test-drb October 2001

test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org

259 participants
770 discussions

by dittman＠dittman.net

> Shoot..... I've wanted a VLB SCSI card! The Adaptec would have been > perfect. Tell me, is the 2842 wide or narrow? Both of them were narrow. There wasn't a wide 2842. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

23 years, 6 months

Reading non-PC format floppies

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Tony, with characteristic modesty, said: >I've written programs, sure, but I don't think they're particularly >well-written or elegant programs. They just do the job I need to do. Tony: MICROS~ has what they call "programmers" and they don't get that far. Do I have to win the Indy 500 before I get to be called a "driver", or is it enough if I just make it to the grocery store and back? I'd go ahead and claim credit, were I you. You might say "...not a professional programmer" or "...don't have a formal degree in programming" or even "...not a serious programmer". But if you're able to read kernel sources in order to learn how to successfully use FDRAWCMD, I'd call you a programmer. Sellam: I humbly suggest that more exact forms of expression, at least in international public forums, might avert misunderstandings. - Mark

23 years, 6 months

What people "should" know

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Here here! One-shots are fine for pule shortening or stretching so long as it's non-critical. Worst abuse, Altair 8800 front pannel. One of the best designs that use a oneshot was the PERCOM Cassette board, it was a digitial oneshot and predictable. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 9:12 PM Subject: Re: What people "should" know >That's why it's been common practice to fire anyone who uses one-shots >(monostables) for anything. I personally believe it should go beyond that, in >that the perpetartor of such a heinous crim should be barred from asserting his >credentials as a circuit designer for a short period, of, say, 10 decades.

23 years, 6 months

Reading non-PC format floppies

by jdonogh1＠prodigy.net

Any tools for reading non-PC 5 1/4" HD floppies out there? Tried reading them with DOS DEBUG, get 'Data Error'.

23 years, 6 months

first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ...

