test-drb October 2001

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Looking for : IBM 5110 Serial IO adapter software`

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>> I am fairly sure it is vertical. I remember when it started to die, I did >> the Mac Plus analog board fix for it (whack it on the side), and that > >Err, the Mac+ fix I use here involves a TX15 torx driver and a soldering >iron. My Mac+ has a stable screen :-)... Yes, yes, that is the correct way to fix it (I have done many myself)... the "whack it" comment was a tongue in cheek remark, since at one point, that was actually an apple authorized temporary fix (until you got tired of it enough to bring it into a service shop and have the joint resoldered... since back in that day, you were supposed to open your own mac... although I ignored that starting with my 128k). At one point, I even found a tech note about doing it, although, they refered to it as "tapping forcefully". -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 7 months

Sigma Designs OneReel Tape

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> It actually got all its data over SCSI. I suppose its main application was the > very oldest compact Macs which didn't even have any PDS slot. The very oldest Macs didn't have SCSI ports... However, a company called Dove had a board that plugged into the ROM slots, and into which you then placed the ROMs, that provided a SCSI interface for the Mac 512k/512ke. They also had a memory board that had the way of interfacing to the main board... it had funny-looking sockets that "clamped" down on top of the existing DRAMs and which provided enough to bring a 128k Mac up to 512k or a 512k Mac up to 1MB. I still have both boards... -dq

23 years, 7 months

Philbrick?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

"In 1937-1938 George A. Philbrick developed what he called an "Automatic Control Analyzer." The analyzer was an electronic analog computer..." http://www.computer.org/annals/an1982/a2143abs.htm "Model K2-W computing opamp George A. Philbrick Researches This is a general purpose computing opamp. First introduced in 1952. " http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog/ -----Original Message----- From: John Allain [mailto:allain@panix.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 11:28 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Philbrick? While cleaning up some garage space (yes, so a Car could go in there) I came across a cache of some things I knew I had and one thing I forgot. A 2 tube module.from George A. Philbrick Researches Inc. It's a GAP/R K2-W with "computor" tubes in it. Before anybody vomits (as regards computor) could somebody remind me who Philbrick was? The name seems familliar. TIA John A.

23 years, 7 months

ArcNet and the Pursuit of Multiple Topologies

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> How come noone (not even I) has mentioned Apollo Tokenring? Or Prime's Ringnet ( a Cambridge ring )...? -dq

23 years, 7 months

ADA 1600 for Pet?

by mhstein＠usa.net

>Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:38:21 -0500 >From: Gary Hildebrand <ghldbrd(a)ccp.com> >Subject: Re: ADA 1600 for Pet? > >Joe wrote: >> >> I recently picked up a box called a "ADA 1600 Pet Printer Interface".ki >> It's a box slightly larger than a pack of cigarettes with two cables >> attached to it. One cable has a Centronics type connector on it and the >> other has a small circuit board with both a male and female 24 position >> card edge connectors on it. Is anyone familar with it or does anyone know >> which model PET it's for? >> >> Joe > >I think that's an IEEE (HP-IB) to centronics adapter box. I remember >the PETS were famous for that IEEE interface for both disk drives and >printers. The same philosophy continued into the VIC and C=64 lines, >but in a modified serial format. Typical Commodore, just enough >different to be a pain . . . . > >Gary Hildebrand > Tsk, tsk; I would have thought that the SCSI fans would have more appreciation for Commodore's IEEE488 GPIB implementation back in the 70's: less pain than some people on this list have had with SCSI, addressable daisy-chained peripherals, more expensive and less selection just like SCSI, and no problems with termination etc. :-). And they could (and indeed did) talk more or less directly to a lot of high-end lab equipment, especially HP's, although admittedly not quite at the 10Mbps rate of today... That is indeed what it is, Joe; if you actually want to use it, the DIP switch selects the unit address (usually 4 for a printer) and (if I remember correctly) the CR/LF and all-caps options. Still have a couple in fact, as well as a 1450 serial version; used one for many years to let my 8032 talk to my Centronics 101. mike

