> >What's the fuss about adding SCSI . . . In my world I consider that a
> >necessity
>
> Then you haven't added it to PCs. =)
> PS/2s which are built with SCSI in mind seem to behave well, but adding
it to
> IDE motherboards seldom works out for me.
Hmm -- my personal experience is that, unless the machine is already
junked-up with a random assortment of TV and radio tuner cards, video
accelerators, SoundBlasters and DVD decoders, SCSI is easily added to a
motherboard with onboard IDE ports. I've personally built a few dozen of
them, using both IDE and PCI SCSI controllers.
What sorts of problems are you encountering?
Glen
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>Hi Chris. I don't think I said hello yet (I help run the list).
Hello.
>UNIX systems have a library of routines (collectively called "curses")
>for sending commands to an idealized terminal, and a database format
>(called "termcap", for "terminal capabilities") which contains entries
>for various terminal types. Each entry describes the characters to send
>to carry out the various commands on the actual terminal. And then there's
>terminfo (another database format, more flexible than termcap, but in-
>compatible).
Makes sense. Sorry, my *nix is limited. I used an old AT&T unix machine
many many years ago (running System V), but that was limited to "user"
knowledge. I knew how to turn it on, and start up the software I needed
to use. I have recently begun to play with linux, but havent had much
time to really sit down and learn it (althought that will probably
change, since I need to upgrade my web server, and Linux with Apache
seems like a good option)
>It would help you if you wanted to hook up your Wyse in place of another
>brand of terminal, but what you want (I guess) is for another terminal --
>or computer -- to act like your Wyse.
Correct. I need to connect something that the system will think is a Wyse
60.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>the keyboard repeats (a bit like local
>echo). If I press a key, I get two of the same character on the screen. One
>appears when the key is pressed, and the other when it is released.
I have seen this happen MANY MANY times with PC keyboards, so maybe my
findings apply. In every instance that I have found it, it is beacuse
someone spilled either soda or coffee into the keyboard, and the pads
were sticking. The key would register when pressed, and then when
released, the pad wouldn't pop up right away, instead it would "peel" up,
and cause a 2nd (or sometimes a 3rd if it was sticky enough) registration.
Opening the keyboard and washing with alcohol or contact cleaner has
always fixed it for me.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>>> Solve your SCSI problems with one word, Granite.
>>
>> What do you mean by this?
>
>http://www.scsipro.com/
>
>Granite Digital makes the best cables etc. If you use them most SCSI
>weirdness will never effect you.
ROFL... I was taking it to mean smash it with a big heavy rock. :-)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Bennett ---
Well if you can find the file, I (and I'm sure others) would like to
read it...
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! -----Original Message-----
! From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net]
! Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 5:04 AM
! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
! Subject: Re: Avoiding SCSI Problems
!
!
! > I have a data file on SCSI that I'll try to access
! >sometime soon that may help you avoid problems that
! >can arise when integrating SCSI. I had a link to it,
! >but so much time had passed, it didn't seem to be there
! >anymore, but I had also downloaded and saved it, just
! >not on this system and drive.
!
! Actually, I don't have many problems myself, outside of the
! occasional questionable cable since I've gotten them from many
! different sources over the years and some are of better quality than
! others. I was just stating one of the reasons people state for
! avoiding using SCSI. Some implementations, such as that on the Amiga
! 3000, are quirkier than others though.
!
! Jeff
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> On October 11, Iggy Drougge wrote:
> > It seems that WYSEs are notorious for being frail. There is WYSE emulation
> > software available, but at a cost.
>
> Interesting...I've had a few over the years, and have found them to
> be nearly indestructible. Guess I got lucky! :-)
Actually, my experience (with the steel-cabineted 100 and the plastic 50)
has been like yours... they're rock-solid terminals, built to take a lot
of punishment, which they tend to get in the places where they're used.
Regards,
-dq
> By the way -- how about DVD's via pneumatic tube?