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

OK, the default boot device (a SET option) is either dead or not found. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Gunther Schadow <gunther(a)aurora.regenstrief.org> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 12:19 PM Subject: Re: first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ... >Geoff Roberts wrote: > >> Hmm, Unit 0 has an excellent chance of being a system disk, but possible it >> was >> initialised prior to being retired. What's the exact error msg (console dump >> is good) > >I don't have the console dump on that, but the only error message >I recollect was: > >?3 Device I/O Error (or something very similar.) > >Would that be the appropriate response on an RA90 drive with >wiped-out media? My drive completed all tests, including the >spun-down and the spun-up tests (the latter includes disk >access tests.) > >> Tapes are probably sus. TK70's are the least reliable component of a 6000, >> but are still pretty reliable compared to the TK50. > >yack! > >> > I also have a TU81+ and VMS bootable tape on 9-track, maybe that's more >> reliable? >> >> Very likely, do you have the companion card for the TU81+ (KLESI-B) to go in >> the Vax? >> They TU81+ is not SDI, so it won't even plug in to the KDB50. If all else >> fails I can probably whip >> up a tape for you on ours. > >Instructions on how to write an Ultrix tape from VMS would >be cool. I'm sure I can get VMS up. What is the least >amount of knowledge that I need to get a VMS system up >in single user mode and try a couple of SDI accesses, >try reading a TK and writing to a TU? > > >> Not very familiar with Ultrix though I gather it's also possible to mop boot >> an ultrix box from a vms one, though I don't think it will do vice versa. > >It definitely is as the source code says. I'll use my FreeBSD >laptop as the boot host. Monitoring with tcpdump is a good way >of debugging network booting. > >Attached below you'll find annotated console dumps from my >yesterday's attempts (thanks to xterm :-) > >My comments are lines starting with "GS>" > >GS> I have swapped in another TK70 drive (one that may be less worn) >GS> and now I turn on the machine: > >#123456789 0123456789 0123456789 01234567# > >F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # > A A . A M M M M P P P P P P >TYP > o o . + + + + + + + + + + + >STF > . . . . . . . . E E E E E B >BPD > . . . . . . . . + + + + + + >ETF > . . . . . . . . E E E E E B >BPD > > >. . . . . . . . . + . . + + + . XBI D >+ >. . . . . . . . . + + . + . + . XBI E >+ > > . . . . A4 A3 A2 A1 . . . . . . >ILV > . . . . 128 128 128 128 . . . . . . 512 >Mb > >ROM0 = V4.00 ROM1 = V4.00 EEPROM = 2.03/4.02 SN = AG94408887 > > >>>> SHOW ALL > Type Rev > 1+ KA64A (8082) 000D > 2+ KA64A (8082) 000D > 3+ KA64A (8082) 000D > 4+ KA64A (8082) 000D > 5+ KA64A (8082) 000D > 6+ KA64A (8082) 000D > 7+ MS65A (4001) 0084 > 8+ MS65A (4001) 0084 > 9+ MS65A (4001) 0084 > A+ MS65A (4001) 0084 > B+ KDM70 (0C22) 2811 > D+ DWMBA/A (2001) 0002 > E+ DWMBA/A (2001) 0002 > > XBI D > 1+ DWMBA/B (2107) 000A > 2+ KLESI-B (0103) 0006 > 3+ KDB50 (010E) 142C > 6+ DEBNI (0118) 0400 > > XBI E > 1+ DWMBA/B (2107) 000A > 3+ DMB32 (0109) 0004 > 5+ CIBCA-B (0108) 41C2 > 6+ TBK70 (410B) 0307 > Current Primary: 1 > /NOENABLED- > /NOVECTOR_ENABLED- > /NOPRIMARY- >F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # > . . . . A4 A3 A2 A1 . . . . . . >ILV > . . . . 128 128 128 128 . . . . . . 512 >Mb > /INTERLEAVE:DEFAULT > /SCOPE /SPEED: 9600 /BREAK > English > XMI:D BI:6 08-00-2B-34-A5-CA > DEFAULT /XMI:E /BI:6 CSA1 > TAPE /XMI:E /BI:6 CSA1 > ETH0 /XMI:D /BI:6 ET0 >SHOW DSSI is not yet implemented > >GS> Now I have loaded the VMS 6.1 stand alone backup TK70 and go: > >>>> BOOT /XMI:E /BI:6 CSA1 >Initializing system. > >#123456789 0123456789 0123456789 01234567# > >F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # > A A . A M M M M P P P P P P >TYP > o o . + + + + + + + + + + + >STF > . . . . . . . . E E E E E B >BPD > . . . . . . . . + + + + + + >ETF > . . . . . . . . E E E E E B >BPD > > >. . . . . . . . . + . . + + + . XBI D >+ >. . . . . . . . . + + . + . + . XBI E >+ > > . . . . A4 A3 A2 A1 . . . . . . >ILV > . . . . 128 128 128 128 . . . . . . 512 >Mb > >ROM0 = V4.00 ROM1 = V4.00 EEPROM = 2.03/4.02 SN = AG94408887 > > >Loading system software. > > OpenVMS VAX Version V6.1 Major version id = 1 Minor version id = >0c >PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM) 23-OCT-2001 > >Configuring devices . . . > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 49 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >GS> oops, what is %PAA0? Something is bad, but what? >GS> as you might expect, it gives above error message for each >GS> retry 48, 47, 46, ... will not show those here. But there >GS> is also other stuff, as if I'm already running multi-tasked. > >Now configuring HSC, RF, and MSCP-served devices . . . > >GS> and on with the %PAA0 reinitializations down to 24 > >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 24 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > >Please check the names of the devices which have been configured, >to make sure that ALL remote devices which you intend to use have >been configured. > >If any device does not show up, please take action now to make it >available. > >GS> in a hurry I power up the RA90 hooked to the KDB50 and >spin it up > >Available device MUC6: device type TK70 >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 23 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > >GS> ... > >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 9 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 8 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 7 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 6 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 5 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 4 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 3 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 2 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 1 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 0 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is going Offline. > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: yes >%BACKUP-I-IDENT, Stand-alone BACKUP V6.1; the date is 23-OCT-2001 >00:03:52.13 >$ > >GS> yea! a prompt! we made it. But what's next? > >$ help >%CLI-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling > \HELP\ > >GS> ah I give up, I want to see Ultrix up, may be that new >GS> drive did it? Hit the reset button, system initializes >GS> same as above, swap in the Ultrix TK and go: > >>>> BOOT /XMI:E /BI:6 CSA1 >Initializing system. > >#123456789 0123456789 0123456789 01234567# > >F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # > A A . A M M M M P P P P P P >TYP > o o . + + + + + + + + + + + >STF > . . . . . . . . E E E E E B >BPD > . . . . . . . . + + + + + + >ETF > . . . . . . . . E E E E E B >BPD > > >. . . . . . . . . + . . + + + . XBI D >+ >. . . . . . . . . + + . + . + . XBI E >+ > > > . . . . A4 A3 A2 A1 . . . . . . >ILV > . . . . 128 128 128 128 . . . . . . 512 >Mb > >ROM0 = V4.00 ROM1 = V4.00 EEPROM = 2.03/4.02 SN = AG94408887 > > >Loading system software. >%BOOT-F-Insufficient memory for CI >?06 Halt instruction executed in kernel mode. > PC = 0000040Fc > SAVPSL = 041F0600 > ISP = 00000200 > >Bootstrap failed due to previous error. >>>> > > >GS> this is that CI problem. Now I turn off machine again and >GS> remove CI cards. I do have HSC90s to go with it and I definitely >GS> want to run CI, but for now I'll start easy. So, power up >GS> again. Wait for one initialization again, then: > >>>> BOOT /XMI:E /BI:6 CSA1 >Initializing system. > >#123456789 0123456789 0123456789 01234567# > >F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # > A A . A M M M M P P P P P P >TYP > o o . + + + + + + + + + + + >STF > . . . . . . . . E E E E E B >BPD > . . . . . . . . + + + + + + >ETF > . . . . . . . . E E E E E B >BPD > > >. . . . . . . . . + . . + . + . XBI D >+ >. . . . . . . . . + . . + + + . XBI E >+ > > . . . . A4 A3 A2 A1 . . . . . . >ILV > . . . . 128 128 128 128 . . . . . . 512 >Mb > >ROM0 = V4.00 ROM1 = V4.00 EEPROM = 2.03/4.02 SN = AG94408887 > > >Loading system software. > >?06 Halt instruction executed in kernel mode. > PC = 00280200c > SAVPSL = 041F0600 > ISP = 00280000 > >Bootstrap failed due to previous error. >>>> > >GS> here ends my console dump. > >If it weren't for the many heavy items I still have to >shuffle, disassemble, lift and reassemble, I could go mad >about the Ultrix folks who have neglected to put >some explanatory printf into the boot code before >the halt call. It could be so much easier if we knew what >the problem is. > >thanks, >-Gunther > >-- >Gunther_Schadow-------------------------------http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu >Regenstrief Institute for Health Care >1050 Wishard Blvd., Indianapolis IN 46202, Phone: (317) 630 7960 >schadow(a)aurora.rg.iupui.edu------------------#include <usual/disclaimer>

