The IBM PS/1 models 2011 and 2121 both use the same monitor with power supply
inside. I get several emails from people that buy the CPU but didnt get the
display with it. PCjr power supplies show up every once in a while around
here, especially at hamfests. In fact, I bought a jr a few months back with a
second story floppy drive that connects to the main unit. I'd like to hook up
my PCjr hard drive to it also.
In a message dated 10/17/2001 11:43:23 AM Central Daylight Time,
lgwalker(a)mts.net writes:
<< The 1640 reminds me of the IBM 2011 with the power supply in the monitor
unit. There was an informative thread a while back on the mail list in the
spring of 1999 regarding the 1640. I have one but alas no K-B. I did win one
on e-bay but was never able to get a reply from the seller.
I also have a PCjr and like you don't have the PSU. They come up on e-pay
occasionally but either I haven't had the money at that time or else the
seller
wouldn't ship to Canada. I have managed to acquire some manuals for it,
including the IBM one, however, as well as some cartridges but they are
buried somewhere among my stuff which is still in disarray due to my move
this summer. When I run across them I'll let you know.
Lawrence
> Went to a new thrift store this week. Ended up with way more stuff
> than I expected to. The big items were a complete Amstrad PC 6400
> (8-bit PC clone, dual half-height floppies, 3 ISA slots, proprietary
> monitor that powers the base through a monster DIN connector,
> proprietary keyboard with 9-pin joystick connector) and a nearly complete
> PCjr w/128K and parallel port sidecars (got non-chicklet keyboard w/cable
> and CPU, but no PSU). How much should a PCjr PSU run me? What cartridges
> were there for it? The company I used to write kids games for (Software
> Productions - makers of "Alphabet Beasts and Company, Micro Mother Goose,
> Micro Habitats, etc.) did support it, but I was the C-64 dude, not the
> PeeCee dude. (ob digression: when the company closed, we _did_ hold the
> door open with the PCjr - it really was a doorstop ;-)
>
> The scary part is that the Amstrad was about triple the cost of the Peanut
> (~$6 (after markdown from $11) vs ~$2). I guess size does matter.
>
> So far in my digging, I've found that the Amstrad PC 6400 is the
> American name for the Amstrad PC 1640, and I found a good Amstrad
> resource at http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cliff.lawson/index.htm
> Any other good tips?
>
> -ethan
> >>
> Could it have Been a Plus Systems HardCard? I know that they did a PC
> hardcard, I don't know about an apple II version... they were acquired? by
> quantum many years ago
I just dug out my 2 "hard drive on a card" units (not to be confused with
a "hot dog on a stick").
One is a Plus Hardcard (says so right on it), I have NO idea what kind of
a drive is connected to it (4 small ribbon cables marked R/W, Encoder,
Motor, Rotor... don't know what kind of drive connects that way), nor do
I know anything about the size (40mb?, see below) or setup of the drive.
But the specs may be available on Quantum's (well, now Maxtor's) web
site... I do know I have seen Hardcard info there before.
The other one doesn't have a name per se on in. The physical drive is
marked Kalok, Octagon Disk Drive by the Kalok Corporation. Model# KL330.
However, I think that might just be the OEM drive the unit manufacturer
used. It looks like maybe an MFM drive (2 card edge connectors that look
like 5.25 drive connectors). On the back of the unit is a sticker marked
Part#: (blank), Model#: CARD30R, Serial# 9790, Date: 1/90. If the date is
right, then this thing is WAY newer than I thought it was. At one point I
must have had some specs on it, as I have penned onto the drive the setup
of it (616c, 4h, 26s, 32mb).
I flipped thru my binders of tech notes, and I didn't find anything on
the Kalok drive, but I found a page of notes on the Plus hardcard...
tells me how to change the IO and IRQ settings, as well as how to
repartition it as one drive. Seems it comes as 2-20mb drives, but needs a
device driver to work, repartitioning it as one 40mb allows it to work
under DOS 6.22 without drivers. I don't think I have the drivers, and I
don't think this is originally my page (it is dot matrix printed and that
doesn't jive with the rest of my notes), so my guess is, I found it in a
closet somewhere and clipped in into my binder.
Well... hopefully some of you cared about all that... if so, there is a
picture of the two drives at <http://www.mythtech.net/hardcard.jpg>. If
not... sorry to waste the bandwidth.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
This didn't seem to get thru last time. Sorry if it's a duplicate post.
L.
Here's some gleanings from my database of a2gs inf. I believe it was
supplied by Supertimer on the csa2 newsgroup.
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There are two things you need to do to get the IIGS usable.
First, get a hard drive for it. http://www.allelec.com/ Alltech
Electronics sells an internal hard drive for the IIGS that is
a hard drive on a card. No extra controller needed. It is
an IDE controller plus notebook mechanism. It costs $59.
For that price, you also get the most modern Apple IIGS
System Software, GS/OS (System 6.0.1), which is normally
on six separate floppy disks (a hard drive is needed to get
the most out of it). You also get tons of freewares and
sharewares. The hard drive is called the Focus hard
drive card. Look for it on the Alltech site.
