test-drb December 2001

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by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Carlos Murillo wrote: > > Aztecs bred a special dog race, called "izcuintle", for > > culinary purposes. They're pretty ugly as they are > > hairless. But they're supposed to taste like pork. > > They also ate people too, that tastes like pork too. "Long Pork" ;)

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OT: RE: Cats around computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> At 02:10 PM 12/13/01 -0700, Robert Feldman wrote: > >Do you (or someone you know) have a pet guinea pig? They were originally > >domesticated and raised as food, in Peru. I must say a good barbequed cuy > >(which is what they are called there) is quite tasty, though not much meat > >on them. > > Aztecs bred a special dog race, called "izcuintle", for > culinary purposes. They're pretty ugly as they are > hairless. But they're supposed to taste like pork. Don't know the breeds, but you can add the Koreans, Chinese, and Philipinos to the dig-comsumer list... Monkey is popular in the latter two as well... -dq

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What's with this Lisa?

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> >Model: A6S0300 > >Memory Option: A6S0304 > >SN: A3322146 > >Manufactured: 3322 > > Mine is the same model# with a date code of 3248. You said > you bought the machine as a plain '2' and upgraded it to a 2/5? Yep. The vanilla 2 was a 512kb machine with the 400K floppy, which is why it was pretty useless, the 2/5 has the profile but still half a meg so it won't run some of the 7/7 apps so I got the extra ET card from ebay. Took me nearly a year to get a complete spares kit :) The 2/10 was completely different...... I'm not entirely sure whether the extra IO board I got is from a Lisa 1 since it doesn't have capacity for the battery pack. There's pix on my museum site if anyone wants to check for me! > I've not checked for the 'proto' marking mentioned on one of > the connectors, but I know it's on the front panel. I've got four > memory cards here, one of which still had it's price sticker of > $1495.00 marked down to $995. One of the ones not installed also > ahas the ET marking. Is there an Apple brand on there as well? I'm assuming ET might be the manufacturer..... cheers -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

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Need manual for Everex digital cassette drive

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > > Maybe, but doubtful. This was more of a tape backup device. It uses > > > DIGITAL cassettes. If you've never seen one, they have a square notch > > > just off the center of the top of the cassette, and they have two slide > > > tabs to turn write-protection on/off. Otherwise, it looks just like a > > > regular analog cassette tape. > > > > Yeah, I've got a drive from an old Burroughs teller machine... > > > > Had a bunch of Burroughs stuff I dumped about five years > > ago, though I still have a direct-wire 1200 baud modem... > > I have a complete (almost working) Burroughs computer. For a long time, I kept a cage that contained a card rack and a fixed-head disk drive. It would power up, and make characteristic "booting" sounds. I just wasn't interested in computers much during that late 80s/early 90s when everything started to go Microsoft... -dq

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Cats around computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > > BTW, now that you're _down south_, has anyone turned > > > > you onto the burgers at Crystal's ? > > > > > > I don't believe I've had them yet, no...are they good? > > > > They're sometimes known as "southern sliders"... when you > > see them, you'll know why... > > I will try some. :-) > > > And re: squirrels, lemme tell ya, I wouldn't be alive > > if they *weren't* food... there were times when squirrel > > wasn't the usual delicacy, but the only damned thing my > > ancestors could find to eat. > > Oh yes, my ancestors too...but as long as it was THEM and not ME! ;) Ok, Ok, I've never been accused of being civilized... ;)

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What's with this Lisa?