23 years, 6 months

MacOS DHCP Server?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >At one time, you could download trial versions of the package. > >Additionally, if you hunt around, you'll find the magix needed > >to make the evaluation period last a very, very long time. ;-) > > Although, lots of people use and love Vicom's SoftRouter (I think that is > the name it is going by now)... I would like to point out that last I > knew, it uses its own TCP/IP stack, and not Apple's OpenTransport. The > Vicom stack has been known to provide incompatibility with some software > that wants to use OpenTransport. I have also heard that Vicom's is more > unstable in general (but I guess that might be dependant on what version > of OpenTransport you compare it to, as early versions of OT were very > unstable in their own right). This might have changed by now, but I would > confirm it before buying. Yes, it does use it's own TCP/IP stack, but one which co-exists peacefully with Open Transport... it's not like you've got to drop back down to Classic Networking... We never had any stability problems. However, it does not pass GRE(47) packets, so you can't form a VPN connection through one. > And then just to give a plug to Sustainable Softworks... their > IPNetRouter product does everything Vicom's does (and more I believe), > and is priced pretty much the same ($49 for 68k only, $79 for PPC and > 68k). I don't have any connection with Sustainable Softworks, I am just a > VERY VERY satisfied customer (I put them as the #1 best company I have > ever had to deal with). Nice price, Chris; I'd say, David, go with it! -dq

23 years, 6 months

More free ISA/VME cards

by pcw＠mesanet.com

Maybe someone would like these for shipping charges. Hate to just toss em. ISA Q DESC 2 D-A cards 2X 12 bit analog out ? 1 D-A ADC card 2x12 bit D-A + maybe 8 chan 12 bit A-D ? 1 localtalk card ? 1 SCSI adapter Adaptec 1522A 2 SCSI adapter Adaptec 1540C 1 SCSI adapter Adaptec 1540B 1 SCSI adapter Adaptec 1542CF VME Q DESC 2 AB Creonics MCC 2 axis servo motor controller 1 Data translation DA -- ADC 12 bit DT1408 1 Teckint opto-isolated I/O card TVM 744 Misc Q DESC 6 OMTI SCSI/MFM disk controller model 310x 1 Columbia Data Products looks like MFM HDC has Z80 + 64K RAM + MFM disk interface PN 10805-D Peter Wallace

23 years, 6 months

first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ...

