the first card has two mmj ports one coax port and one 15-pin AUI port. Has the inscription DIGITAL 25793 50-21879-01. This is obviously a network card module or something. I am more concerned with what DEC/DIGITAL computer this is used for. It has a vme/nubus kind of connector that plugs it into the motherboard of the DEC
The second is a strange little card , that is obviously SUN Microsystems made. It has a SCSI port and a port that looks like a phone or 10BASET port with the inscription "TP" and a left/right arrow. This also has the following ID marks (5012981063784 -01 REV 50 LSI)
For those few of you that may own a Futuredata development
system (Tony?) I managed to track down the last engineer
employed by Genrad/Kontron/Futuredata in the US. His name
is Tom de Lellis and he can be reached at tdel(a)windriver.com
Tom has a LOT of software and *some* hardware that I placed
first dibs on...
Also, having just joined this list, it would appear to be
dominated by primarily big iron types instead of us IMSAI
and S100 junkies. Assuming there are a few out there and
you wish to correspond, here's what I have:
Two loaded IMSAI 8080's with both 8 inch and 5.25 drives.
An Odell CP/M 8085 multibus-based word processor
Morrow systems portable CP/M machine
Two Futuredata 2300 Z80 development machines
Trash 80 Model 1
Altair (front panel and bus, looking for boz and front cover)
Spare 8 inch Shugart drives
20 or 30 S100 boards of various types (mem, disk, cpu,IO)
Masccomp 5500, 68010 Unix box
I can burn 2708,2716,2732 EPROMs on a one-up basis if given
an intel HEX file and some word of encouragement.
Everything boots and I have extensive doc on everything.
Would like to obtain a working ASR33 teletype with a paper
tape punch. They guy who had the SOL + teletype drop in
his lap made me drool. (and I bet he meant 750KB drives).
FYI, I'm in Virginia about an hour west of DC, dodging the
Anthrax clouds....
Craig Landrum
CTO
Mindwrap, Inc.
home: clandrum(a)monumental.com
work: craigl(a)mindwrap.com
On October 27, Daniel A. Seagraves wrote:
> FB (I dunno)
FB means "Fine Business".
> VIA BURO (I dunno again)
Send a QSL card via a QSL bureau...a sort of clearinghouse and routing
organization for QSL cards.
-Dvae
--
Dave McGuire
Laurel, MD
I got a new toy today... The FCC granted me the callsign KC9ALV.
Now not only can I annoy my mom by leaving large computer parts around
the house, I can annoy her by coming over the phone lines and TV and such. ^_^
(I'm just kidding... All I have that I can use is an HT, I didn't pass the Morse
so the HF rig is a paperweight until December, which is the next time the test
runs around here. But once I get HF access, I may have to worry! ^_^ And I do
know enough about RFI to know how to stop it, I'm just making a joke about it.)
-------
I just received notification from Qwest that I am being moved to
MSN, so I will be falling off the internet for a while until I
get a new DSL provider hooked up.
If there is desire to reach me, my work email is:
clintw(a)colorado.cirrus.com
Y'all be good, and play nice together :)
Clint
You're quite right, the 5161 Personal Computer Expansion Unit; just threw one out last week, as a matter of fact...
mike
---------------Original Message--------------
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 23:01:52 +0200 (CEST)
From: Kees Stravers <kees.stravers(a)iae.nl>
Subject: Re: SLOT 8 (was: ISA cards for free..
At 09:29 26-10-01 -0700, you wrote:
>I have no idea why IBM did that. Perhaps intending it for some
>"special" card that would need it, such as a coprocessor?
AFAIK slot 8 in the XT was meant for a bus extender card.
There was available a box which looked just like a XT but only
had a psu and a passive motherboard inside. You put a bus ext
card in that box and in the XT, and you could add seven more
cards to the system.
Kees.
- --
kees.stravers(a)iae.nl - Geldrop, The Netherlands
http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/
From: Eric Dittman <dittman(a)dittman.net>
>I recently swapped the MV II CPU and memory in my BA23 with a
>PDP-11/73 CPU and memory. I booted RT-11 V5.4D and attempted
>to init the RD54, which failed:
>
>.init /segment:5 du0:
>DU0:/Initialize; Are you sure? Y
>?DUP-F-Directory output error DU0:
>The drive was working just fine as a ODS-2 volume. I don't have
>to low-level format, do I?