23 years, 7 months

AlphaServer 1000A & EISA Config

by bdwheele＠indiana.edu

It is slightly off topic, though I hadn't seen an eisa card for what seems like a decade :) In any case, I recently got a 2nd hand AlphaServer 1000A with no disks. I put an EISA SCSI card I dug up in the machine, but its wanting me to run the eisa configuration utility. After scouring the net, I found one that would come up, but only if I burned it onto a CD. Now its complaining that It can't find a configuration file for my system board. Grrr. I suppose I'm glad EISA is dead, but...it would be nice if I could get this silly SCSI card to work. Any thoughts/hints/suggestions? Brian Wheeler bdwheele(a)indiana.edu

23 years, 7 months

ArcNet and the Pursuit of Multiple Topologies

by optimus＠canit.se

George Currie skrev: >Any one ever use a network called KanNet (I think that's how it was spelled). > It was around in the mid 80's. The early ones I used actually utilized both >a host adapter and an external box (the network cabling attached via the >boxes). The boxes were large (say 12"x12"x3") and the topology was a ring >running on coax. How come noone (not even I) has mentioned Apollo Tokenring? [snipsnipsnipsnipsnipsnip] -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6a. "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive music." David McMinn

23 years, 7 months

Wang VS

by jdonogh1＠prodigy.net

Does anyone know where I might find a Stand Alone Utility (SAU) disk for a Wang VS5E? Or maybe some OS install disks, or a old hard disk from one? VS15 or VS25 would work also-same processor (CP5)

23 years, 7 months

2.88 MB floppy drive, scsi?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>There >are those that dislike fooling with the SCSI 'voodoo' though. Once you get the dance steps down, and realize that you have to sacrifice a lamb, not a chicken... the SCSI gods stop causing problems. :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 7 months

truck space potentially available

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Hey folks. It is likely that I will be driving an empty 24' truck to the DC area from the Tampa, Florida area within the next week. It has a lift gate. I would like to defray the cost of the truck somewhat...If anyone needs anything hauled along the 75N->10E->95N route, please contact me off-list. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Laurel, MD

23 years, 7 months

ArcNet and the Pursuit of Multiple Topologies

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On October 11, John Allain wrote: > > How come noone (not even I) has mentioned Apollo Tokenring? > > Maybe some of us have decided to get a life in the last month. > > > Banyan VINES? Isn't Vines a protocol, rather than a medium? What I mean is...can't you run Vines over ethernet/fddi/whatever? -Dave -- Dave McGuire Laurel, MD

23 years, 7 months

Looking for : IBM 5110 Serial IO adapter software`

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>_White_ line? All IBM5151 monitors that I've seen are green-screen (in >fact that's specified somewhere in the techref). Is this a genuine IBM >monitor? You know, it might be a bright green line. I haven't powered it up in years. The only reason I didn't pitch it is because it IS a genuine IBM monitor (the 5151), and I didn't want to seperate it from its PC... which I wanted to keep because it was the first "IBM PC". >Is the line vertical or horizontal. You imply the former, which is rare >(most horizontal deflection faults kill the EHT as well, leaving a dark >screen). If that is the case, there's only about 4 components that can be >at fault.... I am fairly sure it is vertical. I remember when it started to die, I did the Mac Plus analog board fix for it (whack it on the side), and that would bring it back for a bit. Finally it just stopped coming back, and stayed as a bright line. Humm... maybe in November I will pull it out and see if I can get it running. (I have too much work to do this month to get to the fun stuff). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 7 months

IDing WYSE terminal

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>If it is a Wyse 60, then I have the schematic in front of me.... > >First question : [snip] ROFL... halfway reading thru all that, I suddenly had flashbacks of the briefing from "Hardware Wars" (attack the flip flop over ride...huh?... ya pull the plug!) I will take a look at it tomorrow and see what some tests turn up. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 7 months