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Among all the fanning and blowing and spinning, the disk >seek can be pretty faint. No, I did not hear the disk >seeking and it all went suspiciously quick. I may My recollection of RA9x drives is that when you transition them to RUN (either by hitting the button or as a result of host action) they is a clear "thunk". >not have proper connection between KDB50 and disk. The >disk shows both ports A and B enabled, and I'm connected >only to A. Is there any ordering of the 4 ports on the >KDB50 bulkhead that I need to know to get it right? The order of the 4 KDB50 connections is essentially meaningless. It certainly does not determine device naming or whatever. The A/B port stuff also matters very little. If your KDB50 is connected to port A, then port A needs to be enabled and B is irrelevant. Or vice versa. Antonio

23 years, 6 months

Adventure in Ersatz-11

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

If I'd seem the message I'd have told you most of the PDP-11 games that eat memory run under the RT-11 SJ monitor. Advent is definately one. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Gooijen H <GOOI(a)oce.nl> To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:32 AM Subject: RE: Adventure in Ersatz-11 >Stupid that I did not think of trying SJ. >With SJ entering .R ADVENT starts Adventure also! >I assumed that VBG was for Virtual BackGround, so >nice to be comfirmed on that. >Indeed, I have E11 running on an 486DX2/66, but I >cannot give an idea of how fast it runs, compared >to a PDP-11. Although E11 can be set to an 11/70, >I have set it to /35-40 because that is also the >*real* hardware I have. Never set it to /34(A) or >to /44. Both those systems I also have running. >Next time that I start the 11/35 I will run ADVENT >on both of them and measure the time until the >welcome message appears on the screen. > >For the "blinkenlights" check out my webpage. >http://home.hetnet.nl/~tshaj/pdpsite/pdpstartpage.html > >then click in the left pane on the link Homebrew 'PDP-11'. >At this moment only the LEDs of the data bus blink. >I hope to add a piece of hardware that 'talks' to Ersatz-11 >so that the address bus LEDs are also active *and* that the >switches function as on the real thing. The goal is that >the hardware design can facilitate *any* real PDP-11 console >that has switches and lights, from an 11/10 to an 11/70. >Of course, this project needs the cooperation of John Wilson, >and I had already some preliminary contacts with him. >He also likes the option to connect a real console to the >demo(!) version of Ersatz-11. > >-Henk. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jerome Fine [mailto:jhfine@idirect.com] >> Sent: woensdag 24 oktober 2001 0:41 >> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >> Subject: Re: Adventure in Ersatz-11 >> >> >> >Gooijen H wrote: >> >> > Yes !! >> >> Jerome Fine replies: >> >> Thank you for the feed back. I was not sure how much memory >> ADVENT requires. You might also try: >> BOOT RT11SJ >> if you wish. >> >> > Thanks very much, Jerome. >> > Booting RT-11FB and then running ADVENT still produces >> > the "Insufficient memory" fatal error. >> > However, VBGEXE works fine ! >> > After the "Welcome to Adventure!! Would you like instructions?" >> > and entering 'YES", it goes: Somewhere nearby is Colossal Cave, >> > etc. >> > This means that I am now going to play Adventure. This has a >> > serious drawback on the expansion of my website ... >> > I am playing it on my "homebrew-PDP" with the BLINKENLIGHTS on!! >> > On my website this project (early phase) has a separate link. >> > BTW. What is VBGEXE, what do the letters stand for? >> > Thanks again, >> > Henk. >> >> "EXEcute Virtual BackGround program" is how I think of the letters >> with the understanding that the word EXEcute is then switched >> to the end. >> >> A few points worth noting. >> >> (a) If FOO.SAV requires any arguments as in: >> "RUN DEV:FOO.SAV arguments" or replace RUN with VBGEXE, >> then they must be on the same line. The alternative is the >> put all three >> parts of the command on separate lines. Otherwise, with just >> "VBGEXE DEV:FOO.SAV" on the first line, somehow the request >> for information expects the arguments to already be there and if not, >> just exits. Entering: >> VBGEXE >> DEV:FOO.SAV >> arguments >> on three separate lines works as well. >> >> (b) The command: >> SRUN VBGEXE.SAV/TERMINAL:n/LEVEL:m/NAME:utility >> also works very well when you want to run a system job at a >> higher priority. >> TERMINAL is only useful with a system that has multi-terminal support >> LEVEL specifies the system job number ( 1=>6 ) >> NAME can be used to automatically select an executable file >> called SY:utility.SAV >> One minor problem is that if name is omitted, then only ONE >> instance of >> VBGEXE can be invoked as a system job since the high memory >> GRCBs (Global >> Region Control Blocks) must all have different names. I have >> a small patch >> with allows the user to do the command: >> SRUN VBGEXE.SAV/TERMINAL:n/LEVEL:m/NAME:VBGEXm >> If that is done, each GRCB is given the name VBGEXm making them all >> different. This means that no program can have the name VBGEX(1=>6), >> a restriction that I assume can be lived with. >> >> I also remember that modifying TECO to be named VMUNG so that >> "VBGEXE VMUNG arguments" >> would work the same as >> "MUNG arguments" >> but use the full 64 KBytes allowed by VBGEXE. >> >> By the way, I assume that you are using E11 on a PC. Which hardware >> and how fast do you find that the code runs compared to any >> real PDP-11 >> hardware. Plus, I can't remember about the "BLINKENLIGHTS" - what >> did you do to have those available? >> >> Sincerely yours, >> >> Jerome Fine >> >> > >