It it was working before all you need to do is INIT the disk to establish
an RT file system. The problem is RT11 doesnt like 160mb as it wants
not more than 32mb per logical or physical drive.
Me I keep a bunch of quantum D540s (31mb) for that use.
Allison
Hey all,
Well, after dealing with my postings of rather mundane questions about the
PowerStation 530 about a month ago, I disappeared. Now I'm back, and I've
got only one question - who wants it?
The thing is, as much fun as it would be to screw around with the thing, I
simply don't have the time to do so, and what's the point of depriving the
world of a classic computer just so that someday, I'll look at it, forget
about this email list, and toss it in the trash. To hell with that.
So, here goes: I know someone from this list already wanted the computer
>from me, but I lost his/her email. If you still want it, you get first
crack. Otherwise, anyone who's willing to drive over to Ann Arbor and pick
it up from my dorm is more than welcome. Or, if the case need be, and you're
close enough (say... 50 miles or so) and you want to pay me gas money, I'll
drop it off (it gets really boring here, I drive around aimlessly to keep
myself entertained, so going somewhere would be perhaps even more
interesting).
Oh, the computer is a working IBM Powerstation 530 without a monitor,
keyboard, etc... I have an adaptor cable to convert the three D-sub mini BNC
to regular BNC, and also perhaps 3 30 or so foot RGB BNC cables (probably
not useful at all, but if someone wants them, again, just let me know). I
don't know how much RAM, etc. I do have the key for it.
Thanks, sorry for the length.
Blair
I have a BA350 that has quit. According to the doc's I have a dead power supply.
It would be a BA350-KF 150 watt power supply.
Does anyone have any tips or tricks to these?
If not any idea for finding a replacement?
TIA
Carl
Hi,
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 Michael Nadeau wrote:
> Open Channel Software is making old NASA applications available for
> download. There is a fee involved for what's called the NASA Classics
> collection, and the goal is to encourage commercial development of the
> applications. The list is at http://www.openchannelsoftware.com/NASA_1.html.
> I have no connection with OCS or NASA, but just happened to come across a
> press release about the offer.
I'm not sure how their current license will encourage any develpment,
commercial or otherwise. I looked at the page for one program, for counting
lines of source code:
http://www.openchannelsoftware.com/projects/SLOCC/
Clicking the "Get SLOCC" link reveals cost of obtaining the source code to
this written-in-Microsoft-Access-BASIC program is $100.
According to the license, you can use, copy & modify the program only for non-
commercial, private, internal purposes. You can't distribute it to anyone
else. Very open source. How is that different from any other commercial
prodcut for which source code is/was available for a fee? (VMS?)
-- Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: John Allain <allain(a)panix.com>
To: One Without Reason <vance(a)ikickass.org>
> List me as one home-to-be for a working '11 system.
> Anybody know if an 11/70 can be fit into a single rack?
Yes but... You will be limited in options and cooling will likely require
no side
pannels or rear door.
Allison
>Earthlink & Covad offer a static IP DSL service using PPPoet that I
>should be able to make work under FreeBSD. 1.5MB down, 256? up, full
>time connection, static IP, $64.95 a month. Seems like a smoking
>deal to me... And QWest doesn't get a dime... And everyone I've
>talked to about earthlink is reasonablly happy...
I have been using SpeakEasy (www.speakeasy.net) for some time, and have
been very happy with them. I have a static IP and no PPPoe! (Of course, I
am also on iDSL). They offer a range of services, and a range of prices.
You can check them out if you want (I get nothing for refering you, so I
don't care either way, just figured I would give you another "good" DSL
provider to widen your options)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
> Does anyone have a VLB system that needs a VLB SCSI controllers?
> I have an Ultrastor 34F and an Adaptec 2842 free, just pay shipping.
> Otherwise, I'll just toss them.
That was fast. They've been claimed.
Thanks.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/
Does anyone know anything about an ATEX system?
A friend works for a local newspaper, and they use a system called ATEX
(that is the only name anyone seems to know it by) to submit stories to
press. It has a remote dial-in ability and I just wasted 3 hours tonight
trying to teach my friend's friend how to use a terminal program to
access the system (it would have been less time if my friend would have
shut up and stopped trying to help... he just couldn't grasp that Zterm
on the mac that he uses shares no common abilities with HyperTerm on
windows that his friend is using).
