Hey folks, would anyone here be able to get me disk images for OS/2
release 3 or 4?
Thanks,
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glen Goodwin [mailto:acme_ent@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: 20 December 2001 05:33
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: C64 vs. Spectrum (was Re: Hardest to Find Classic Computers
> (SX64))
>
> Don't go near comp.sys.sinclair. "Commode" users get slammed
> there on a
> regular basis -- and hard.
Conversely, don't go near any of the cbm newsgroups either; sometimes the
arguments plunge to new depths of childishness, and more often than not the
cbm-ers get their internet buddies to troll c.s.s till people start leaving.
> The general opinion seems to be that the C64 folks stole the
> best games
> from the Spec, and cut price to run Sinclair out of the market.
For me the C64 was too expensive when I was Speccy buying, and I only got
*that* because I sold my ZX81.
I'm not gonna say any more - might start another flamewar :)
--
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> Dammit - I was offered a Digital Group machine earlier this
> year and the only thing that stopped me was the horrendous shipping cost
> from the US.
> This thing had the (in)famous tape unit attached that
> contained either 4 or 6 drives; can't remember. ....
> >
> >- --
> >Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd
>
> Ulp ... Adrian, what part of the US? Any idea what became of
> the machine
> eventually
New York I think; I've still got all the correspondance on my rotting
Winduhs partition at home that I *must* get off before it completely
implodes. Again. The guy that had it wanted it to go to a good home so I
doubt he'll have skipped it. Nice looking machine too; his home-made tape
drive enclosure was a beaut.
I'll try and check when I get home tonight, but it's the office xmas 'do'
>from 4pm so remembering things might be a bit fraught :)
--
Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd
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w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com
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> On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> OTOH, if I could afford $10-40K I'd be very tempted to call Compaq up and
> buy a DS20 or ES40 to run VMS on.
Hang on for 10 years then you can get one for $75 ;-)
I have a PS2 50Z I use as I have an HP scanner and interface for it.
Nice machine though at 1mb it's kinda tight for memory even by 286
standards.
The upside is I have OS/2 V3 warp for it.
Allison
Guys,
My wife recently got a job at a bridal retail chain that uses NCR 386/486
UNIX for the POS terminals and financial matters relating to the operation
of the store.
It's running on what appears to be an NCR 386 (or 486?) with a tape backup,
and services four WYSE terminals and a printer. Seems to be a standard
setup for the stores in this chain.
There is also a WYSE CE terminal connected via ADSL to a Citrix server -
but that is naturally a piece of sh*t. Always crashing. Situation normal
for Windows.
Just curious if anyone here has had experience with this flavor of UNIX. I
used to work at Radio Shack and at the time we ran the entire store from a
386 running XENIX. It handled *EVERYTHING*. Performance of the whole system
was quite impressive. This NCR system seems to be rock solid and has decent
performance.
Just curious. It's neat to see something other than Windows "in the wild".
- Matt
Matthew Sell
Programmer
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In a message dated 12/19/01 4:58:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rschaefe(a)gcfn.org writes:
<< > On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, bill pointon wrote:
>
> > hi -- im new to this list but an old fan of os2 -- i would love the warp
> > server if you could part with it or copy it -- what would you want in
> > return ? ------- billp
>
> Hmmm, your firstborn?
> Nah, probably just something cool someday. If you have an upload site,
> there's not even postage. Did I mention it's the smp version?
Did you ever find a site? I might be able to swing something, if I can get
a copy too... ^_^
>
> Doc
>>
agreed, would be cool to get a copy. I have smp version of 2.1 but want
something newer. Warp server is basically version 3 with the server goodies
added.
I need an image of the 4th MS-DOS 6.22 3.5" disk, the 'extra program'
disk. My disk seems to have been lost while moving things around in my
house. TIA.
--
Jeffrey S. Sharp
jss(a)subatomix.com
> > Chris - Now, I'm a honkey (now what's the origin of that?)
> > just like you...
>
> The first time I heard the term "honkey" was on "The Jeffersons"... a
> favorite *classic* tv show... :)
Then there's ofey/ofay...
Oh, yeah, down 'Bama way, I believe the term is
"frecklebelly".... why? Ever notice how bubba's
t-shirts sometimes wear so thin around the belly?
It's cognate to "redneck"...