23 years, 6 months

value of classic DEC machines?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

My understand of PDP-1s is that if there are 10 left it's a lot. the only two I know of was the BCM Machine and one up in Whitehorse {or was it Yellowknife} running Log/wood mill accounting system. Allison -----Original Message----- From: John Allain <allain(a)panix.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: Re: value of classic DEC machines? >>> Now a PDP-1 would certainly be worth 100KUS$, > >>..to a collector who had US$100K to throw away and >> absolutely HAS to have the first PDP-1... > >Worth, Costs, Is Valued at... all highly relativistic concepts >don't you think? > >What about history? My book says that only 50 PDP-1's >were produced. Almost certainly 50%++ were scrapped. >Anybody know where all the PDP-1's are? I'd like to see >one (or more). > >John A. > > >BTW, on thread. A good clean runnung PDP-11 with SW >and docs can fetch over $4K, to the original question. > >John A. > >

23 years, 6 months

electronics/computer surplus in Virginia?

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Does anyone know of any electronics / computer surplus and/or computer / electronics recycling companies in the greater Portsmouth - Norfolk - Virginia Beach - Suffolk - Chesapeake, Virginia area? Thanks, Brian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _| _| _| Brian Knittel / Quarterbyte Systems, Inc. _| _| _| Tel: 1-510-559-7930 Fax: 1-510-525-6889 _| _| _| Email: brian(a)quarterbyte.com _| _| _| http://www.quarterbyte.com

23 years, 6 months

Caddy for one DEC-RDD40 external cdrom unit

by CAA007216＠mail.ono.es

Hello. Do anyone has one Caddy for one DEC-RDD40 external cdrom unit ? Mine starts and is detected but need this item to work. Thanks Sergio Pedraja

23 years, 6 months

John Boffemmyer's SOL

by vance＠ikickass.org

It's a SOL-20. I just checked. (His SOL is in my storage locker.) Peace... Sridhar

23 years, 6 months

Ken Slusser

by aek＠spies.com

> > Dear Sir > > I have a 1000 sq. ft warehouse full of used DEC pdp and pre IBM p.c. > > equipment / manuals / spares etc. > > I need someone to help me get rid of all of it. I realize it has some > > value on Ebay but my lease has run out and I need to recover some of my > > costs ASAP. > > I am in California on the central coast. > > Any suggestions. -- I talked to Ken this afternoon. He needs 3-4K to cover the back rent on the storage and is looking for someone to take all this stuff and sell it on eBay for him. He thinks it's worth $100000 I may go down there on Friday to see what's there assuming he can find the item that he says he has that I'm looking for.

23 years, 6 months

QD21 ESDI

by matt＠knm.yi.org

Hi, I just got an Emulex QD21 (thanks iseldure! I've got $10 here for you for postage) and I've been playing with it, with some Maxtor XT-4380E drives. I'm managing alright to a point. I downloaded docs for the QD21, set dip switches and I can get into the controller's firmware. The problem arises when it comes to do things with the disks. If I tell the controller the disk is type 2, then it picks up settings from the drive fine (and they even co-relate with the drive), but any operations I perform on the drive after that (even "Show known devices") times out. I tried selecting the format option. If I set the drive as type 2 and let it pick up setting from the drive, it times out the operation before reading the media defect list. If I set the drive as type 1, and punch in the settings from the QD21 docs for the Maxtor XT-4380E, then it starts formatting, then after a couple of minutes of activity, the drive makes some noises (which I don't think sound healthy) then times out again. I only have one data cable, and if I just use the one drive (which appears to be terminated) then nothing appears to work - things just time out. If I hook up another drive and change drive IDs, then I can perform the format operation as defined above. Needless to say, I'm a little stumped. The controller is in an MV3300, but I've not got VMS working on there ATM, so I'm not sure about configuring an interupt vector for it. If it's any help to people, I can get listings from the console, it's just not particularly easy as I don't have a serial cable to hook the vax to my PC with me, only the vt420. I don't really know ESDI, and I'm not that familiar with QBus - only some details, ordering of cards, etc. Any thoughts welcome :&) --Matt