My point to this is, I realized after spending 3 hours on this, that in
the SAME 3 hours, I could have written a simple GUI application to speak
to the system and made life a million times easier. When I mentioned this
to him and his friend, they started to drool. It seems most of the
writers there use the remote ATEX dialup, and they ALL hate the command
line terminals. He said people there would love to get access to a nice
friendly program. That of course sang songs of Shareware into my head.
So my question is... what are the possible commands that ATEX can use? My
friend knows a handful of the basic common ones, which is a good starting
ground, but he doesn't use all the features. He also knows there are
features he uses from the terminals at work, that he can't use from home,
because there are custom keys for them (I am sure they are just F keys
that are mapped to certain commands, but that is above his head). He said
he will try to get info on the system, but having dealt with the paper's
IT staff before, I am sure he will hit a road block.
I am looking for any info that anyone might have on one of these systems.
I am SURE it is classic, as I know the same terminals are in use now as
were in use when I toured the paper's offices in the 3rd grade.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Hi all.
Some weeks ago there was a thread about blinkenlights and consoles.
It was mentioned that a simple piece of hardware (just a few
resistors two transistors and 16 LEDs) connected to the printer port
of a PC can be brought to life when you run Ersatz-11.
Well, it took some time for me to decide whether I should go 'public'
with a project I intend to embark on.
In short: a *_full_* console on a PC that runs Ersatz-11.
The reason to announce the project is to get feedback. Am I on the
right track. Have a look, on this page (part of my website) you can
find a small ZIP file that contains the draft document that descibes
it.
http://home.hetnet.nl/~tshaj/pdpsite/homebrew/startframe.html
Any comment is appreciated.
- Henk.
>Speaking of LocalTalk, does anyone have TOPS software for PCs?
I have two copies of it (TOPS for DOS v2.1). Unfortuantly, both are in
use (they go with my two LocalTalk cards), so I am not willing to get rid
of them. However, I don't know your (or the general list) stance on
abandonware, and if TOPS qualifies. If it does, and I won't get chastised
on this list for doing so, I would have no problems duplicating the
install disks, and running off a copy of the manual for you. Of course, I
can't sell it to you (outside of postage and material costs) because that
would be piracy no matter HOW you slice it (selling for profit a copy of
software while retaining the original, even if abandonware, is just not
right in my book).
I do know that TOPS is serialized, and checks itself on the network. You
need a different code for each copy. I don't think the software itself is
serialized, so you can install from the same disks, you just need to
register it with different codes or duplicates will disable each other.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
! > You know, if someone is going to be an excited collector,
! > they should be
! > an EDUCATED collector. ALL macs up thru the Plus and part
! > way thru the SE
! > were signed on the inside by the original design team.
!
! For that matter, my IIcis both have the signatures in the
! bottom of the case.
Where exactly in the bottom? I'll have to check mine...
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
--- (203) 432-0953
--- ICQ # - 905818
Hello all,
There was more demand for some of these than I would have guessed....
Thanks, however, to Sellam's Apple II Random Number Generator (heh --
couldn't resist), the "winners" have been chosen.
Unfortunately, I left the list at home, so I'll notify people later today,
when I go home for lunch.
Still no takers on the Async cards (Tony is correct about the two jumper
blocks), and still plenty of floppy controllers.
Also, Tony was spot on about the Everex card. The 6116 is in a socket that
can also accommodate a larger chip. I'd go with his guess that this is some
sort of QIC controller/formatter... It's still up for grabs....
Rich B.
"They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety deserve
neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin
Hi there.
Can somebody tell me a good place to obtain one H9672
or one H984 enclosures to put my PDP-11 23 PLUS enclosure
plus another BA11 for expansion purposes I have ?
I should like to know it because it's possible that I could obtain
one Shugart 8" disk and one or two SMD. I have too one
TS05 that I want to begin to hack, and I'd like to get all of them
together and working.
I have too three Shugart SA-800 8" floppy units that I must
clean and probe. I need one enclosure for two of these units,
that comes with power supply.
Thanks and Greetings
Sergio
Yes if this is in Europe :-)
Regards
Sergio
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Heinz Wolter <h.wolter(a)sympatico.ca>
Para: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Fecha: s?bado, 27 de octubre de 2001 6:47
Asunto: Re: value of classic DEC machines?
