ;)
> Is your data really worth that _little_ that it's not worth
> buying the
> right tape?
Well, any data I'd consider storing on such a strange,
you-probably-won't-see-another, device would have to be worth very little,
or, more likely, backed up onto CD, DAT, or 8MM. :)
That, and where do you suggest one should get "digital cassette" these days?
> > I'm not sure that would work, but given the improved
> resolution, etc, in
> > cassette tapes during the last several years, it just may.
> I am pretty sure the coercivity of the tape in the 'digital'
> cassettes is
> considerably high that that of the tape in normal audio cassettes...
Well, again, cassettes have gotten better. Depending on the age of this
"digital cassette" technology, it might substitute in a pinch.
Speaking of which, anyone remember anything about the VHS tape backup
devices? Capacity, systems they'd work with, etc? A friend and I were
discussing these a few days ago.
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> Maybe, but doubtful. This was more of a tape backup device. It uses
> DIGITAL cassettes. If you've never seen one, they have a square notch
> just off the center of the top of the cassette, and they have two slide
> tabs to turn write-protection on/off. Otherwise, it looks just like a
> regular analog cassette tape.
Yeah, I've got a drive from an old Burroughs teller machine...
Had a bunch of Burroughs stuff I dumped about five years
ago, though I still have a direct-wire 1200 baud modem...
-dq
On Dec 13, 9:26, Mark Crispin wrote:
> Unique? Quite a few processors of that time had a store-PC-and-jump type
of
> subroutine call. The beloved PDP-10 had three (JSR, JSP, JSA/JRA) and
> subsequent enhancements added more (JSYS, XPCW); yet it also had stacks
from
> its inception.
>
> Contemporary programming languages, such as BASIC and FORTRAN, did not
use
> stack subroutines. It's possible that modern BASIC and FORTRAN compilers
may
> permit recursive subroutine calls, but doing so is still prohibited by
the
> language specification. Now you know why.
That's not wholly true; FORTRAN prior to FORTRAN-90 prohibits recursion but
it's a required feature in FORTRAN 90. I don't believe it's actually
prohibited in BASIC of the mid-to-late 60's. There were certainly
inplementations in the early 70s that allowed it, and it's a feature of the
modern standards (both de-facto and ANSI). Recursion was also a (required)
feature of ALGOL in 1958, and its successors, as was stack-based
evaluation.
However, in support of Mark, it's worth noting that the main reason there's
no recursion allowed in FORTRAN, and it almost was omitted from the
original ALGOL spec, was that it was hard for people to understand how it
could be implemented across a variety of architectures. Stacks had been
around since the mid-50s but lots of machines provided no specific support
for them.
--
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Network Manager
University of York
> > I bought a CGA-compatible video cards a few years back
> > (80s), that had an incompatible hi-res mode in addition
> > to the CGA, and a mouse interface.
> >
> > The manual kept referring to "the connector of the ten ways".
> > This sounded *SO* Zen that I was sure than once I had it
> > figured it, it'd be the secret to life.
> >
> > Finally dawned on me that this was "10-pin connector".
>
> In the UK (I have no idea if the expression is used in the States), the
> term n-way connector is common. It means (of course) an connector with n
> indepedant connections. It's often used for things like jack plugs ('phone
> plugs' in the States) which don't really have pins. Calling the plug on
> the end of a pair of stereo headphones a '3 pin plug' seems strange...
Of course, we've some of the same linguistic heritage; but here,
that usage's most frequent occurance is in a phrase relating to
ways that deviate from each other, i.e. a four-way stop. The
four ways all go away from each other.
A cable with connectors like that might not be very useful
(of course, as soon as I say that I envision an old-style
RGB video cable with BNCs each "going their own way."
-dq
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
>
> > This is unfortunate since people take shoes and other implements to
> > wolf spiders who are good to have in the house as they keep insects
> > down to a minimum, and don't bother people.
>
> Anything in my house with more than four legs dies. It's as simple as
> that.
So, the beast with two backs never makes itself seen in
your home?
;)
-dq
> On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> > My Zoology prof claimed to have eaten just about
> > eberything on the planet that people make a regular
> > habit of eating... grubs were the first thing he
> > mentioned.
>
> Fear.