23 years, 6 months

MacOS DHCP Server?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

David A Woyciesjes was found to ask thusly: > > Does anyone know if there is a free/share/money-ware program that > can turn a Mac into a DHCP server? For use on an older 68k Mac... Yeah, sort-of, if you can find it. Vicom Technologies (www.vicomtech.com) has a product that's undergone a few name changes and feature orgies. Originally named "Vicom Internet Gateway", then "Vicom Soft Router", and maybe back to the original name... it's a software-based NAT router. It includes a built-in DHCP server. It wasn't expensive... it came bundled with Applshare IP 5.0, and when we finally purchased a cross-platform upgrade, that was either US$29 or US$79. At one time, you could download trial versions of the package. Additionally, if you hunt around, you'll find the magix needed to make the evaluation period last a very, very long time. ;-) hth, -doug q

23 years, 6 months

first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ...

by pjschilling＠gcstech.net

Gunther, Appreciate the info, get my end done and hope the electricians aren't too far off for moving the 220's to where I need them. Thanks again. Phil -----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Gunther Schadow Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:37 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ... Phil, I did convert to 220 single. I made my own reference along the way. Here goes: http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu/~schadow/VAX/power.txt regards, -Gunther Phil Schilling wrote: > > Gunther, > Slightly off your topic, but did you convert the power to 220 single phase > on your 6000? If so exactly which reference did you follow. I need to set > up both my 6000 and the drive array for single phase so I can get them fired > up. Thanks > > Phil Schilling > GCS Tech > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Gunther Schadow > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:02 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org; port-vax(a)netbsd.org > Subject: first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ... > > Hi, > > after my pretty good VAX treck last weekend (more details coming > up on my project web site at a later time) I finally have SDI disks. > I hooked one up last night and did all the checking as per the > RA9x manual (yes I have one plus many more, will scan those at > some time...) and it seems to be O.K. (even though it was pretty > messed up stored in a barn among lots of birds for many years). > > Here is one para about where I am at and then I have some > specific questions for Geoff Roberts or Ragge or anyone who > has had experienced any luck with getting a 6000 up to operation. > > I have bootable tape for Ultrix 4.1 and VMS 5.3 both TK50. None > of them work. I seem to have no luck with the TK70 and I have > no way finding out what's wrong. I tried to boot from that RA90 > disk, even though I don't know what's on it. It has unit #0, so > I thought it might be a system disk. But that too failed with > some I/O error very early in the process. I also have a TU81+ and > VMS bootable tape on 9-track, maybe that's more reliable? Tonight's > project is to move the TU81+ into the basement and hook it up. > I'm afraid I'll get stuck there too and what then? Network > booting? > > Here's some more detail and questions: > > The TK50 boot proceeds for quite a while, although it never shows > any message on the console about where it is at before it halts > due to some unspecified error. However, about one or two minutes > into the tape running the system-panel's FAULT light comes on and > at the same time both yellow and green LEDs on the TKB70 board > extinguish. That's for about a second or two. Then the lights > go back to normal and the fault light turned off. Another 30 > seconds to a minute tape streaming and the same light-spiel happens > again: fault on, TKB70 LEDs off, and back to normal. Now a shorter > time (like 10 seconds) of tape streaming and again. From now on that > repeats for about 4 or 5 more cycles and finally the system is > halted and console says: system halted due to previous error. > However, no error message is being printed. I have no idea where > I am in the process. > > I have tried cleaning the TK70 read/write head of course. I have > tried a different copy of that Ultrix tape. It's always the same. > > Is this bliking of fault and shutting off of both TBK70 LEDs > normal for media read errors or does it indicate something more > serious? How can I tell where in the process I am? Is there an > error flag somewhere in memory that I could EXAMINE to find out > what is wrong? > > BTW: at first I had my CIBCA cards in and the boot process would > halt earlier: system would say "insufficient memory for CI" and > "10% or more of the memory is bad". Who is checking memory there? > I could not find anything in Ultrix 4.2 sources that would generate > such a message. And why would it anyway, because my system check > tells me that I have 512 MB of memory OK. Or does it speak of > 10% of the CIBCA's internal memory? > > Is there a boot flag that I could turn on that would cause the > loader etc. to be more verbose? > > Has anyone tried booting Ultrix over the network? I am going to > try that but all I have is Ultrix on TK50 (that doesn't work) > and sources without any VAX running to compile them on. Is there > a cross compiler suite? I'd like to compile with the DEBUG > flag set. > > Thanks for your suggestions, > -Gunther > > -- > Gunther_Schadow-------------------------------http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu > Regenstrief Institute for Health Care > 1050 Wishard Blvd., Indianapolis IN 46202, Phone: (317) 630 7960 > schadow(a)aurora.rg.iupui.edu------------------#include <usual/disclaimer> -- Gunther_Schadow-------------------------------http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu Regenstrief Institute for Health Care 1050 Wishard Blvd., Indianapolis IN 46202, Phone: (317) 630 7960 schadow(a)aurora.rg.iupui.edu------------------#include <usual/disclaimer>