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

Hi all, > >I always wondered why the 2 existed in the first place, > since without a hard > >drive and only .5mb of memory it was useless for anything other than > >MacWorks. > > Once you take a look at your's, since you said it started > life as a '2' and you upgraded it to a 2/5, would you mind sending > me the model/serial/date numbers off of it? Here's the scoop: Model: A6S0300 Memory Option: A6S0304 SN: A3322146 Manufactured: 3322 Unfortunately there's no prototype info, but both of my memory modules are dated 1982 and one of them has the 'fabled' ET logo....... cheers -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

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USENET from 1981 to present on google

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> My first post seems to be from 1996/10/08. I am, quite simply, not > worthy. Me too. </aol>. My first post was an ultrix problem on 6th Oct '95; not bad I suppose, only 4 years after TBL's first announcement of that there web. Mmmm text only sigs :) -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

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Cats around computers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 14, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote: > > Oh yes, I agree 100% that it's all just a matter of what we're > > culturally used to...but that knowlege will not stop the huge tide of > > spewing vomit that will ensue if someone puts brains in front of my > > face. > > Still doesn't stop you from waving your pit beef sandwich in mine. 8-) Deep down, you like beef, Sridhar. You're just in denial. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Pinouts for Vaxstation 3100 monochrome cable?

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Hi, all. I have a vaxstation 3100 m38 running NetBSD, and I'd like to be able to use the local monochrome display. I've removed the SPX color adapter, and made up a cable according to the pinouts on Kee's VS3100 page. His pinouts are composite on pin 9 and ground on 3 for a BC23K-03 cable. However, with the cobbled cable attached, I don't get any output. Question 1: Did I miss a jumper on the mainboard? Question 2: I assumed that the pins were numbered in the same order as an AUI ethernet connector. Looking at the female, I have 1-8 right-to-left, and 9-15 R-t-L. Is this correct? Question 3: I'm using an IBM Power17 display. Multisync, separate-sync, composite-sync and sync-on-green capable, I would think it would work with mono input on the green. It does work fine with the SPX adapter. Question 4: I also have a Digital VR160 display, but everything I've read implies that it won't do monochrome. Is that true? Has anybody been successful with a monochrome display on this box? Any help would be most welcome. Doc

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Need manual for Everex digital cassette drive

by mhstein＠usa.net

Sounds like the same tapes as the Burroughs cassettes I've used and still have a few of. If so, case construction and tape characteristics aside, they also have BOT/EOT holes 17.7 inches >from the leader.. mike --------------------Original Message--------------- Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:42:06 +0000 (GMT) From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Subject: Re: Need manual for Everex digital cassette drive > > just off the center of the top of the cassette, and they have > > two slide > > tabs to turn write-protection on/off. Otherwise, it looks just like a > > regular analog cassette tape. > > No problem, just file a notch in your "analog" cassette. ;) Is your data really worth that _little_ that it's not worth buying the right tape? > I'm not sure that would work, but given the improved resolution, etc, in > cassette tapes during the last several years, it just may. I am pretty sure the coercivity of the tape in the 'digital' cassettes is considerably high that that of the tape in normal audio cassettes... - -tony

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OT: RE: Cats around computers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 12, Ben Franchuk wrote: > > Aztecs bred a special dog race, called "izcuintle", for > > culinary purposes. They're pretty ugly as they are > > hairless. But they're supposed to taste like pork. > > They also ate people too, that tastes like pork too. Isn't everything supposed to taste like chicken? My favorite exchange from Stargate SG-1, as Daniel sits down to some field rations: Daniel: <munch munch munch> "This tastes like chicken." Maj. Carter: "What's wrong with that?" Daniel: "It's macaroni and cheese." -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Wierd Things you've found inside... (was Smoking around computers))