IDing WYSE terminal

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>If the daughtercard is indeed an RS422 interface, as someone >suggested, an ordinary RS232 or RS423 terminal will probably not work. Thanks to a link I found pointing to a reference page on wyse's web site, I have found out MUCH more info on this. Yes, the card is a RS422 card. Wyse even specifies that the ONLY company that it was made for was Isoetec, and they give the part number on it (and specify that replacements have to be bought thru isoetec). They do imply that it can be fitted on a standard wyse 60, but don't come right out and say that. > RS232 and 423 are single-ended interfaces, which means that each signal >consists of one wire plus a common ground connection. RS422 is a >differential system, where each signal has a positive and negative >connection. If your system is intended to connect to an RS422 terminal, >you'd need to do some hardware hacking to make it work. This suddenly makes all the sense in the world as to why my laptop can't connect to it. My laptop just has a standard RS232. I will probably have to try my Mac as it has an RS422 port on it. Otherwise, I am fairly sure I have a 422 serial card for a PC, I can always lug a whole PC to the site (it is at a different office, so hands on tests are hard to do... I make a list of things to try, and do them all in one visit) >Do you have any >information on the pinout of the interface? the Wyse link I came across has some info on it. IF I can track down the tech manual for the phone system, and IF it is like the manual I have to my 96 phone system, then it will have lots of tech info on pinouts... but so far I have been unsuccessful in finding a 66 techmanual :-( -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 7 months

[possibly OT]: Citizen 120D+ interface connector and Acorn System questions

by pjschilling＠gcstech.net

Philip, I have one shelved here it you want it for parts? Shipping only. Phil -----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Philip Pemberton Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 4:38 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: [possibly OT]: Citizen 120D+ interface connector and Acorn System questions Hi, I've just dug out my old Citizen 120D+ 80-column dot-matrix printer, reseated the connectors, etc. and I've managed to break a few of the pins off the interface connector on the printer. I've bodged in a few bits of wire to get it running, but it's a bit temperamental. Anyone know what sort of connector Citizen used on this thing? I'm not talking about the Centronics connector, I'm talking about the one that connects up to the interface board. It looks like a two-row DIN41612 and has 15 pins per row (30 total pins). There is some text on it in black ink, but I don't know if it's relevant. It (the connector) has a 0.1" (2.54mm) pitch both vertically and horizontally. Anyone got a service manual for this almost-ten-year-old monster of a printer? I'd hate to throw it away for the sake of a knackered connector... BTW, anyone got a schematic for the Acorn Teletext Video card for the Acorn System-series machines? Thanks. -- Phil. philpem(a)bigfoot.com http://www.philpem.f9.co.uk/

23 years, 7 months

Looking for : IBM 5110 Serial IO adapter software

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Also note that IBM PC used the same model number series. > >The 5110 and 5120 were both portables like the 5100, with added features. >We researched it before but I forgot what the 5130 is. The 5140 is the >IBM PC Convertible. And of course the 5150 is the PC, the 5160 is the XT, >the 5170 is the AT. Humm... I think I might have a 5150, 5160, and a 5170 around as well (actually, I KNOW I have a few 5170's left... but only two or three, the rest were dumpstered, or stripped for parts). I don't think my 5150 works, but it is an original "IBM PC" (I know the matching monochrome monitor for it is broken, just displays a bright white line down the middle). I would have to search and see if I have a 5160, or just XT clones (again, they might have all been dumpstered). Yup... sitting on the other side of my desk is a 5170, the case is open, and it is on its side, currently supporting the Wyse 60 terminal I was questioning (and making the 5170's video card bow pretty bad under the weight of the terminal). I know, some people might be cringing at my abuse of it... but the ATs are worthless to me (outside of the fact that you can stick a pentium baby AT logic board in it, and reuse the case and power supply... I think that is where most of my 5170's went) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 7 months