23 years, 6 months

MacOS DHCP Server?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Yeah, sort-of, if you can find it. > >Vicom Technologies (www.vicomtech.com) has a product that's >undergone a few name changes and feature orgies. Originally >named "Vicom Internet Gateway", then "Vicom Soft Router", and >maybe back to the original name... it's a software-based NAT >router. It includes a built-in DHCP server. > >It wasn't expensive... it came bundled with Applshare IP 5.0, >and when we finally purchased a cross-platform upgrade, that >was either US$29 or US$79. > >At one time, you could download trial versions of the package. >Additionally, if you hunt around, you'll find the magix needed >to make the evaluation period last a very, very long time. ;-) Although, lots of people use and love Vicom's SoftRouter (I think that is the name it is going by now)... I would like to point out that last I knew, it uses its own TCP/IP stack, and not Apple's OpenTransport. The Vicom stack has been known to provide incompatibility with some software that wants to use OpenTransport. I have also heard that Vicom's is more unstable in general (but I guess that might be dependant on what version of OpenTransport you compare it to, as early versions of OT were very unstable in their own right). This might have changed by now, but I would confirm it before buying. And then just to give a plug to Sustainable Softworks... their IPNetRouter product does everything Vicom's does (and more I believe), and is priced pretty much the same ($49 for 68k only, $79 for PPC and 68k). I don't have any connection with Sustainable Softworks, I am just a VERY VERY satisfied customer (I put them as the #1 best company I have ever had to deal with). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 6 months

kalpana

by freds＠monarch-info.com

I am looking for a Kalpana etherswitch, model EPS-700. Anyone know where to get this? Fred Scholl

23 years, 6 months

List Maintenance

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 23, 16:35, Iggy Drougge wrote: > Mike Ford skrev: > >Just for laughs I made a search just now of my email address > >mikeford(a)socal.rr.com, and I got 233 hits via the Google usenet group > >search. I really honestly only get maybe 5 bits of spam a day, and 80% of > >those I know I foolishly signed up for at some time recently. Have you > >spamphobs ever considered that maybe you get a lot of spam because you mung > >your email address, or that you don't have a profile in any spam databanks? > I did a Google Groups search as well, and got over 10 000 hits on my address. > Perhaps is one subjected to spam because one is an active netizen? Well, I just tried a Google Groups search, for comparison, and got 14 hits. I got 1020 from a straight Google (web) search, the majority from ClassicCmp (at least amongst the first few screenfuls). I don't especially like munged addresses either, but providing it's obvious (and obvious how to undo the obfuscation) I think it may be a necessary evil at times. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 6 months

first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ...

by pjschilling＠gcstech.net

Gunther, Slightly off your topic, but did you convert the power to 220 single phase on your 6000? If so exactly which reference did you follow. I need to set up both my 6000 and the drive array for single phase so I can get them fired up. Thanks Phil Schilling GCS Tech -----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Gunther Schadow Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:02 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org; port-vax(a)netbsd.org Subject: first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ... Hi, after my pretty good VAX treck last weekend (more details coming up on my project web site at a later time) I finally have SDI disks. I hooked one up last night and did all the checking as per the RA9x manual (yes I have one plus many more, will scan those at some time...) and it seems to be O.K. (even though it was pretty messed up stored in a barn among lots of birds for many years). Here is one para about where I am at and then I have some specific questions for Geoff Roberts or Ragge or anyone who has had experienced any luck with getting a 6000 up to operation. I have bootable tape for Ultrix 4.1 and VMS 5.3 both TK50. None of them work. I seem to have no luck with the TK70 and I have no way finding out what's wrong. I tried to boot from that RA90 disk, even though I don't know what's on it. It has unit #0, so I thought it might be a system disk. But that too failed with some I/O error very early in the process. I also have a TU81+ and VMS bootable tape on 9-track, maybe that's more reliable? Tonight's project is to move the TU81+ into the basement and hook it up. I'm afraid I'll get stuck there too and what then? Network booting? Here's some more detail and questions: The TK50 boot proceeds for quite a while, although it never shows any message on the console about where it is at before it halts due to some unspecified error. However, about one or two minutes into the tape running the system-panel's FAULT light comes on and at the same time both yellow and green LEDs on the TKB70 board extinguish. That's for about a second or two. Then the lights go back to normal and the fault light turned off. Another 30 seconds to a minute tape streaming and the same light-spiel happens again: fault on, TKB70 LEDs off, and back to normal. Now a shorter time (like 10 seconds) of tape streaming and again. From now on that repeats for about 4 or 5 more cycles and finally the system is halted and console says: system halted due to previous error. However, no error message is being printed. I have no idea where I am in the process. I have tried cleaning the TK70 read/write head of course. I have tried a different copy of that Ultrix tape. It's always the same. Is this bliking of fault and shutting off of both TBK70 LEDs normal for media read errors or does it indicate something more serious? How can I tell where in the process I am? Is there an error flag somewhere in memory that I could EXAMINE to find out what is wrong? BTW: at first I had my CIBCA cards in and the boot process would halt earlier: system would say "insufficient memory for CI" and "10% or more of the memory is bad". Who is checking memory there? I could not find anything in Ultrix 4.2 sources that would generate such a message. And why would it anyway, because my system check tells me that I have 512 MB of memory OK. Or does it speak of 10% of the CIBCA's internal memory? Is there a boot flag that I could turn on that would cause the loader etc. to be more verbose? Has anyone tried booting Ultrix over the network? I am going to try that but all I have is Ultrix on TK50 (that doesn't work) and sources without any VAX running to compile them on. Is there a cross compiler suite? I'd like to compile with the DEBUG flag set. Thanks for your suggestions, -Gunther -- Gunther_Schadow-------------------------------http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu Regenstrief Institute for Health Care 1050 Wishard Blvd., Indianapolis IN 46202, Phone: (317) 630 7960 schadow(a)aurora.rg.iupui.edu------------------#include <usual/disclaimer>