-dq
Can someone help Dan with his request? Please reply directly to Dan.
Reply-to: <dpolla(a)utanet.at>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:00:48 +0100
From: Dan Polla <dpolla(a)utanet.at>
To: vcf(a)vintage.org
Subject: hp 97 card reader
Good evening gentlemen, I have to ressemble the HP 97cardreader - and have
all (?) small parts in a little box; can anyone send me a pic of the
downside of the readers little circiutboard?
Thanks a lot!
Dan
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On Dec 19, 1:02, Tony Duell wrote:
> > DEC 380 bus receiver
> Quad NOR gate Bus Receiver
> > DEC 97401 bus receiver
>
> Are you sure that's not a driver?
It possibly is.
> > DEC 384 (or DEC 5384, which I think is the same) bus driver
>
> As far as I can see, this is the non-inverting (OR) equivalent to the 380
Thanks -- that's most helpful.
> FWIW, my 8/e printset includes the M8650. It uses the above chips (and
> numbers the pins on the schematic). It also confirms that the 380 and 384
> are receivers and the 97401 is a driver.
How many sheets are in the set? I wonder if you could copy it. I know you
don't have regular access to a copier, and not to an A3 copier, but the
schematic in sections would be useful. But first, I'll see how far I get
now I know the pinouts.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> Awwww, c'mon. Wizball brings a smile to everyone's face.
One of the best games of all time. I never really got into the C64, I was too
busy
building disk drive controller boards for the Atari or trying to get fig
forth to run.
Sad but true :-(
The C64 was a really neat machine but had a few hardware reliability problems.
The PAL and the graphics chip were prone to early failure. At one time I used
to fix two or three machines a week for a friend who owned a TV repair shop.
He bought scrap machines from high street dealers and I would end up having
to fix them.
However, some of the games for these machines were works of genius. I really
admire the people who had to write the software, mostly in assembler, and too
impossible deadlines.
The same could be said for the "speccy". Not exactly reliable but for three
chips, Z80, current injection logic ASIC, sound and some DRAM - WOW !
The cassette interface could be a problem but when faced with the prospect
of having to rebuild DC100 tapes, ( including drilling holes in the tape ),
and
replacing the drive wheel in an HP tape drive - I'd go for the "speccy".
Best Regards
Chris Leyson
At the place I picked up my 9-track tape drive they had a Nile 150
system with storage unit that they're looking to unload. I don't
know anything about the system (nor did they, other than the guy
telling me about the system said it has MIPS R4x00 CPUs).
--
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dittman(a)dittman.net
Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/
Ulp ... Adrian, what part of the US? Any idea what became of the machine
eventually?
- Mark
>Dammit - I was offered a Digital Group machine earlier this year and the
>only thing that stopped me was the horrendous shipping cost from the US.
>This thing had the (in)famous tape unit attached that contained either 4 or
>6 drives; can't remember. ....
>
>- --
>Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd
Hi again,
I neglected to mention in my last power series post the odd video connectors
on this thing:
1 analog video in/out breakout plug. (The same as the plug for the Galileo
breakout, I believe)
2 "Digital video out" plugs. (They look like 25-pin or so parallel plugs,
female)
7 BNCs. I assume 4 of them are the R, G, B, and S for the monitor. The
others are labeled "Alpha," and are also red, green, and blue. What do I do
with them? :)
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
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print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Doc wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> >
> > > Nice system! We're using a few at work. Not what I would call a
hobbyist
> > > system though.
> >
> > Me neither, but I'd have never thought of S/390s as toys either....
>
> Hehehehehehe...
No, No, Sridhar, you've got the maniacal laugh all wrong, it's
"Bwa-ha-ha!"
;)
-dq
Hi Folks,
Propably not yet 10y old so slightly OT. yet .....
I got a SynOptics 810M ethernethub about 9 month
ago and it served me fine till two weeks back.
When I came home all the power was down because
the groundleak protection was triggerd.
Eventually it turned out to be the powersupply of this
hub that went bad on me. I want to replace it with
another psu but I can't find any info on the way
the ps2-like powerplug is wired.
The 810M needs +5V +12V -12V 0V and ground
connections.
Does anyone, familiar with this device, have a clue ???