> Now THAT is a high-bandwidth medium. I can sell you
> some pneumatic tube equipment too :)
The newer plastic stuff, or the cool-looking old brass
stuff? Up until about '87, there was a local metal scrap
firm that still used the tubes, all brass, *very* cool.
-dq
>Linux has a wyse60 termcap entry, but that's not really what you want.
Ok... I am feeling SOOO rank amature here. What is a termcap, and why
would I not want it? (I must admit, it is refreshing to be in a group of
people where I am probably the LEAST knowledgable)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
> Ok... pics are up (sorry, no risque terminal pics).
That's ok, my tastes run to hats, anyway...
> Go to <http://www.mythtech.net/terminal>
>
> There are two terms there. One is a Wyse something (maybe a
> 60 based on pics I just saw on ebay).
The Wyse does indeed look like a 60, but I think the 55 and 35
look similar. Had it been a 50 or a 100, it would have been a
more obvious identification.
Can you get it into Setup mode? There may be a clue there...
it's something like Function-Setup, at least, it is on the 50...
-dq
> >Post a digital pic on your webpage so we can look 'n' see?
>
> K.. but it will have to wait until tomorrow (I have to bring my camera in
> to work).
>
> Any particular shots you want? Front, Sides, Insides... posing in a
> nightie?
The Wyse 50 looks good in a fedora; the Wyse 100 prefers a beret...
-dq
We have an IBM 5110 with a serial adapter and have recently verified
that the tape drive is operational. We are, however, missing the
software cartridge for the serial adapter.
Does anyone have a copy who would be willing to make a copy? We can
supply a blank cartridge and pay shipping costs.
-- HBP
>It looks identical superficially to my WY60. Though yours is much whiter on
>the picture. Mine is grey, much the same kind of grey as Atari STs.
It is actually greyer than the picture makes it out to be. Not being
familiar with the Atari you mention I can't say if it compares, but I
would say it is a good shade darker than it looks. It is probably close
to the "platinum" window background color of MacOS 8 and 9 (if that is
something you are familiar with). It is also WELL used, and the
receptionist is was in front of cleaned it daily with rubbing alcohol and
lysol for about 10 years before I found out... I am sure that lightened
the color quiet a bit (although, it could have been worse, it took me a
while to track down why one booth's phone kept shorting out... till I
caught one of the interviewers pouring water on top of it to clean it
before they started their shift!).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
> I believe the daughter cards are RS422 adapter cards. We have an
>Executone phone system at work and it uses what appear to be standard Wyse
>terminals (just like the pic), however they are modified for 422 in order
>to handle the distances from the terminal to the switch.
Can I safely put the daughtercard into a stock Wyse 60 and get the same
functionality? What is the max distance for RS232? Are there any other
real differences? The Wyse was stationed only about 50 feet (cable wise,
crow flies about 8 feet thru a wall) from the KSU. Is that close enough
that a stock RS232 based Wyse can reach?
My Qume system is a different story, that is about 300 feet cable wise
>from the KSU.
(Although, it might be possible that the one in the Qume is fried, that
terminal "works" it just doesn't pick up anything over the serial port...
it stopped working when the phone pole in front of my building was struck
by lighting, and due to poor grounding on the part of the phone company,
half my phone system was fried, including the terminal... BUT... that
gives me the idea of pulling the daughtercard from a 2nd one of the
Qume's I have that has a bad powersupply... or was that a screen... humm,
if it is a screen, maybe I can just mix and match and get one working)
I would think the Executone terminal you have is fairly similar to the
Isoetec I have. Executone bought Isoetec many moons ago, because Isoetec
had better designs and systems. Most of the executone systems released
after the buyout have been based off Isoetec designs/ideas.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Ah, you forgot the other transport, IP over morse code(cw).