23 years, 6 months

value of classic DEC machines?

by spedraja＠ono.com

>> BTW, on thread. A good clean runnung PDP-11 with SW >> and docs can fetch over $4K, to the original question. I ever wanted to get one VAX/11 730 like one that we had in my old Computing Courses school and, related with it, a couple of PDP systems, compounding all of them a little network. My hope was that these machines some day could be only trash stuff and this could be the way to get one. In the actual day I only have one PDP-11/23 PLUS that works but only has 256 Kb. of memory, and a diverse stuff that can be connected to it but needs some more additional stuff like a rack support, some boards and cables. Almost everything I need mustbe purchased. A few months ago this appears to be cheap and quick, but not now. And some items destinated to enhance the machine appears very far and expensive, like one expansion memory of 4 megabytes, or one good SCSI board. Of course, I try to don't think anymore in obtain one VAX/11 in any way, or one PDP/11 70 or 44. Even one that I could obtain in UK was cancelled because any transport agency wanted to transport it to my country. And my city even have one regular ferry line with the UK every week !! (this was bad luck, I recognize). In this context, one cause or another can do that one machine like one PDP-11/70 grows in its value until incredible limits. In fact, I check the eBay bidders many times and I see a lot of auctions are bidded and even winned by people with very few (or 0) feedback. Computer collectors matures ? I don't think so. Greetings Sergio

23 years, 6 months

Caddy for one DEC-RDD40 external cdrom unit

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> SP [mailto:spedraja@ono.com] > I'm in Spain, Antonio, in the North (Santander). > > Thanks. Your option appears to be the better and less > expensive, if you permit to me the comment :-) > I'll pack one up and try and work out postage on Monday (I'm away from the office after today). I'll let you know how much it is then, if you're still keen and noone else finds one nearer to you. If you can supply a working email address (the one above just bounced ...) then I can talk to you without bothering the rest of the list :-) Antonio arcarlini(a)iee.org

23 years, 6 months

ISA cards for free...

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

>Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:13:58 -0700 >From: Geoff Reed <geoffr(a)zipcon.net> >Subject: Re: ISA cards for free... >At 09:21 AM 10/23/01 -0400, you wrote: >>Hello all, >> >>Cleanout time again... I have the following ISA cards available for cost of >>postage only. These cards were part of a lot I picked up just for the two >>Compaticard II cards that were in the pile :-). > >You lucky bastige :) Yup, but it's the law of affinity. I bought a nice Compaticard IV (thanks Don!), but have yet to get it working with my 8" drives (no tech problems, just too busy). Then I found a Compaticard II on eBay for a decent price, then I found these two in another lot from eBay. One of them is odd in the sense that it has a D-connector out the back (37 pin, I think), but no internal 34-pin header for a floppy cable. It doesn't look modified, so I think it came from the factory that way.... Weird. Also, EVERYONE wants the SCSI cards, so I'll be putting names in a hat... I'll wait a day and then draw straws :-) Rich B.

23 years, 6 months

Caddy for one DEC-RDD40 external cdrom unit

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Indeed, caddies for the RRD40 are not easy to find. At least over here in The Netherlands. I have a DECstation 3100 with Storage Expansion and RRD40, but I am also still looking for at least one caddy as I do not have any (yet). - Henk.

23 years, 6 months

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