Sipke de Wal
----------------------------------------------------
http://xgistor.ath.cx
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From: Ben Franchuk <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca>
>True. The only real trick I used was on reset. This would clear
>the instruction register and state counter to zero. I would then
Reset for the approach I took was simple...clear the ucode latchs.
the reset(restart) addres in ucode was 000h.
>use that to fetch the first instruction. All instructions would
>start from state 2. IRQ was jam on the bus the IRQ instruction.
>This has changed slightly as of today since I did add a irq input
>and made reset now load a octal bootstrap.
IRQ was simple too.. the first microinstruction for the normal
machine cycle was opcode fetch... unless the IRQ FF was set then
the microaddress loaded was interrupt action address rather than the
mapped opcode. That meant the interrupt system was synchronized
to instruction fetch and also the actions taken were what ever ucode
dictated. IRQ and CALL were the same basic ucode obviously.
Other things I played with is a JSR (pdp-8 style) and CALL(stack
style like z80 and others). Both had advantages but the JSR style
was easier to make fast in ucode{fewer microwords}.
>I have looked a microcode but not having a PROM burner kept me from
>doing anything with it. I found I spent more time writing software
>and emulators than thinking about hardware in great detail.
>Most of the fixing of bent opcodes have been done before I did the
>hardware but I did make a few changes in the exact opcode order.
At the time I did it (1981ish) the emulator would have to run on either CP/M
z80, RT-11(PDP-11) or my fingers. Part of the opcode thing was design,
test, then play what if. At that time I used 350ns 2732s as I had them
and could easily burn them, not fast but, easy to use. Also all the ucode
for lack of a compiler was hand written.
The approach was modular, simple and as much of the circuits repetitive
to make wiring (wire wrap) easy to do and troubleshoot. For example the
microstate machine was tested with one 2732, one LS273, one 74153 and
a debounced pushbutton. That allowed me to investigate things like micro
jumps, looping and startup. From there it was pretty easy to add more bits
to control other logic like RAM, ALU and bus traffic latches.
Using 2901s with that microcontroller was a fairly simple, expandable and
managable machine of moderate speed by 1981 standards. Still it was
fairly large and ate power!
One for the experimental machines tried with that hardware was a 1802 like
register based cpu with 16 registers like 1802 but the ALU and data paths
were also 16bits. Even simple changes like that have interesting effects
on in instruction sets and addressing modes. For example the 1802 does
not have instructions for loading or storing the 16bit register content, you
have to move bytes through the Accumulator due to 8bit busses (even
internal).
Once you have a 16bit path other things make more sense(or less!).
Allison
Yes, this box is not quite old enough, but it is an AppleTalk &
LocalTalk Router. The protocols probably do classify as "Classic".
Anyway, Cayman.com doesn't have docs online anymore for this, and
I'm gonna try calling/e-mailing them right after this is sent.
Does anyone else have a user's guide, and/or reference guide for
this? So far Google is turning up only 'How-To' for setting it up. I'd like
to get my hans on the paper guides that shipped with it. At least a copy, or
something...
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
--- (203) 432-0953
--- ICQ # - 905818
Since I have had some requests from dealers I went through my storage locker
and pulled out most of the rest of my DEC cards. The highlight seems to be
some complete core memory sets. There are a couple of Floating Point cards, a
GPIB, 11/02 & 11/23 CPUs and Drive controllers.
Please contact me off list at whoagiii(a)aol.com with offers or if you have
questions. I am traveling this week so it may take me a day or two to answer.
Paxton
Astoria Oregon
Here is the list:
DEC cards - QBUS
1 M3104 DHV11-A Quad 8-LINE ASYNC MUX, DMA (DHV11)
2 M7264 KD11-F, 11-03 Processor wi 4K word MOS RAM ****
2 M7264 CB KD11-F, 11-03 Processor wi 4K word MOS RAM ****
1 M7264 YC KD11-H, 11-03 Processor wi 0K word RAM, Rev F or later ****
13 M7270 KD11-HA, LSI-11/2 CPU, 16-bit ****
1 M7546 TQK50-AA, TMSCP controller for TK50 tape unit
1 M7680 RK05
2 M7800 DL11, Async transmitter & receiver, 110-2400 baud,
2 M7800 YA DL11, M7800 without EIA chips, current loop only
2 M7856 DL11-W, RS-232 SLU & realtime clock option
3 M7940 DLV11, Serial Line Unit (SLU, Async)
8 M7941 DRV11, 16 Bit Parallel Line Unit
1 M7944 MSV11-B, 4-Kword 16-bit MOS RAM (external refresh)
2 M7946 RXV11, RX01 8" floppy disk controller
1 M8013 RLV11, RL01 disk controller, 1 of 2, Wi BC06-R Cable
1 M8017 DLV11-E, Single-line async control module
2 M8017 AA DLV11-E, Single-line async control module
2 M8028 DLV11-F, Async interface EIA/20mA, error flags, break
1 M8029 RXV21, RX02 floppy disk controller, 18-bit DMA only.
11 M8043 DLV11-M, 4-Line Asynchronous Interface
1 M8044 CB MSV11-DC, 16-Kword 16-bit MOS RAM
10 M8044 DB MSV11-DD, 32-Kword 16-bit MOS RAM
2 M8044 DC MSV11-DD, 32-Kword 16-bit MOS RAM
1 M8044 DE MSV11-DD, 32-Kword 16-bit MOS RAM
1 M8044 DK MSV11-DD, 32-Kword 16-bit MOS RAM
1 M8044 EB
1 M8044 EM
1 M8045 DC MSV11-ED, 32-Kword 18-bit MOS RAM
3 M8045 DH MSV11-ED, 32-Kword 18-bit MOS RAM
1 M8045 DL MSV11-ED, 32-Kword 18-bit MOS RAM
1 M8059 FF MSV11-LF, 64-Kword MOS RAM, single voltage ****
1 M8059 KC MSV11-LK, 128-Kword MOS RAM, single voltage
2 M8059 KP MSV11-LK, 128-Kword MOS RAM, single voltage
3 M8186 KDF11, DUAL HEIGHT CPU,Q-BU ****
1 M8186 KDF11, DUAL HEIGHT CPU,Q-BUS CABLED TO ****
1 M8188 FPF-11, FLOATING POINT PROCESSOR Quad ****
1 M8639 YA RQDX1, RD51/52 & RX50 MFM Disk control module
2 M8950 TM78,READ CHANNEL
2 M8958 TM78 TRANSLATOR
1 M8960 8085 CPU Quad ****
1 M8973 8085 EXTENDED MEMORY,DBL8.5 ****
2 M9400 YE REV11-E, Headers and 250-ohm terminators (18-bit bus only)
2 M9404 Q22 bus cable connector, no terminators
1 W987A Quad Extender
1 W984A Dual Extender
1 H3001 Wi Plate Single Line RS232 Interface No cable
1 H3271 Staggered Turnaround Test Connector (DZ11[-x])
OTHER QBUS CARDS
1 Heathkit Serial I/O H-11-5 With cable to strange square plug Date 011879
****
1 National Instruments GPIB11-1 Rev A Quad ****
2 Plessey 701065-100H Single Serial Mil spec connectors Quad
1 Scientific Micro Systems FD0100I L/E-HIP 7939 Floppy Controller Quad
****
2 135 Q-Bus Digitizer Inf Rev C White handles Tek? Quad
1 Dilog DQ342 Rev C Tape controller emulates TS11/TU80,TSV05 NICE Quad ****
1 Dilog MQ696 Rev D 20 Mhz ESDI, FLOPPY, MSCP ****
1 Emulex TC1510201-SXC .25 Cassette Tape controller, wi Cable
1 Emulex TC1510201-SXD .25 Cassette Tape Controller, wi cable
1 Tektronix CP4100/IEEE 488 INTERFACE 1/83 Quad ****
1 Datasystems DLP-11 Quad Line Printer I/F
1 Dataram Assy. 62404 Rev D 8704 8 Meg Ram Quad
1 MM Memory 20-4930-01 Rev B 4 Meg Ram Quad
1 Ikonas IKQ 85/32-301-017-10A, BROKE WHITE TABS Quad
BAR CODES *3130101710AL*, *W0304701* & *11966*
1 MDB MDB-1710 Prototype section board Quad ****
1 MDB MDB-11WWB Rev C Prototype card Quad ****
4 MDB MLSI-DLV11 #40320 Serial cards
1 Data Systems Design (DSD) A4432-3 LSI-11 1978
1 Intel 05-0848-006 LSI-11 Memory card with only 5 chips socketed ****
1 Digital Pathways RMA-128 Memory card with 32 64K chips
2 Motorola Memory Systems MMS122N3032 Memory card with Gold piggy back 32K
4132 DRam chips 1 Rev B (not working), 1 Rev C ****
1 Datafusion OSB11-A-01 Two Cards Dual Width Termination
1 Data Translation EPO43 Rev F 11/82 wi DT15150 DC/DC Converter ****
1 Data Translation DT2764-SE EPO50 Rev H 06/82 A to D Board
1 Netcom NDLV-11 Serial Card
1 2501 2045 Army Green handles Seiko mfg Jumper two card set
1 4711 00 Army Green handles A/D Sample Hold 2501-4711-00/4 Wi Datel
Ultra Fast A/D Converter ADC-EH12B3 Missing 2 TTL chips
1 4990 Army Green handles 1923-4990/1 wi ADC DAC1207, 05/64 OEM sticker
Single width card.