I believe RICM may have a copy of the document.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Iggy Drougge <optimus(a)canit.se>
To: Derek Peschel <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: ArcNet and the Pursuit of Multiple Topologies
>Derek Peschel skrev:
>
>>On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 11:29:12PM +0000, Pete Turnbull wrote:
>>>
>>> Nope. The RFC exists (RFC 1149) and there has been a practical
>>> implementation. See http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/
>
>>For a moment I wondered if the Web site was set up using the same
protocol
>>(as a proof of concept?) but luckily it's just a normal Web site. :)
>
>Well, there should be high latency, but the packet sizes should be quite
good.
>=)
>
>--
>En ligne avec Thor 2.6a.
>
>Goto: A programming tool that exists to allow structured programmers to
>complain about unstructured programmers.
>
>
On October 11, Iggy Drougge wrote:
> It seems that WYSEs are notorious for being frail. There is WYSE emulation
> software available, but at a cost.
Interesting...I've had a few over the years, and have found them to
be nearly indestructible. Guess I got lucky! :-)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Laurel, MD
> I think you'll have trouble if you use anything other than 63 ohm coax...
The cable is designated RG-62, but it's 93 ohm cable.
Cards could be connected to an active hub or a
passive hub. Passive hubs required 93-ohm terminators
on the unused ports. But with an active hub you're all set.
I have a couple of cables with BNC connectors, and I think
a few left-over crimp-on connectors that you're welcome to
have for the cost of shipping (or pick up in Berkeley, CA).
Write to me offline. I got rid of a heap of arcnet stuff
last year, alas. I think it's all at the Alameda County
Computer Resource Center :)
By the way -- how about DVD's via pneumatic tube?
Now THAT is a high-bandwidth medium. I can sell you
some pneumatic tube equipment too :)
Brian
On October 10, Mike Ford wrote:
> What about the system that was used in large scale lab stuff, I am thinking
> by Kinetic Systems and it linked instrument racks together that they called
> Crates. They were all over the big physics labs.
Hmm...CAMAC comes to mind? Memory fading...
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Laurel, MD
I recently picked up a box called a "ADA 1600 Pet Printer Interface".
It's a box slightly larger than a pack of cigarettes with two cables
attached to it. One cable has a Centronics type connector on it and the
other has a small circuit board with both a male and female 24 position
card edge connectors on it. Is anyone familar with it or does anyone know
which model PET it's for?
Joe
Hi,
I am looking for any information or resources relating to the UK based
Research Machines 380Z and 480Z products. These were Z80 based micros,
mainly used in UK schools during the mid-eighties.
I have a 480Z in my collection, but it isn't 100% operational and I really
need service information to enable me to track the faulty component.....Can
anybody help with any information about these machines, so far all I have
are a few collector/museum web sites..
Now I've asked my question, a little about myself. I am based in the UK and
am interested in collecting 8 and 16 bit microcomputers from the late 1970s
through to late 1980s. I have managed a reasonable collection of hardware
and software and am in the process of cleaning/restoring the hardware and
then preserving the software.
Regards
Simon Hardy
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> My primary moan is those serial ports on the QL. There are 2 of them, and
> only one receiving cirucit. The Rx data lines from the 2 ports are
> logically ORed together and fed to the receiver. You have to make sure
> you external device obeys the handshake lines (no matter how slowly it
> sends characters), something that some devices plain can't do. An
> 'unbuffered' modem (i.e. just about any 300 baud modem) is a device that
> has problems working with the QL.
>
> -tony
A truly bogus design. Any idea why they did it that way?
Glen
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In a message dated 10/10/2001 9:31:42 AM Central Daylight Time,
jhellige(a)earthlink.net writes:
<< Here's a Connectix press release from yesterday stating that
they are working on an OS/2 version of Virtual PC so that OS/2 users
could run both OS/2 and Windows on the same machine concurrently:
>>
Excellent! I'm glad to see that a real OS finally still gets recognition.
Networking OS/2 to windows platforms at www.nothingtodo.org/easyos2.htm
Time to send them a thankyou email...
Has anyone here obtained one of these kits currently listed on ebay
for $120.
Are the parts readily available or will they have to be purchased with
the kit?
Are there any other kits being made?
Collector of Vintage Computers (www.ncf.ca/~ba600)