>
> I will never understand the "I am cool because I eat, and pretend to
> like, things that gross most people out" mentality.
Well, although he was a zoologist, I'd agree it's a stretch
(wants to know about animals so eats them), but for all I
know, he may have wanted to be an anthropologist. It would
be quite appropriate and understandable for one o' them
to want to give everything a try...
He had cancer back in those days, beat it, but I've
no idea whether he's still around or not. We never,
ever saw him down in the computer center, even though
we had some applications we support for the biology
department (bringing us back to classic computers).
If he ever took to computers, they'd probably have
been Macintoshes...
-dq
> On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> > > > > > Rodents *are* chewy... have you never had squirrel?
> > > > >
> > > > > NO. And I hope I NEVER get that hungry.
> > > >
> > > > Hey, it's not like I was playing Hannibal Lector to
> > > > old Rocket J. himself...
> > >
> > > Yes, but still...NOT FOOD. ;)
> >
> > Ok, Ok, you're right, you *won't* find it on the menu
> > down at Mickey D's... or Hardups... or Snake n Shake...
> > or Food Lion...
>
> Yes. But I maintain that squirrels are NOT FOOD not because you
> won't find them in Food Lion...but you won't find them in Food Lion
> because they're NOT FOOD. :)
>
> > BTW, now that you're _down south_, has anyone turned
> > you onto the burgers at Crystal's ?
>
> I don't believe I've had them yet, no...are they good?
>
They're sometimes known as "southern sliders"... when you
see them, you'll know why...
And re: squirrels, lemme tell ya, I wouldn't be alive
if they *weren't* food... there were times when squirrel
wasn't the usual delicacy, but the only damned thing my
ancestors could find to eat.
-dq
On December 13, Jeffrey S. Sharp wrote:
> > This is unfortunate since people take shoes and other implements to
> > wolf spiders who are good to have in the house as they keep insects
> > down to a minimum, and don't bother people.
>
> Anything in my house with more than four legs dies. It's as simple as
> that.
I with you there, Jeff.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL
Hi again. I've checked CRVAX server but I can't locate what
I'm searching... Anybody knows a place where could be located
the INFO-VAX mailing list messages previous to 17-May-1981 ?
This is the date of the first message gatewayed to the Fa.info-vax
newsgroup. If I read correctly the info that appears in
http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue3_8/chapter10/ ,
Usenet began in 1979, and the FA.* groups were gatewayed
>from mailing lists to the Usenet newsgroups by the long time closed
(1994 if the RIP note of one person that I assume was Keith Bostic
was correct) UCBVAX server. Do you heard about some kind
of backup or so of these early Usenet and/or mailing lists messages ?
By the way, a little swinging in the messages of these years is,
like Spock could say without any doubt, "fascinating".
By example, one reference to one Datamation of 1981 that
did a critic about the Unix interface :-)
,,, or one guy that tried in 1981 to do one list of DBMS for Unix.
I don't know if somebody knows cause of direct participation
some of these hits.
Thanks and Greetings
Sergio
On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> > > > > Rodents *are* chewy... have you never had squirrel?
> > > >
> > > > NO. And I hope I NEVER get that hungry.
> > >
> > > Hey, it's not like I was playing Hannibal Lector to
> > > old Rocket J. himself...
> >
> > Yes, but still...NOT FOOD. ;)
>
> Ok, Ok, you're right, you *won't* find it on the menu
> down at Mickey D's... or Hardups... or Snake n Shake...
> or Food Lion...
Yes. But I maintain that squirrels are NOT FOOD not because you
won't find them in Food Lion...but you won't find them in Food Lion
because they're NOT FOOD. :)
> BTW, now that you're _down south_, has anyone turned
> you onto the burgers at Crystal's ?
I don't believe I've had them yet, no...are they good?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL
> > Yes, but still...NOT FOOD. ;)
> >
>
> Anyone watch FoodTV? I think the show was called Xtreme Food.. One section
> showed the guys hunting in their backyard.. Shooting some squirrel.. And how
> to cook it... It was called "Squirrel Fricasse" This really was on TV..
> HONEST! I think this was in Louisana...
My Zoology prof claimed to have eaten just about
eberything on the planet that people make a regular
habit of eating... grubs were the first thing he
mentioned.