by zmerch＠30below.com

Rumor has it that Douglas Quebbeman may have mentioned these words: > > > I'll bet you're presbyotic (far-sighted) > > > > Nit pick time. I think you mean presbyopic. presbyotic would be > > someone who can only hear things far away. Hmmm... from my High School biology & health classes, I seem to recall that myopia is nearsightedness, *hyperopia* was farsightedness, and I thought that presbyopia was either someone who can see near & far but not in between, or someone that could not see near or far, but what was in between was in focus... but that was a long time ago... and the health field changes faster than the computer field... (I was amazed seeing back 80-90 years ago that over 50% of the folks that died in my town were diagnosed with "consumption"... I wonder what consumed them? Maybe squirrels??? ;-) > > > Plus, isn't the fiddle on their stomach? Should I ask the spider > > > to "present, front and center" so i can check? > > > > Definitely on the back, hence the common name fiddleback spider. Makes me *very* happy to be in Northern Michigan - other than a rumor every 10 years or so of a rattlesnake being seen, hardly anything poisonous other than wasps & bumblebees is able to survive up here... :-) Oh, and my grandma was born/raised in the foothills of Kentucky -- if it didn't crawl away fast enough, it was dinner. I've eaten squirrel that my brother & I shot (small red squirrels) - it's *very* tasty, but you'd best have a *lot* of them! I've also had muskrat, beaver, raccoon, squid, deer (venison - my dad just shot one this morning!! Yum!), bear, moose, buffalo, elk, wild boar.... usw. And yes, cow's tongue is very good also, when prepared correctly, but I never did acquire a taste for the pickled pork hocks... I don't "pretend" what I like, because I like most everything. Yes, it's offtopic, but I just thought I'd include that for those here who are squeamish... ;^> "Merch" -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an *older* .sig. (circa 1997!) Why does Hershey's put nutritional information on their candy bar wrappers when there's no nutritional value within?

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Cats around computers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > My Zoology prof claimed to have eaten just about > eberything on the planet that people make a regular > habit of eating... grubs were the first thing he > mentioned. Fear. I will never understand the "I am cool because I eat, and pretend to like, things that gross most people out" mentality. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Cats around computers

by ken＠seefried.com

>From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> >I had a cat lick pictures once. They'll eat/chew on the darndest things >if you let them. ... >My parents still have one cat that will eat/chew ribbon >>David Woyciesjes wrote: >> Well, my 3 1/2 year old cat, Isabelle, like to like tape and pictures. >> Never figured that one out yet... I think it might be texture. I've got a cat that compulsively licks plastic items, especially grocery bags. Obviously no taste, but anything plasticy, she licks. I just thought she was a tard-cat. Ken

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Cats around computers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > BTW, now that you're _down south_, has anyone turned > > > you onto the burgers at Crystal's ? > > > > I don't believe I've had them yet, no...are they good? > > They're sometimes known as "southern sliders"... when you > see them, you'll know why... I will try some. :-) > And re: squirrels, lemme tell ya, I wouldn't be alive > if they *weren't* food... there were times when squirrel > wasn't the usual delicacy, but the only damned thing my > ancestors could find to eat. Oh yes, my ancestors too...but as long as it was THEM and not ME! ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Emerald Systems digital cassette drive

by vcf＠vintage.org

Ok, now I found an Emerald Systems digital cassette drive. This is an internal drive and has its own interface card. However, I don't have a driver disk or manual for this one either. Does anyone have the drivers or a manual? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Wierd Things you've found inside... (was Smoking around compu ters)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Yeah, just what we would need to find..... a Sydney Funnel Web spider. > I don't even want to meet a Brown Recluse. All spiders have toxins in their venom; not all toxins are dangerous to humans. Apparently most humans *are* susecptible to the brown recluse, but in varying degrees. I've seen the brown recluse in my home, among several other species. Can't always tell which is which but I can tell that some are different from others. One species living in and around my home grows very large. One night, I'd come home from a drunk, and passed out with the lights on; sleeping on a mattress on the floor. I awoke from the pain of a bite, looked at my arm and saw a small amount of blood. Just at the edge of the bed, I saw a *big* spider scurry off. In my stupor, I deciced to go back to sleep; worst case, I simply wouldn't wake up. But the next day comes, bidden or not. Now, I used to have these embarrasing warts on my elbows and underside of my forearms. A couple of days later, while showering, I noticed these warts were swollen up. Strange; but I didn't give it any more thought. A week later, I looked again, and the warts were gone. Somewhere in my basement lives a species of spider that contains a miracle wart cure in its venom. If only I could determine which one, I'd be rich! I do have lots of webs in some of the classic EQ I have down in the basement (notably the SOL). But I've found that letting the ants and spiders have their way keeps the roach population in control. Much better than "Better living through Chemistry". -dq

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TRS-80 Model 6000

by univac2＠earthlink.net

I am very happy today - I'm finally getting a TRS-80 Model 6000! Anyway I was wondering if anyone has any software for it (it runs Xenix, which it has), or the hardware manual, as I am only getting the Xenix manuals. And if anyone has one of those neat little TRS-80 DT-1 terminals for it, I'd love that.