[possibly OT]: Citizen 120D+ interface connector and Acorn System questions

by philpem＠bigfoot.com

Hi, I've just dug out my old Citizen 120D+ 80-column dot-matrix printer, reseated the connectors, etc. and I've managed to break a few of the pins off the interface connector on the printer. I've bodged in a few bits of wire to get it running, but it's a bit temperamental. Anyone know what sort of connector Citizen used on this thing? I'm not talking about the Centronics connector, I'm talking about the one that connects up to the interface board. It looks like a two-row DIN41612 and has 15 pins per row (30 total pins). There is some text on it in black ink, but I don't know if it's relevant. It (the connector) has a 0.1" (2.54mm) pitch both vertically and horizontally. Anyone got a service manual for this almost-ten-year-old monster of a printer? I'd hate to throw it away for the sake of a knackered connector... BTW, anyone got a schematic for the Acorn Teletext Video card for the Acorn System-series machines? Thanks. -- Phil. philpem(a)bigfoot.com http://www.philpem.f9.co.uk/

23 years, 7 months

IDing WYSE terminal

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>The Wyse does indeed look like a 60, but I think the 55 and 35 >look similar. Had it been a 50 or a 100, it would have been a >more obvious identification. I have a wyse 50 (I know it is, cause the case says so). I have tried it in place of this dead one, and it didn't work. I don't know how different each model is from one another, but maybe since the 50 didn't work, I can rule out a 55? >Can you get it into Setup mode? There may be a clue there... >it's something like Function-Setup, at least, it is on the 50... The unit powers up and beeps like it should, but the screen doesn't charge, so I can't see anything in the setup. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 7 months

Research Machines Information

by Simon.Hardy＠hemel-hempstead.sema.slb.com

Tony, The machine powers up okay.....but the keyboard repeats (a bit like local echo). If I press a key, I get two of the same character on the screen. One appears when the key is pressed, and the other when it is released. Any ideas ? Rgds Simon -----Original Message----- From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] Sent: 11 October 2001 00:25 To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Research Machines Information > > Hi, > > I am looking for any information or resources relating to the UK based > Research Machines 380Z and 480Z products. These were Z80 based micros, > mainly used in UK schools during the mid-eighties. I have both machines, and documentation on them. Including schematics for the 380Z (CPU, memory, text video, hi-res video, floppy controller) and the 480Z (machine only, but including the option board). > > I have a 480Z in my collection, but it isn't 100% operational and I really > need service information to enable me to track the faulty component.....Can I don't have the service manual, but I do have the hardware manual. It includes schematics. Alas my manual was mis-assembled by RML, so some pages are missing and others repeated, but the scheamtics _are_ all there and readable. What is the fault? -tony ___________________________________________________________________________ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of SchlumbergerSema. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the SchlumbergerSema Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. ___________________________________________________________________________

23 years, 7 months

IDing WYSE terminal

by mythtech＠Mac.com

Thank you everyone for your help. It looks like from pictures I am able to find (or was sent links to) that it is indeed a Wyse 60. I think the tell tale part is the contrast slider on the front bottom right of the screen (and the matching ID plate on the left side). So now I am on the hunt for a cheap replacement (looks like ebay has them around $40), where I will open it, and see if the daughter card is installed, if not, I will transfer mine. I also have a lead on a wyse 60 emulator to keep on the back burner for when my replacement terminal dies too. Alas, I am still stuck on the Qume one, but at least I know what Qume it is, and that one isn't half as important to me, as I can interface with that phone system thru a programmers back door running an old copy of ProComm Plus, so if the terminal never gets replaced, the receptionist just has nothing cool to look at during the day. And the #1 thing I learned from all this... when taking digital pictures, don't put your $2000 DV Camcorder down on something without verifying that it is stable and won't tip over (I caught the camera mid fall thankfully... now I am out looking for the cheapest, crappy digital camera I can find, so I can return my good camcorder to its bag and use it only when shooting movies like it was intended) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 7 months