DEC CORE MEMORY ****
4 G110 Core Memory set for PDP 11/40 ****
4 G231 16K XY Selection, Current source, Address Latch,8K Decode. ****
3 H214 Core 8KX16 8K 16 bit ****
1 H215 Core 8KX18 (375) 8K 18 bit ****
2 sets H222A MM11-DP 16KX18 (375) 16K per set, unsure of the sys ****
G652 ****
MASSBUS MASSBUS MASSBUS
2 M5903 DRIVE TRANCEIVER
2 M5922 MASS BUS TRANSCEIVER, PORT A, RM03
Unusual cards 6 wide - Cannot tell if Uni or Q
1 ? SDLC PCB127 Rev C
2 ? Q BUS SYS PCB136 Rev B Appears to be a test board. Has TST/NOR, HIT/RUN
& RESTART switches. Also has LEDs for TEST NO., CODE, STATUS wi LSB & MSB.
DEC Cards that are 4 wide but not able to tell if Uni or Qbus
1 M3110 PROTOCOL ASSIST #1 SPEC CHAR
1 M3111 PROTOCOL ASSIST #2 SPEC CHAR
2 M7364
2 M7365
1 M7366
Unibus Unibus Unibus
1 M3105 DHU11-A, 16-LN ASYNC MUX,DMA
3 M7133 KDF11-UA, 11/24 CPU, LINE CLOCK, 2 SER
1 M7294 RH11 MASSBUS DATA BUFFER & CONTROL
1 M7295 RH11-A, BUS CONTROL
3 M7485 YA UDA50-A two with both jumper cables,
3 M7486 UDA52, UDA SI one with one jumper cable
2 70-18455-6K Red cable sets for above
5 M7819 DZ11, 8-LINE DBL BUF ASYNC EIA WI MODEM CONTROL
7 M7819 00 DZ11, 8-LINE DBL BUF ASYNC EIA WI MODEM CONTROL
1 M7867 DUP11-DA, SDLC or DDCMP Sync Interface
1 M7891 DK 128-Kword 18-bit parity MOS memory
1 M7900 RK611, RK06/07 Unibus Interface
1 M7901 RK611, RK06/07 Register Module, Hex
1 M7902 RK611, RK06/07 Control Module, Hex
1 M7903 RK611, RK06/07 Data Module, Hex
1 M792 YL RX11 floppy loader
3 M8265 KD11-EA, 11/34A data paths module
2 M8266 KD11-EA, 11/34A control module
1 M8267 FP11-A, 11/34A Floating Point ****
1 M8743 AP MDECS-AA, 512-Kbyte ECC RAM
5 M9202 UNIBUS connector, inverted M9192-M9292, 1"APART W/2'C
1 70-20956-10 Cable set
Other Mfg. UNIBUS
1 Emulex CS2110203/F1E 16 Ch RS-232 Communications controller
1 Emulex CS2110203/F2B 16 Ch RS-232 Communications controller
1 Western Peripherals TC131 Tape Controller
1 Plessey Peripherals 701840-101J 2-50 pin & 1-26 pin connectors
1 Intergraph PCB360 Rev A Ethernet & 1 Meg Ram
1 M&S Computing PCB209 Rev B Vector Data Generator
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