The other thing is memory. Alltech (see above for web
site) also sells the Sirius RAM card. They are revising
their web site, so this product may not yet be on there,
but just call them and ask. It is a 0-8MB memory card
that can be expanded in 1MB increments using 1MB
30 pin SIMMs. I'm sure you have an old 386 lying around
that you can gut.
Only the IIGS can run a graphical OS somewhat similar to MacOS.
The IIGS' OS can, with the proper software, generate printed
pages on high resolution ink-jet printers and laser printers
with TrueType fonts, an Apple (same as Mac) style GUI, and the
use of the same keyboards and mice as the Mac (in fact, ADB
was first used in the IIGS before being used on Macs...pre-GS
Macs used "telephone" style keyboard cables).
The IIGS has built in support for 15Khz analog RGB
color. The IIGS itself has a 4096 color palette
and is capable of theoretically throwing up to
3200 of those on screen at once. The monitor the
IIGS uses will also work on the Amiga and Atari ST
and their monitors will work on the IIGS.
some URLS
http://www.allelec.com/http://www.sequential.com/ Sequential Systems.
http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/
I believe the A2 FAQ by Rubywand and a bunch of
other stuff is still on this site or you can find it regularly
on the csa2 n-g.
There used to be older FAQ by one Nathan Mates a
notorious csa2 flamer who, in a snit, removed it from
circulation. If you contact me off-list I MIGHT be able to
tell you what was in it.
Since I've had an A-gs monitor for years and by the Law
of Affinity knew that a GS would eventually find it's way to me
(thanks Rich) I've kept this info and even the GS manual.
Lawrence
SNIP
> I was hoping maybe they used the same ports, and I might be able to use
> the HD 20 with my IIgs so I can add a hard drive to it.
>
> Anyone info would be great.
>
>
>
> -chris
>
> <http://www.mythtech.net>
>
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lgwalker(a)mts.net
One gone, one awaiting its fate: T300 dual floppy PC semi-compatible, no monitor (but std RGB OK), spare KB, 2 sets of 3 manuals, 123 & dBII, diskettes & some tech info; also service info & schematics for T100. Good for converting 360 to/from 600 Kb diskettes.
Headed for landfill if no interest.
mike
Does anyone know if an Apple IIgs can use an old Macintosh Hard Disk 20.
The Mac HD is NOT scsi, but rather uses the disk drive port on a Mac. It
was designed to work with older non scsi macs (128k 512k), and could be
daisy chained thru the disk drive ports (at one point, I think I had 3 HD
20s and a 400k drive connected to my 128k Mac).
The IIgs has a disk drive port, and visually, the 3.5" drive I have for
it looks just like the 3.5" drive I have off an old Mac Classic (I have
to go off visual, as the one from the Classic has no labels or other
markers beyond the apple logo... don't know why, that is the way it was
when it was given to me).
I was hoping maybe they used the same ports, and I might be able to use
the HD 20 with my IIgs so I can add a hard drive to it.
Anyone info would be great.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
In the process of reclaiming basement space for other hobbies,
I have unearthed a box containing two complete years of BYTE magazines,
specifically 1982 and 1983. They are in very nice condition.
If you want them, please reply to me directly to arrange pickup
in central New Jersey, just off the Garden State Parkway.
At a later date, I might also be uncovering at least one complete Sony
SMC-70 (CP/M) system, perhaps up to two more system units and a number
of add-on cards. These probably won't be free, but certainly not eBay
prices. (I'd work a trade, but I really really need the space)
Again, reply directly if you'd be interested.
Thanks.
On October 17, Gene Buckle wrote:
> > Two stage weapons physics is really weird. The first time I read
> > the phrase "photon gas" my head spun.
>
> Photon gas. Say WHAT? :)
I get that when I eat too much Mexican food.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Laurel, MD
> Speaking of bad taste,
> Did anyone notice that there was a picture of the WTC
> expolsions published in 'Wired' before the 11th?
> (apologies in advance) Fact. The October issue has
> no Written reference to the event because it was obv.
> made before 11-Sep. However, on p.170 there is a
> very realic picture from an ultrabad taste (now)
> CD called Party Music of The Coup. where the artwork
> depicts two tower explosions.
>
> So... blame Wired?
Blame 'Wired' for the cover design of The Coup's album?
-dq
> Where did the idea come from? One way or another, we always knew that
> there would be a way to blame Microsoft.
>
>
> At Foothill, along with some other stuff, I got a 1988 copy of Microsoft
> Flight Simulator. The picture on the box is very stylized view of a
> [small] jet flying in front of WTC! The text on the back of the box goes
> on to suggest trying to fly your plane between the towers (they missed?)
Until just recently, either in the sim docs, or on the web page
associated with the sim, there is a table of famous landmarks
by GPS coordinates, in case you want to fly into one of them.
WTC is at the top of the list.
-dq