IDing WYSE terminal

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Post a digital pic on your webpage so we can look 'n' see? Ok... pics are up (sorry, no risque terminal pics). Go to <http://www.mythtech.net/terminal> There are two terms there. One is a Wyse something (maybe a 60 based on pics I just saw on ebay). The other is a Qume, that I am fairly certain is a Qume QVT-108 (seeing as that is silk screened on the main board). Both have some kind of a daughter card. Are the cards normal or are they some custom programmable thing to give the terminal special abilities for its used application. The Wyse terminal is from an Isoetec EZ-1/66 phone system. The Qume is >from an Isoetec EZ-1/96 system. If people can ID these, are there any recommendations as to where to get these terminals CHEAP (I saw some Wyse 60's on ebay for about $40, but I can't find any Qume QVT-108s). If terminals aren't available, does anyone have a recommendation of emulation software I can run. Thanks muchly -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 7 months

IDing WYSE terminal

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 11, 10:41, Chris wrote: > >The Wyse does indeed look like a 60, but I think the 55 and 35 > >look similar. Had it been a 50 or a 100, it would have been a > >more obvious identification. > > I have a wyse 50 (I know it is, cause the case says so). I have tried it > in place of this dead one, and it didn't work. I don't know how different > each model is from one another, but maybe since the 50 didn't work, I can > rule out a 55? Probably not. If the daughtercard is indeed an RS422 interface, as someone suggested, an ordinary RS232 or RS423 terminal will probably not work. RS232 and 423 are single-ended interfaces, which means that each signal consists of one wire plus a common ground connection. RS422 is a differential system, where each signal has a positive and negative connection. If your system is intended to connect to an RS422 terminal, you'd need to do some hardware hacking to make it work. Do you have any information on the pinout of the interface? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 7 months

2.88 MB floppy drive, scsi?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 10, 8:00, Russ Blakeman wrote: > It may be that they are hooked to a SCSI controller, many have floppy > controllers on the SCSI board. Only ones I've ever heard of, including the > PS/2 drives, are MFM like any other. > -> On Wednesday, October 10, 2001 4:46 AM, Mike Ford > -> [SMTP:mikeford@socal.rr.com] > -> wrote: > -> > I've been looking for some 2.88 non-IBM PS/2 floppy drives, and I found > -> > some, but the guy says they are SCSI. Is that nuts or what? > -> > > -> > TEAC FD-235 J 5670-U W/SCSI Card > -> > TEAC FD-235 J 5670-U W/SCSI Card > -> > TEAC FD-235 J 610 W/SCSI Card Teac made SCSI floppies which were used by SGI and others; one of my Indigos has one, and a couple of friends have them too. The floppy is a more-or-less standard FD-235, except that most have a motorised eject. The SCSI card is an add-on, albeit a very compact one. If you don't want the SCSI cards, I can use them :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 7 months

Research Machines Information

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> HARDY, Simon wrote: > >Desperately seeking any 480z or 380z manuals or >other information, online, >original or photocopy. I have the 380Z manuals and I can (and will!) scan them at some stage - although I have a couple of weeks worth of stuff in the queue right now. Having said that, I'm not sure how much help the 380Z manuals will be if you have a 480Z. (I'm not saying they won't be useful ... just that the 380Z and 480Z look quite different to me!) Antonio

23 years, 7 months

Avoiding SCSI Problems

by dec.parts＠verizon.net

Jeff, I have a data file on SCSI that I'll try to access sometime soon that may help you avoid problems that can arise when integrating SCSI. I had a link to it, but so much time had passed, it didn't seem to be there anymore, but I had also downloaded and saved it, just not on this system and drive. Sincerely, Bennett > I agree, as any machine I spend any kind of time with > generally has it or has it added, whether Mac, PC, Amiga or whatever. > Even my laptop and PS/2 portable have SCSI adapters installed. There > are those that dislike fooling with the SCSI 'voodoo' though. It can > be a pain at times. > Jeff

23 years, 7 months

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