> But what looked good was the deep-fried wild turkey.
Dunno about wild, but Bob&Tom's domestic deep-fry
recipie is a big winner around here...
> P.S. I wonder what kind of wine goes good with squirrel? A
> couple of bottles before it is set down in front of you??!
Oh, Ripple, Richard's, MD2020 if you need Kosher...
-dq
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com]
> Maybe, but doubtful. This was more of a tape backup device. It uses
> DIGITAL cassettes. If you've never seen one, they have a square notch
> just off the center of the top of the cassette, and they have
> two slide
> tabs to turn write-protection on/off. Otherwise, it looks just like a
> regular analog cassette tape.
No problem, just file a notch in your "analog" cassette. ;)
I'm not sure that would work, but given the improved resolution, etc, in
cassette tapes during the last several years, it just may.
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> On December 12, Richard Erlacher wrote:
> > If it topped out at 7 MBps, it was probably because the bus handshake was
> > clocked with a CPU clock, in order to ensure the CPU would "see" the
> > transitions.
>
> I am reminded of my favorite piece of broken english, found in a
> Taiwanese PeeCee motherboard manual many years ago:
>
> "If use 387 coprocessor, the clocked by CPU clock."
>
> No, I made no typos there. :-)
I bought a CGA-compatible video cards a few years back
(80s), that had an incompatible hi-res mode in addition
to the CGA, and a mouse interface.
The manual kept referring to "the connector of the ten ways".
This sounded *SO* Zen that I was sure than once I had it
figured it, it'd be the secret to life.
Finally dawned on me that this was "10-pin connector".
-dq
Hello. A short note to thanks the help about Google Usenet Groups.
I probed the &Filter=0 and works :-)
I want to begin a project with a large projection in time. I want to
translate
to spanish language all the historical and classic computer documents
I can. I should like to begin with articles, files and documents of
relevance
about the Internet, but I am thinking in mirror some classic computers
websites translating them to my idiom. I don't know if anybody could be
interested about it and permit to do the mirror and translation.
Thanks and Greetings
Sergio
> On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> > > > Rodents *are* chewy... have you never had squirrel?
> > >
> > > NO. And I hope I NEVER get that hungry.
> >
> > Hey, it's not like I was playing Hannibal Lector to
> > old Rocket J. himself...
>
> Yes, but still...NOT FOOD. ;)
Ok, Ok, you're right, you *won't* find it on the menu
down at Mickey D's... or Hardups... or Snake n Shake...
or Food Lion...
BTW, now that you're _down south_, has anyone turned
you onto the burgers at Crystal's ?
-dq
! >>! Some people say tape works well to keep them off things
! >>! (sticky side up), but both my cats seem to rather like
! >>! it, and I find they stand on it
! >>! padding at the tape purring happily.
! >
! >They lick the adhesive too?
!
! Not that I have ever seen, they just step and press their
! paws against it
! over and over... kind of like when they are pressing down a pillow to
! sit, or in the case of one of mine, when he is hungry, he jumps on my
! lap, and presses his paws into my sternum over and over until I am
! annoyed (or in enough pain as he does it pretty hard), to get
! up and feed
! him.
Well, my 3 1/2 year old cat, Isabelle, like to like tape and pictures. Never
figured that one out yet...
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On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> > > Rodents *are* chewy... have you never had squirrel?
> >
> > NO. And I hope I NEVER get that hungry.
>
> Hey, it's not like I was playing Hannibal Lector to
> old Rocket J. himself...
Yes, but still...NOT FOOD. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL
> >You're right that they (the markings on the boards) might be common, though
> >I certainly haven't seen any Lisas with green CRTs, myself.
>
> Now, I've never tried to replace the CRT in something like a
> Lisa or other single piece machine, but I wouldn't think that the CRT
> would be that difficult to replace? For companies like Zenith that
> actually manufactured CRT's, I could see there possibly be a problem
> with swapping it out for a different one though but I know that Apple
> didn't manufacture the CRT's in the Lisa.
Difficult you mean in terms of finding a replacement, I assume...
it *is* fairly easy to replace on in a Mac, procedure-wise,
but I had a boxed new Apple replacement to drop in...
-dq