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Couple of items available . . .

by cfandt＠netsync.net

I've got four Iomega Bournoulli Boxes, model A210H, if anybody wants them. I can maybe think of a few bits to swap for them but that doesn't matter. I just need the room (as several list members who've visited us can attest) and want them to go to a new home. I can ship but just reimburse me for the shipping cost and maybe purchase of a proper shipping carton or two as needed. Seem to weigh 15 to 20 lbs. each. Zip code 14701. Also, any interest in several IBM 3287 printers? Dot matrix 132 column page printers which use SNA network interface. Thanks, Chris -- -- NNNN Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net Member of Antique Wireless Association URL: http://www.antiquewireless.org/

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Cats around computers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

I will pass, thanks. ;) On December 13, Merle K. Peirce wrote: > I suppose that means you wouldn't want to borrow my Rat Archduke recipe? > > On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Dave McGuire wrote: > > > On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > Rodents *are* chewy... have you never had squirrel? > > > > NO. And I hope I NEVER get that hungry. > > > > -Dave > > > > -- > > Dave McGuire > > St. Petersburg, FL > > > > M. K. Peirce > > Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc. > Shady Lea, Rhode Island > > "Casta est quam nemo rogavit." > > - Ovid > > -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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USENET from 1981 to present on google

by Huw.Davies＠kerberos.davies.net.au

At 07:34 AM 13/12/2001 -0500, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: >*REplies* to my first posts are there, but not the posts themselves... The first post I recall making in 1987 is there. This was just after Australia got a reliable 19.2K modem link to the US but before TCP/IP had taken hold. From the address I used (huw(a)latcs1.oz) we were still using SUN-II as the network protocol. Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)kerberos.davies.net.au | "If God had wanted soccer played in the | air, the sky would be painted green"

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if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> This is hillarious! Wasn't the notion of a stack arond already > before 1965? Sometimes, even when stacks were provided in hardware, they operated slower than a "simulation" of a stack using an array and an index. While the hardware might provide for a complex stack frame for the data needed by local activations, you could avoid all the overhead by rolling your own. Regards, -dq

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Tandy 3.5" floppy and NEC 8201A

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

I read on a website that the Tandy 3.5" floppy intended for the M100/200 series can be connected and driven by an NEC 8201A. This seems feasable and I find my 8201A much more portable than the M200 that I also have. However, the guy never responded to my E-mail. What would I need to set this up? I do have the original RS-232 cable. What I don't have are any kind of DOS disks. -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- Any clod can have the facts, but having an opinion is an art. -- C. McCabe -

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if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Doc wrote: > > A firewall with a video card? Gotta love them PCs. ;) > > Yeah... Most distros don't even have a headless install option, and not > all PCs will even complete a POST without a video card. But more > relevant is the fact that hardly anybody I know, even the geeks, knows > what a null-modem cable is for, let alone own a serial terminal. Fear. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by Richard.Sandwell＠roebry.co.uk

I think the IBM S/360 was 'stack challenged' too, iirc //Rich Hi, I found this really interesting: The PDP-8 has no concept of a stack. It does have sub-routines though. Instead of pushing the instruction pointer onto a stack, it's being written at the location to which the call is directed (first address of the subroutine). Then a return is simply an indirect jump to that first address of the subroutine. This is hillarious! Wasn't the notion of a stack arond already before 1965? fun stuff, isn't it?

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