>> I have an 11/70 and it's a beautiful machine. I'd love to have another
to
>> play with.
>>
>> Peace... Sridhar
>
>For every dog, there is a flea...
>I'll send the scrap truck over to your huge warehouse next time;)
>I've already turned down 2 complete 11/70s due to size-
>you'll find most 11/70 configs too physically large for
>most home or basement collections (3 racks?). They're also
>hungry on the power side, so I don't run my Datasystem 570-
>a repackaged 11/70 in a vax780-like "wide bay" - even if it
>lives in a warehouse...
>
>At least two commercial DEC restorers I know basically scrap
>the 70's (since "no one wants them" - which I read "no one wants
>to pay for them" ) or are forced to remove them along with more
>interesting stuff as part of the deal (and scrap them later;)
>Should someone start an 11/70 orphanage for all those
>unwanted machines?
>
>Cheers,
>Heinz
>
>Does anyone know anything about an ATEX system?
Ok... ignore me. I over zealously posted this question to the list
because you people are just so damn smart.
If I had bothered to even LOOK for myself, I would have found ATEX.com,
which even has a press release mentioning how The Record (the paper my
friend works at) has been a user of theirs for over 25 years.
So I think I found at least a strong pointer in the right direction.
(Although, if anyone has a list of commands an ATEX system accepts, that
would also be helpful... however, it seems they have a number of
different systems available)
Sorry for wasting the bandwidth.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Looks great; good luck & congratulations. Just don't let Tony & the boys see that part about using 556's for baud rate & interrupt timers or THAT thread'll go on for another month...
*Almost* makes me want to put a PC behind the Burroughs B2000 console I've got gathering dust in my basement...
mike
----------------Original Message----------------
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:34:09 +0200
From: Gooijen H <GOOI(a)oce.nl>
Subject: blinkenlights for everybody (?)
Hi all.
Some weeks ago there was a thread about blinkenlights and consoles.
It was mentioned that a simple piece of hardware (just a few
resistors two transistors and 16 LEDs) connected to the printer port
of a PC can be brought to life when you run Ersatz-11.
Well, it took some time for me to decide whether I should go 'public'
with a project I intend to embark on.
In short: a *_full_* console on a PC that runs Ersatz-11.
The reason to announce the project is to get feedback. Am I on the
right track. Have a look, on this page (part of my website) you can
find a small ZIP file that contains the draft document that descibes
it.
http://home.hetnet.nl/~tshaj/pdpsite/homebrew/startframe.html
Any comment is appreciated.
- - Henk.
I'm still a little confused. Processor Technology Corp. (not Processor
Technologies - couldn't find a reference for them on the web) best known
machine was the Sol-20 - 8080 based in a blue metal cabinet, keyboard
built in, with walnut wood sides. They supposedly made a small number
of Sol-10's, and were planning on both an S-100 color board and a
revised Sol - a Sol-II? Not sure of the name. Could what you have be a
prototype? Their Helios drives were also packaged in a blue case and
the drives were mounted vertically. I have owned Morrow assembled
Discus 8" floppies, their first 5.25" hard drives (5, 10, 15 and 20 MB
IIRC), and have worked on a 14" Morrow hard drive. I don't recall a 10"
wide 7.50 MB drive. I do recall and had owned a 15 MB 5.25" drive from
Morrow - I suppose if it had a bad platter it could have been sold as a
7.5 MB drive. IIRC, their drives just had the standard Shugart or
Seagate black face plate and activity LED sticking out of a non-descript
chassis with power supply, and had ribbon cables to attach to the S-100
controller card.
Are we any closer to identifying this machine?
Bob Stek
Saver of Lost Sols
> Verified with a source, Sol50 from Processor Technologies.
Company was named Processor Technology, not Processor Technologies.
I join with others in failing to recall a SOL-50 in the line.
Possibly, a third-party reselling re-labeled it to distinguish
his value-added package from the standard SOL-PC, SOL-10, and SOL-20
which were what the firms actually sold. A Z-80 upgrade for the
SOL that I recently sold came with a new nameplate to rename the
machine 'ZOL' instead of 'SOL'; maybe we're looking at a similar
phenomenon.
Regards,
-doug q
Do you mean a SOL-20 by Processor Technology? Also, Morrow Designs
(Thinkertoys) made 8" SS DD and DS DD floppy drives - 512k to 1024k.
Or are you referring to something completely different?
